HostV Load
Aug 30, 2008
Unfortunately the original thread has been closed, so I can't post this in there, but I feel an update should be posted, because people do watch this forum for information about various hosts, and the previous thread may well influence their decision. Original thread can be found at [url].
The bottom line is that the original issue has now been resolved, and it's been resolved well. Harry (Cirtex support) spent quite some time on Thursday monitoring the issue, identifying the problem, and fixing it, so that, on Friday, the problem was gone. Permanently by the look of it. We did have a couple of instances of slowness/high load through the day, but nothing of any consequence.
Unfortunately, Cirtex/HostV did make the same mistake that so many hosting/internet providers make, which was to assume that the customer's "Critical" rating meant the problem could be addressed at leisure with an inadequate response (ie. I report "problem occurs at 01:20 and lasts 2 hours every day", I get a response 4 hours later saying "it's ok now, job closed"), and to assume that the customer really has no idea what they're talking about.
It was only when I kicked up a stink that I received anything approaching an adequate level of support, and I felt that I had to maintain that stink until the problem was fixed. Which is REALLY irritating, because that causes everyone stress, and I have better things to do with my time than maintain a high level of indignation.
It's important to say, though, that this is NOT specific to HostV/Cirtex, which is why I'm sticking with them, rather than going elsewhere.
I've experienced it elsewhere, and I've probably even been responsible for causing it when I worked support a few years ago. The fact is that 95% of the time, it IS the customer's fault, and "critical" just means "I don't know what a GIF is and I *want* to know now!", but just as food for thought, it would be so much nicer for everyone if that didn't happen. Seriously, I don't like having to behave like a jerk to get some attention, but it's become a necessary evil.
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Aug 27, 2008
customer of HostV's VPS hosting, and for the past 3 days, at almost exactly 01:20 GMT, CPU load jumps from an average of about 0.10 to 2.5+, stays there for over an hour, then drops back down.
During this time, there are NO processes on my virtual server using any significant amount of CPU time, memory, or IO. No cron jobs are running on my server, etc.
Note the output from 'uptime' below (I was monitoring it waiting for the problem to occur, which it did at exactly the time I expected):
00:32:05 up 22:01, 2 users, load average: 0.09, 0.11, 0.08
00:32:07 up 22:01, 2 users, load average: 0.08, 0.11, 0.08
01:09:49 up 22:39, 2 users, load average: 0.06, 0.03, 0.00
01:10:03 up 22:39, 2 users, load average: 0.05, 0.03, 0.00
01:19:26 up 22:48, 2 users, load average: 0.46, 0.16, 0.04
01:20:42 up 22:50, 2 users, load average: 1.53, 0.55, 0.18
01:21:39 up 22:51, 2 users, load average: 1.40, 0.67, 0.24
01:46:04 up 23:15, 2 users, load average: 3.06, 2.02, 1.52
Also note output from 'top', taken when load average was at 3.06 shown on the last line above:
Cpu(s): 0.1% us, 0.0% sy, 0.0% ni, 91.0% id, 9.0% wa, 0.0% hi, 0.0% si
My cpu usage is very low (0.1%) but wait time is at 9.0%, and I've seen this go as high as 70% during these times.
So, basically, there is a problem that exists on the host node somewhere that is causing my site to become effectively unresponsive (page load 20 seconds+ - measured), and it happens every single day at the same time.
So, why am I posting it here instead of logging a trouble ticket? I have logged a trouble ticket, but when I encountered the problem yesterday, despite logging it as "CRITICAL", I had to wait nearly 5 hours for a response, which effectively said not much beyond "we noticed the problem and fixed it and we're monitoring it". So I don't have a lot of faith that today's response will be any better.
I moved to HostV because of similar problems I was encountering with shared hosting, and was assured before signing up that the kind of problem I'm seeing doesn't happen. So now I'm outlaying more than 10 times the cost for almost exactly the same problems and a similarly unhelpful response to it.
By publicly posting the problem, I would hope that someone at HostV will ensure the problem is addressed PROPERLY, rather than bandaided again, and that hopefully we will all be able to see just how good HostV's support CAN be (as evidenced in another similar post).
I await HostV/Cirtex's response.
As shown in the uptime information about, server uptime is 23:15, because I rebooted the virtual server yesterday to see if that helped. It didn't. In fact, it took over 20 minutes for the server to come back up, which is why I'm not going to do it again.
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May 2, 2009
The company to delete our server without prior warning or alert is to
After the deletion "and not before deletion" says that the reason the server's request to get the money back and that did not happen at all!
Statements of account do not work with! May have been deleted from their
We call back-up copy of the server do not want to give us!
I have lost my website due to the negligence of this company
My position is now after the loss of everything!
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Jun 11, 2009
I would like to ask for any information you can share about the company called hostV (www.hostv.com) and their VPS deals in particular. I would like to know if the company is worthy of dealing with.
