Space In Colocation Facilities
Apr 26, 2007
Perhaps some of you who run colocation facilities could help me with the following questions
1) How many of your customers running applications on upwards of 30 servers use regular clunky server towers as opposed to nice 1U servers?
I ask because from a cost standpoint it's important to consider deploying an application on commodity hardware as opposed to expensive blades or other tiny servers. But I'm wondering if for large and growing applications that use upwards of 30 servers in total the savings in hardware purchase would be offset by the colocation facility space required by regular server towers or other large servers?
2) Also, in a rack configuration I know how the servers would be laid out. But with regular server towers, how would these be laid out within the cage? Can they be stacked, or would that not be viable because they're a lot heavier, and each server probably needs room to breathe due to heat generation.
3) What's the industry-standard pricing model for colocation? Is it based on a number of square feet, a number of cages, a number of rack units, or something else? How does this play in to the use of regular server towers?
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Jul 24, 2007
Check out the following two colocation facilities' most basic plans and let me know what you think? Are they offering a reasonable set of services and resources for the price?
I ask because many of you are located in larger American centers as opposed to smaller Canadian ones - you therefore enjoy the benefits of competitive pricing and services, while in most cities in Canada that isn't the case. I just want to make sure that their packages are on par with industry - as I'm new to the industry, your comments are appreciated.
(Keep in mind the prices are in Canadian dollars, which is almost equal to the US dollar.)
Silver Package:
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Colocation 1:
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The first link above only offers 10 GB of monthly traffic. Would you say this is reasonable?
Also, is their definition of "escorted access" the same as the rest of the industry, whereby they unplug the server, put it on a table, and watch while you do whatever you have to? I realize that unescorted access isn't possible if you don't have a significant portion of the rack to yourself, but I'm surprised that you're required to unplug your server, because this leads to guaranteed downtime.
With some packages that offer 10 Mbps, does this mean that buying switches and server NICs that are Gigabit Ethernet or even 100 Mbps are pointless? You could just buy 10 Mbps?
What other comments could you add, in terms of questions I haven't asked in this post? And are there any other things I should ask of these facilities while shopping around?
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Ok, maybe 2 GB of CENTOS + cpanel + WHM+ MySQL + Files config = 2 GB
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/dev/twed0s1h 86G 67G 12G 85% /home
/dev/twed0s1d 248M 21M 207M 9% /tmp
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/usr/tmpDSK 243M 4.1M 226M 2% /tmp
/tmp 243M 4.1M 226M 2% /var/tmp
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I have a partition /dev/sda2 which is mounted to /webroot.
Today, I find that I can't upload any files via IPB (running on lighttpd)
So, as usual, I went on SSH and tried df in order to see how much space is left on the server:
Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on
<deleted>
/dev/sda2 20641788 19483292 109856 100% /webroot
Since lighttpd is running inside chroot, I thought it was the log files but even after I deleted them, it is still at 100% usage.
After spending some time, I couldn't find any large files so I did du -hs to see which folder is using large amount of space.
web1:/webroot# du -hs /webroot
2.2G /webroot
I'm without a clue on this as what du -hs is telling me and df is different but it seems like the partition is really full.
Any ideas?
Here is the output of tune2fs for reference:
web1:/webroot/var/run/lighttpd# tune2fs -l /dev/sda2
tune2fs 1.40-WIP (14-Nov-2006)
Filesystem volume name: /webroot
Last mounted on: <not available>
Filesystem UUID: 62625b28-9ad6-4258-8acc-0bfa0e7b5f48
Filesystem magic number: 0xEF53
Filesystem revision #: 1 (dynamic)
Filesystem features: has_journal filetype needs_recovery sparse_super large _file
Default mount options: (none)
Filesystem state: clean
Errors behavior: Continue
Filesystem OS type: Linux
Inode count: 2626560
Block count: 5242880
Reserved block count: 262160
Free blocks: 5123494
Free inodes: 2626465
First block: 0
Block size: 4096
Fragment size: 4096
Blocks per group: 32768
Fragments per group: 32768
Inodes per group: 16416
Inode blocks per group: 513
Filesystem created: Fri Jun 27 13:34:27 2008
Last mount time: Sun Jun 29 01:11:27 2008
Last write time: Sun Jun 29 01:11:27 2008
Mount count: 7
Maximum mount count: 36
Last checked: Fri Jun 27 13:34:27 2008
Check interval: 15552000 (6 months)
Next check after: Wed Dec 24 12:34:27 2008
Reserved blocks uid: 0 (user root)
Reserved blocks gid: 0 (group root)
First inode: 11
Inode size: 128
Journal inode: 8
First orphan inode: 820811
Default directory hash: tea
Directory Hash Seed: de38e2ce-4ee2-4ecd-a562-16ecb5982500
Journal backup: inode blocks
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/dev/sda2 /webroot ext3 defaults 1 2
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A year ago I was here wanting to trade my class C for a dedicated server. I realize now that it would be pretty difficult for providers to do this, because if I wanted to yank my class c they'd have to renumber. But if anyone is still interested, let me know.
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Quote:
Number of processes running now: 0
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