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Jul 24, 2007

Check out the following two colocation facilities' most basic plans and let me know what you think? Are they offering a reasonable set of services and resources for the price?

I ask because many of you are located in larger American centers as opposed to smaller Canadian ones - you therefore enjoy the benefits of competitive pricing and services, while in most cities in Canada that isn't the case. I just want to make sure that their packages are on par with industry - as I'm new to the industry, your comments are appreciated.

(Keep in mind the prices are in Canadian dollars, which is almost equal to the US dollar.)

Silver Package:
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Colocation 1:
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The first link above only offers 10 GB of monthly traffic. Would you say this is reasonable?

Also, is their definition of "escorted access" the same as the rest of the industry, whereby they unplug the server, put it on a table, and watch while you do whatever you have to? I realize that unescorted access isn't possible if you don't have a significant portion of the rack to yourself, but I'm surprised that you're required to unplug your server, because this leads to guaranteed downtime.

With some packages that offer 10 Mbps, does this mean that buying switches and server NICs that are Gigabit Ethernet or even 100 Mbps are pointless? You could just buy 10 Mbps?

What other comments could you add, in terms of questions I haven't asked in this post? And are there any other things I should ask of these facilities while shopping around?

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