Just Getting Started With Colo
Aug 23, 2007
I have a friend running a Sun v40z server with VMWare, and I am currently renting a virtual "box" from him. I'm just getting my feet wet with this, so I told him to start me out really low and let me work up as I see the need.
He has started me with a 512kbps 95th percentile plan. I am planning on hosting a few smaller sites in my area that would probably at most use a gig of bandwidth or so per month. I've tried doing the math etc, but I am finding it hard to find a general number of sites like this that I could run without overages. I realize I can spike over my 512 for 36 hours or less per month without overages, I would just like an idea of how many sites like I described it would take to do so. ^_^;
So I figured I would ask the folks with experience in this area, before I go out and sell a bunch of accounts I can't handle without some intense overages.
I am using DirectAdmin on this server also, if that's of any relevance.
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Apr 16, 2008
I am about to purchase a vbulletin license in a few days and start a site. I will start the forums first and get the talking going and build the main site afterwards. Of course the site will suck at first as far as visitors. But what is a good hosting plan to support me for a good little while? I project we'll get up to 150 active users at a time within the first 6 or 7 months with about 50 browsing the main site....(nothing wrong with wishful thinking )
So, what hosting plan is best to hold me for a while? Not which company, but what specs of the plan are best to hold 100 active users at a time? I dont want to continue to upgrade my hosting plan alot. I'd rather just buy a nice shared hosting plan now to hold me for at least a year or so....until I have to upgrade.
For those who have dedicated servers, at one point is it time to upgrade to a dedicated server?
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Aug 30, 2013
I was trying to set up a JBoss cluster with apache httpd mod cluster in windows.I was able to start the apache using the command 'httpd. exe'. But when I tried to access it using localhost:6666/mod_cluster_manager , the page was not accessible.I have the entry 127.0.0.1 localhost in my hosts file.
The http.conf contains lines as given below:
# MOD_CLUSTER_ADDS
# Adjust to you hostname and subnet.
<IfModule manager_module>
Listen 127.0.0.1:6666
ManagerBalancerName mycluster
<VirtualHost 127.0.0.1:6666>
[code]....
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Jul 9, 2008
to decrease the load in server when daily backup start ,, the load in server before backup start from 0.80 to 1.20 after daily backup started i see very high load from 16.00 to 32 and 40
any solve for decrease load when backup start from 3 to 7 alot
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Jan 6, 2007
MySQL didn't work well on my server so I had a look at the err file. It indicates that MySQL is getting started and stopped all the time. After it has started it will stop and then start again etc:
070106 14:40:25 InnoDB: Started; log sequence number 5 959534492
/usr/sbin/mysqld: ready for connections.
Version: '4.1.21-standard' socket: '/var/lib/mysql/mysql.sock' port: 3306 MySQL Communi$
A mysqld process already exists at Sat Jan 6 14:40:28 CST 2007
070106 14:40:38 [Note] /usr/sbin/mysqld: Normal shutdown
070106 14:40:38 [ERROR] /usr/sbin/mysqld: Sort aborted
070106 14:40:40 InnoDB: Starting shutdown...
070106 14:40:41 InnoDB: Shutdown completed; log sequence number 5 959534492
070106 14:40:41 [Note] /usr/sbin/mysqld: Shutdown complete
070106 14:40:42 mysqld ended
070106 14:40:42 mysqld started
070106 14:40:42 InnoDB: Started; log sequence number 5 959534492
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Oct 20, 2009
I have 4 VMs running on a VMWare ESXi 4.0 server and it was running fine until yesterday when suddenly the network started consuming up to 100 mbps and making everything slow.
I have checked through vSphere and I dont see any VM consuming that much, it only show that the host is using that much.
I am attaching the picture from vSphere.
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Jun 12, 2009
I've been with JaguarPC for over a year. I hosted two sites, one on VPS, another on semi-dedicated. I had to give up VPS after a couple of months when it turned out it was impossible to upgrade my operation system despite several attempts.
Today I'm canceling the second site on semi-dedicated server even though at first it was good (and cheap compared others). Unfortunately, over time the server was getting less and less reliable, there were frequent outages and connection problems. It seemed I was usually the first one to spot the problem and I opened a ticket; one of them had a dozen or so replies as I would post almost every day that the site was down or slow. So I had to leave this semi-dedicated too.
JaguarPC positives:
despite server performance issues, they have fast and friendly support; I liked to work with these guys and they showed patience. They even offered me free upgrade on VPS to a better operational system, but I chose to move on to try other waters
they were flexible enough to install software I needed without problems
JaguarPC negatives:
server problems, probably some overselling and/or not enough attention to the bad guys with buggy or heavy websites
Now I moved to GlowHost.com and pay over two times as much for a semi-dedicated server. Here are my first impressions:
server seems OK so far,
support - they are also fast (probably even faster than JPC), even though they seem not to be as flexible as JaguarPC regarding installation of common software. For example, I asked them to install zlib to use gzip compression, but they said they know better and gzip compression is not something that would benefit my site and I would have to move to a dedicated server to have it installed (?). I was a little surprised since even some regular shared hosts have zlib library installed and I would think a semi-dedicated server (with no more than 30 domains on the server as it's possible to host only one domain and considering the price) should be treated as something more than just a shared server and users who choose semi-dedicated server actually do it to improve performance over shared server.
