DDOS Deflate On A Static Video File Server

Mar 6, 2008

I am using DDOS Deflate

[url]

I have a problem with NO_OF_CONNECTIONS.
The default is 150

For example, if a website has 200 thumbnails in one page, then the user will get banned.
But in my case, each time a user have only 1 connection(He only access 1 flv file each time).

So, is that safe for me to decrease the number to 20.

I can see a lot of IP having more than 80 connections, which I think they are ddos attack.

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: 67.21.44.60 not real my server ip just for sample

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