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Mar 19, 2008
I thought it was time to post a review about Cirtex and their brother Company HostV.
At first I was at Cirtex with a shared plan. The first month all was ok, reliability ok, speed ok. Then it all went downhill. All sorts of problems started appearing, lots of customers were complaining at the time, anyway they offered to change servers. I switched servers and all was ok again. For a few months. Then they decided to change my server without notifying me. And guess what, everything started breaking again... Downtime, downtime and then some more downtime. After a lot of complaining things sorted out a bit, not 100% ok but on the verge of acceptable... Then I received an abuse notification. I run a vBulletin site that of course uses resources on the server, more than a static website. The forum is active but small. About 300 registered users with 7-15 users online at the same time. Nothing too "heavy" in my book...
Anyway, they said I had to transfer my account to a VPS or a Dedicated server. At the time they had a very nice offer for their VPS plans (50% off) so I thought to give it a try. I thought "Hell, I had problems with the shared plan, their VPS should be ok". How wrong was I.......
The VPS keeps crashing, they have a Virtuozo panel and WHM to manage the server, almost daily the site is down so I have to go in Virtuozo and restart the server. WHM doesn't work when this happens. After restart all is ok.
I am having trouble configuring the DNS for this server, this is a managed VPS so they have to help me fix it. But no, people still have problem accessing the site. Some can access the site in the morning and not in the afternoon. Some users told me that when they can't access it as www.mydomain.com, if they go at mydomain.com (minus the www) it is working. This all seemed odd to me and I thought it must had been an error in the user's computer configuration. But then I confirmed these problems cause these happened to me as well (for 3 different ISPs, 2 locations and various computers).
Oh yes, and their support? My god, childish to say the least! You tell them that the server's url does not resolve to an IP address and they tell you to send them a tracert! If somenone knows how to tracert something that does not resolve please tell me, I'd like to know!
Let me add the latest support ticket I had with them so that you can see the problems I'm having...: ....
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Dec 9, 2008
It takes a lot for me to be impressed, but HostV has done just that.
I migrated my site over a month ago to a new VPS plan. Up until then I was residing on a FFmpeg shared hosting plan(A company here) which was terrible(up, down, impossible slow access, huge memory usage).
My support tickets at HostV have been answered within hours regardless of when I have created them. They have fixed some of my own screw ups without hesitation and in great time and even installed some apache modules for me. My sites load faster then google now a days.
I run two streaming video sites, a few medium size forums and a couple wordpress blogs.
My bandwidth over the past month has been higher then ever thanks to the reliable service of the FFmpeg enabled VPS. 750 gb later I could not be more impressed.
So, if anyone is considering making a switch to a VPS anytime soon look at HostV's plans. They have far succeeded any expectation I had going in considering what I am paying.
they provide a backup service through virtuozo that does not use your own disk space for free
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Apr 22, 2008
Can you please offer your ideas which type of plan is to be better chosen for a video sharing site www.cirtexhosting.com/shared.shtml or www.hostv.com/virtual.shtml, they both offer this feature, so what would be a better solution if I'm still quite unsure about the number of the visitors to the site?
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Jun 12, 2008
I would like to share with guys the experience I had with Hostv over past 7 days.
After signing up I got some email configuration problem on server side, but I haven't changed a thing on that section. I couldn't send or receive emails for like two days, contacted the support, didn't a reply till 12 hours later (ok maybe that's because it was Saturday ). After about 10 emails going forward and back they then found out the problem was caused by some misconfiguration on mail server, which I haven't NOT touched after I signup. Come on, I thought I purchased a VPS server not a $2.99 shared!. So basically I wasted two days on this email problem! After that I thought ok I can a have break now... but no there's more. The server goes down AT LEAST once a day, and when it's down, everything is DOWN, including the WHM and Virtuozzo. To sum it all up, I have not had a peaceful day since I joined them! Oh and by the way, my server is still down as I'm writing this! and has been so in about 1 hour now!
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Dec 20, 2007
I've been having trouble with my VPS for a while now. In the QoS alerts page in Virtuozzo it seems to be a problem with numtcpsock and tcprcvbuf, mainly numtcpsock.
Copy these into the browser:
i18.photobucket.com/albums/b106/gnatfish/qosnumtcpsock2.jpg
And when i run cat /proc/user_beancounters:
i18.photobucket.com/albums/b106/gnatfish/beancounters2.jpg
This line is particularly scary:
numtcpsock 164 164 166 166 7321
What do i need to do, to get the website running again? It's only one site on the vps a proxy. So i thought a vps would be able to handle one proxy.
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May 6, 2008
Anyone know of some good server load testers ( commercial )?
Im not looking for application based load testing, I need real web server load testing... need to see how much traffic this one site can take before it cries.