Either way, I'll see how it goes later; as long as the server is stable and fast I guess I shouldn't complain.
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Apr 4, 2015
I've had a server running for a year or so and all of the sudden the server error log started outputting a very strange message that i've never seen before:
Code:
'groups' is not recognized as an internal or external command, operable program or batch file.
From what I understand this means apache is trying to run a program that doesn't exist, what could be triggering this?
Running Apache/2.4.9 on win2008.
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Dec 16, 2007
Please give me the difference. Colo in carrier hotel, we can choose our preferred network provider, but should we do that if we cannot have our own tech in datacenter? How about the supporting service from carrier hotel? Just general question, cause I dont address exactly which facility.
And the second would be more expensive? Saying the same number of rack, amount of bandwidth... Who is providing IP addresses then?
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Jul 10, 2015
After setting up a new server on Plesk12, I successfully ran some test mail outs using phpmailer using the SMTP server on this machine
However, there was an issue in creating new local mail accounts in plesk with an error message each time.
Investigating this issue led me to a solution that I should run mail_restore from the Plesk scripts
This cured the problem of setting up new local accounts but outgoing SMTP mail is always failing with 'relay access denied'.
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Nov 28, 2008
Virpus = Ticket 11 days old, started working on issue 6 days ago, no word for 4 days!
Thats Virpuss customer service and its plain silly.
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Sep 1, 2007
I trying:
Code:
[root@serwer /]# httpd restart
/usr/sbin/httpd restart: httpd not running, trying to start
/usr/sbin/httpd restart: httpd could not be started
Code:
[root@serwer /]# /etc/rc.d/init.d/httpd configtest
Syntax OK
Help
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Mar 29, 2008
I've been out of the game for a while and now looking at colo prices each server is only allocated 0.5a on most plans.
I was looking at purchasing a 1u HP DL160 dual quad core system with at least dual sata raided drives
My question is what kind of amps would a system like this pull? and how much do data centers typically charge for that additional power if it needed over the .5
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Mar 11, 2008
if anyone knew hosts (other then FDC in USA) that offers 1U-4U/midtower colocation with 100Mbit or greater uplink, with atleast 2TB of transfer. With IRC allowed.
My budget is ~$100, I'm fairly sure it can be done as I saw FDC had one for $79, and it would be fine though I was hoping if anyone knew any others.
Also, Giga-International has what I need, are they reliable?
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Dec 10, 2007
Anyone here have much experience in a facility with 48VDC (like a telco facility). Is it more trouble than it's worth?
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Jul 20, 2008
colo of a 1u server that would need 500gig per month of b/w and I perferably would like to find a DC in NY/northern NJ or southern CT although in my search I seem to be getting price quotes of $100+ per month which I think is insane when I see dedicateds with more b/w for the same amount or even less.
I know most will say just get a dedicated server somewhere but my requirments are that I need a server with a lot of ram and at least a dual cpu and dedicate's with a dual cpu and 2gigs or more of ram seem to be much more thenmy budget.
So any suggestions for a $60 or less per month colo space with 500gig of b/w or a dedicated server provider offering a server in that price range with dual cpu and 2gig ddr ram and 80gig hdd?
By the way I looked at ezzi.net which has a $49 deal on a dedicated server but no option to have one with a dual cpu:
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Jan 3, 2007
I have had experience with reselling hosting using HostGator seller. My job was basically to run my site and get customers, set up price plans etc on WHM. I sold that company a while back. I am ready to have another shot at hosting, but this time I want to use my own servers...
I have found a great site, which has customisations etc. on servers (http://www.cybertronpc.com), but they don't ship to UK. (If I'm using colo is US, could I get it shipped straight to them?)
My main question is, is colo needed? If I am going to setup this company the Data-Center is not going to be local, either London or in US. So there is no chance of me going down unless it is to pick up my server . So I think I'm going to need a maintaned service I think. The server will be used for clients data (shared hosting). So what services will I need in terms of security and stability? What am I looking for in a colo service? What about back-ups of data on the server? Is that my responsibility or can it be bought as a service? Ok... now I'm guessing that I'm going to need colo...
What are common problems etc. with servers? Am I going to need virtual IP connection for maintainance... Is it best I pay for this or a service operator? Any recommendations on where to have the colo (i'm based in UK) and why? What can I do when it is time for me to request my server back from UK?
When changing colo services is there any way of avoiding down-time?
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Jul 16, 2007
I have noticed that many web hosts offer intel celeron machines @ $55 per month...they do not own the datacenters but colocate the servers,
We are also thinking of buying 2-3 such machines @ $450 each and then coloing them in the USA
I think about 800gigs-1tb would be the bandwidth requirements per server..
we aren't interested in RACKS...we just want to colo 2-3 machines to see how fast they sell, and then maybe we might order about 10-15 servers..
who do you think can offer us a decent deal for less than $40-50 per month...all
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Oct 31, 2007
currently I have managed several dedicated servers. I plan to colo it with 1 rack at a datacentre. So, before I buy hardware or software, I need some helpful info/guide.
