Performance Degradation After Installing Fiber Optic Lines In The Office

Feb 16, 2009

Here is the screen shot of the "mtr" running from two servers:

Server1: Fibre optic line from Tata Communication

Server2: DSL line from Tata Communications

Source servers are located in Kolkata India

Target server is located in Fremont California.

The fiber optic cable has:

A. Higher ping time and

B. Higher standard deviation

compared to the DSl line.

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Tracing route to burst.net [66.96.192.201]
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1 53 ms 98 ms 98 ms api.home [192.168.1.254]
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3 35 ms 35 ms 36 ms 217.47.41.161
4 36 ms 35 ms 35 ms 217.41.175.13
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12 37 ms 37 ms 37 ms t2c2-p3-2.uk-lon1.eu.bt.net [166.49.164.138]
13 39 ms 37 ms 37 ms t2a1-ge7-0-0.uk-lon1.eu.bt.net [166.49.135.110]

14 39 ms 37 ms 37 ms 195.66.224.130
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16 110 ms 111 ms 111 ms p1-0-0d0.rar1.nyc-ny.us.xo.net [65.106.0.118]
17 118 ms 119 ms 117 ms 207.88.14.85.ptr.us.xo.net [207.88.14.85]
18 257 ms 209 ms 206 ms 207.88.14.86.ptr.us.xo.net [207.88.14.86]
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Trace complete.

C:UsersMe>ping 66.96.192.201

Pinging 66.96.192.201 with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 66.96.192.201: bytes=32 time=121ms TTL=48
Reply from 66.96.192.201: bytes=32 time=122ms TTL=48
Reply from 66.96.192.201: bytes=32 time=122ms TTL=48
Reply from 66.96.192.201: bytes=32 time=120ms TTL=48

Ping statistics for 66.96.192.201:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
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Minimum = 120ms, Maximum = 122ms, Average = 121ms

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