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Aug 12, 2008
I'm having the oddest issue. For some reason, some of the websites on my server load fine, and some take a really long time to load (2 minutes).
Now, the server load is fine, and the size of the sites aren't the issue either. I've restarted Apache and a couple more services, and still the same sites seem to load very slow.
What could be causing this since it's only effecting certain websites?
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Jul 1, 2009
I would like to know how to check load via ssh and check files causing load?
I want the ssh codes for 2 different set of control panels, one with cpanel+whm and other with kloxo+hypervm
and I would also know how to check the files causing the load, such as some files could have been interrupted while processing, so they could be causing load some times, so I want to stop such processes if any are running on the vps on my friends accounts
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Mar 16, 2009
I just got a futurehosting VPS recently and something is puzzling me. Is it normal that an idle CPanel virtuozzo VPS that has no sites on it should display "top" loads of between 1 and 4 regularly? I've been watching the load for a bit now and it keeps jumping between 0-4. When it goes 1 or above, the WHM panel becomes really slow, timing out... They seem to use a beast 8 core machine, so it would take some activity to cause even a 1 load..
I do not have much knowledge about VPS hosting, on a dedicated I would expect the loads to stay 0-0.2 at this point... Is the 1-4 load showing the result of heavy usage by other VPS users on the node? There is absolutely nothing that could cause a load in my vps as far as I see... Is this perfectly normal on any VPS?
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Jul 14, 2009
You think this is funny? Not at all.
I'm on LON03 server and I recive yesterday from Future Hosting this advise about hight load.
I got then 1 month ago, and the solution was *JUST* to remove a phpBB website with 80+ users.
I do not believe that the VPS could get this kind of loads.
Funny is that the VPS was "monitored" by them at the same time. They say the load spikes out for times to times in a matter of seconds.
This load is taken from the Parallels Infrastructure Panel or even the Node Panel, not from the VSP itself. Even when I'm logged in.
I've been a client for 6 month, and 2 of the last 3 constantly getting CPU hight usage. Strange is, that I come from a 512mb/25gb PowerVPS server to a 1GB/30GB server, with the *SAME* sites.
Anyway, the prupose of this topic is to:
- check if anyone had this problem (problem is: beeing sure that this load is IMPOSSIBLE to be created from yout service)
- recommend a decent VPS provider besides Future Hosting and PowerVPS.
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Jun 7, 2008
From time to time my server's loads are going upto 900s.. And it becomes nearly same days each week. I've checked that backups and crons are disabled.
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Jan 17, 2008
It has been running fine for almost six months now and now from past few days it's all gone in black zone?
PID USER PR NI %CPU TIME+ %MEM VIRT RES SHR S COMMAND
32084 nobody 16 0 73 2:00.34 0.9 162m 75m 8260 R /usr/local/apache/bin/httpd -DSSL
13857 nobody 16 0 50 1:13.53 0.7 147m 59m 7900 R /usr/local/apache/bin/httpd -DSSL
32114 nobody 15 0 36 1:46.67 0.4 117m 30m 8600 S /usr/local/apache/bin/httpd -DSSL
I get equal share from CPU plus it has got 384MB of memory? Why load is so high when I check in VPP......it is going in black and yellow zone in resources all the time?
It shows me following Parameters in QoS alerts
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Nov 25, 2007
to know the load shown when doing a 'uptime' command is just for my VPS or the entire node?
what is the acceptable average load?
cos for mine, i see most the time is less than 1, but at times, for no particular reason that i know of, it can go up to between 5~10
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Aug 29, 2007
Due to high IO load server is going crash once a day.
I have optimized the MySQL, Upgraded the kernel but still it's same. The SWAP seems normal.
Now probably it is due to high traffic of http or emails. How should I diagnose and fix it? I am in big trouble.
Its PIV 3.0, 1GB Ram and 450 Websites
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Feb 2, 2007
i've heart that xen can handle loads better than vz or openvz. is this right?
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Jun 4, 2009
I have a question regarding load on this cpu.
Current cpu load is around 1.7 - 2.1.
Is this to much, is it time to upgrade cpu or?
Server is running 32bit Centos 5.3.
top - 17:17:21 up 27 days, 16:24, 1 user, load average: 1.59, 1.43, 1.22
Tasks: 159 total, 1 running, 158 sleeping, 0 stopped, 0 zombie
Cpu0 : 9.0%us, 1.0%sy, 0.0%ni, 89.7%id, 0.3%wa, 0.0%hi, 0.0%si, 0.0%st
Cpu1 : 16.7%us, 1.0%sy, 0.0%ni, 82.3%id, 0.0%wa, 0.0%hi, 0.0%si, 0.0%st
Cpu2 : 2.3%us, 0.7%sy, 0.0%ni, 97.0%id, 0.0%wa, 0.0%hi, 0.0%si, 0.0%st
Cpu3 : 36.5%us, 2.7%sy, 0.0%ni, 60.5%id, 0.0%wa, 0.0%hi, 0.3%si, 0.0%st
Mem: 4148576k total, 2738172k used, 1410404k free, 410876k buffers
Swap: 2096440k total, 192k used, 2096248k free, 1413824k cached
Thank you,
s-f-r-j
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Jun 21, 2007
I want to have a fail over for my server. I was told that load balancing is the way to go.