- I need my server can be monitored, reboot remotely. What kind of hardware is require and please suggest some models.
- Which software is suitable for billing, monitoring. Please suggest any software come with good API since I plan to develop own small control panel later.
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Jan 28, 2007
anyone knows any good colocations in orlando, FL? I need 2 mb and 300 gb for 49.99 per month.
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Mar 13, 2007
What is the best indication for a web hosting company to move from dedicated server to colocation?
I have several low end dedis and im thinking of buying an enterprise class server with lots of diskspace (raid 5, dual power, ecc, etc.), have it colocated and move all the accounts to that server. I would be saving in the long run but kinda turned-off due to all eggs in one (enterprise-class) basket dilema. I woud be saving on server management cost too because I'm signing up one machine only instead of several.
Is going colocation a natural progression of the web hosting business cycle? We start off with a Reseller Account in the beginning - then grow and lease a Dedicated Server. And then grow and lease another and another..... Is colocation the next big step?
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Jul 25, 2007
I'm considering going with CalPop for one of my colo sites. I've read the user reviews and apart from those who were chaffed because of scratched servers and reboots they seem decent enough. My take on sticking anything in a datacenter is to stick it in yourself and rent the entire rack. That should take care of 90% of the negative reviews I have read, so my question is does any one have any real review of their services? Bandwidth performance, etc?
Secondly, I need a second colo for a redundant server. I'd like to find something closer on the East coast that offers the same pricing structure and services.
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May 1, 2007
Anyone know what firewall do I need for my colo? I want to protect external IP. Here is my setup
3 servers, all have two nic cards, one of the cards will be the external IP and the other one will be LAN IP. So my question is what hardware firewall do I need to protect the External IP?
I was thinking of a cisco pix 515e. Which only route external IP to the LAN IP. I need something where I don't have to route, It just protect the external IP.
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Oct 18, 2009
I need 1U of space, .5 amp (50 watts) power, one IP, 2.5mbps bidirectional bandwidth (total of 5mbps up + down) and about 10GB of traffic per day each direction (total of 20GB up + down). Would be nice if they have remote KVM along with console (serial) access. Location should be anywhere in USA.
Purpose is to host a VPN router for various remote locations to connect in to. Reliability and good connection (low latency) is important.
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May 2, 2008
I've been a colo since the beginning of time. My servers are getting old so I've started pricing options, and it looks like dedicated is the way to go today. But I'm not sure...
I suppose it depends on the host. My host says "if you're colo, we provide admin at an hourly rate. If your machine needs a reboot, call us and we reboot it. If you're dedicated we don't touch your server beyond repairing it. If it needs a reboot, you login to our site and click a link and it is rebooted."
That doesn't seem like much of a difference. I'd need an off-site admin, but both charge by the hour, so no big deal. A live person reboot seems no better than a web-based software reboot. In fact I'll wager that the "live person" just logs in and clicks the link for me.
Colo is about twice as expensive as dedicated. That seems like the only big difference.
It also seems to me that with today's cPanel-style admin it's trivial to migrate to a new host, so competition to keep clients is intense. I'm guessing that keeps prices down. Reading between the lines of what my host says, I can tell he doesn't really want me to go dedicated. He kinda said they don't make much money on dedicated machines.
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Feb 24, 2008
Anyone have any opinions on Node2 colocation up in near Derby?
Seem to offer a good price point, but whats the service like?
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May 29, 2008
I have a web hosting business that has been growing constantly for a couple of years, now I think it's time to move on and instead of leasing servers start with colocation and operating my own hardware, I'm in Mexico and there are no good deals here as there are in other countries, so I have several questions about your appreciation of where things are better for business, US or Canada:
Where is colo cheaper?
Where is hardware cheaper?
Where is personnel less costly?
Where is personnel better qualified?
Where is office space cheaper?
Where is electrical energy cheaper?
Where are more investment opportunities?
Where are taxes lower?
Where is living less costly?
I've been researching these on my own but still have several doubts, may be you find some of this question obvious however I'd still like to know your appreciation.
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Jun 8, 2008
Which are the best colo provider in Texas. I checked cologuys, colo4dallas and zogmo.
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Jan 31, 2008
Are there any established providers that offer this? I want an established company who isn't going to run off with my server, and they need to provide high quality bandwidth(Level3, AT&T, Sprint, etc) with 100% Power SLA, etc. in a secure facility.
IE: If I buy my own servers can I ship them out to a datacenter to have them fully managed, basically being a dedicated server? Except i'll own the hardware, and they provide the bandwidth, management, etc.
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Dec 31, 2008
Can anyone recommend a descent colo in the Phoenix/Tempe area?
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May 15, 2008
how to organize a colo startup if I manage to get a cage with 2-3 cabinets in a Peer1 datacentre.
From my knowledge, Peer1 handles firewalling, BGP, etc on their end so I probably won't need it.
But how can I organize it, what do you guys do when you get a new client?
Have cables readily dangling in the racks or something so you can connect it to the clients right away?
What kind of reboot privs do you give out?
Monitoring traffic, etc?
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