Could anyone give me some instructions of what I would require. My primary server contains Cpanel.
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Apr 8, 2008
the loads on my server is VERY HIGH and it needs to be upgraded fast.
I really have no clue as what to do... and i do not know any expert other than you people here - to help me out and put me on the right track.
i was thinking of
1) Getting a server with better CPU and more RAM
2) Load Balancing
However I know nothing of load balancing (other than how to spell it correctly )
1) Which of the above two options should i choose?
2) what are the extra costs in load balancing?
3) what should i know about load balancing before deciding?
4) How does load balancing work? I know there are two server - like one for database and one as webserver... but how does this work together?
5) what config should i be looking at in the two servers?
I'll stop here else i can go on and on and on...
I am giving the details of my server and service below, in case you guys need it.
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Sep 18, 2007
We host a large number of small websites and are looking for high-availability and the ability to do maintenance on our application servers, so I'm looking for a load balancing solution. At this point, I'm considering Zeus ZXTM LB software, the Coyote Point e350si, and potentially an F5 1500 LTM.
The F5 solution is a total budget buster, and the Coyote Point UI is rough around the edges, but I've used them and they are reliable. Zeus looks like a winner with a great UI, but I haven't heard much about their reliability.
Bandwidth requirements are low at this point, so this is mostly about reliability and ease of configuration of a moderately complex set of services.
Any opinions on these vendors, or alternates I should consider?
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Oct 23, 2007
I run a GSP (Game Server Provider) and i just baught 2 new octi xeon servers(Intel 5320)
i am having a problem with the load balancing, it dosen't balance de cpu usage on all cores but only on one, and it gets at about 80-85% and 3%CPU usage on the other one.
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Jun 18, 2007
I was currious as to some suggestions you guys may have for setting up a load balanced website...
I would preffer it to be software based and free as I am just using this for some testing purposes.
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Jul 11, 2008
I'm looking at load balancing a group of servers located at different data centers.
How feasible is this? Which options/solutions should I take a look at?
I would like to route using some sort of IP tunneling or similar so that the user doesn't see ww1.domain.com etc.
I will be distributing the load of the static/dynamic web pages, no database clustering.
I would prefer something a bit more intuitive than round robin. Perhaps directing incoming traffic based on existing server load etc.
Most of the load balancing solutions I've looked at assume all your servers are on the same local network.
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Aug 19, 2007
I'm just curious, how many around here use load balancers in front of their webservers, and what kind of traffic do you push with them? (What kind of load balancer as well) Any other specifics would be nice as well.
Also, do you have failover for your load bal?
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Oct 19, 2007
Hi. Can you please tell me how hardware load balancers work? I mean. What would i have to do to load a balance a site of mine?
Also what type of price range would i be looking at and what to look out for.
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Oct 22, 2006
I'm really curious what makes the high end load balancer better than the low end ones.
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Sep 10, 2006
# apf -r
Unable to load iptables module (ip_tables), aborting.
# iptables -L
Chain INPUT (policy ACCEPT)
target prot opt source destination
Chain FORWARD (policy ACCEPT)
target prot opt source destination
Chain OUTPUT (policy ACCEPT)
target prot opt source destination
# uname -a
Linux servername 2.6.17.9 #1 SMP Sun Aug 27 17:08:11 ICT 2006 i686 athlon i386 GNU/Linux
is there any reason that I cannot use iptables? If I edit monokern option in apf to 1, I cannot use ftp in passive mode
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Jun 24, 2009
My VPS holds about 80 domains and low-use accounts.
Every night, from around 1.30am, the load suddenly skyrockets and will usually be around 5 to 10 for a few hours. Occasionally it'll spike to 30+ for a few minutes.
I had some antispam software running, and a couple of other packages (mail queues, mail manage etc), so I disabled all of that and removed all the crontab entries etc.
It's not really made any difference.
I can see the load stats going back 8 hours, as part of the ASSP spam package (I've just left the ASSP server load cron running just so I can continue monitoring it!)
Can the apparent load on my VPS be caused by other VPS's on the same node?? So in reality, my load is fine but is being affected by other people's VPS's?
I hope that makes sense. I'm 99% sure that my VPS is 'clean' (in so far as cron entries)
I'm asking the question because I took a second VPS on the same node and that one too has high loads overnight when there's nothing running on it (ie, no add-on software, no Cpanel accounts added)
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