Colo Terms And Definitions
Jun 3, 2007Can I know whats the definition of the following :-
1.Rackspace
2.Private Rack
3.Private Cage
4.Private Suite
Can I know whats the definition of the following :-
1.Rackspace
2.Private Rack
3.Private Cage
4.Private Suite
I and my colleagues often times run into misunderstandings about terminology. I'd love your input on the following - please also make suggestions of terms we should be including in our list - we will be posting these to our website.
CRITICAL POWER LOAD ("CRITICAL LOAD"): The usable electrical capacity at the data center floor and server cord. Does not include any ancilary load for cooling, lighting, common areas or other equipment. VERY IMPORTANT DEFINITION. Also called IT load, data load, server load, etc..
CRITICAL COOLING LOAD: The usable cooling capacity at the data center floor. Does not include any ancilary load for lighting, common areas or other equipment.
PARASITIC LOAD: The power and cooling load for all ancilary equipment and common area operation.
RETAIL COLOCATION: Multi-tenant, turnkey data centers that offer services down to the rack or partial rack / cabinet.
WHOLESALE COLOCATION: Multi-tenant, turnkey data centers that offer services down to the PDU. Typically require commits greater than 300 KW (2000 SF approx).
SHELL DATA CENTER: A building that has been pre-qualified for power and telecom access, with or without any other improvements (i.e. four concrete walls), and amenable to data center development and use. My become a single-tenant property or colocation.
COMMISSIONABLE (WHOLESALE / RETAIL) DATA CENTER / COLOCATION: An unoccupied, fully built data center previously in operational condition but that can be brought to fully operational status with minimal improvements and via the commissioning process.
EXCHANGE COLOCATION: Multi-tenant, turnkey data centers where ISPs interconnect and that offer services down to the rack or partial rack / cabinet.
CARRIER NEUTRAL COLOCATION: Multi-tenant, turnkey data centers that are unaffiliated with a network service provider.
NETWORK SERVICE PROVIDER (NSP) COLOCATION: Multi-tenant, turnkey data centers that are affiliated with a network service provider.
Colocation is complete new to me. Because of the speed limit of the broadband in my house and unaviabily of DSL I have to conisder colocation.
Please shed me some light on negotiating terms with the Colo company;
- do I need to purchase a rack from the colo company to install my server
- electricity - is it central supply and I don't need installing power-supply on the server
- can I make access to my server in day time for repair
- is there speed limit on the broadband connection to my server
- what other terms I have to pay attention to
etc.
Heads Up.
Forget everything you've learned about Windows Server "authenticated" and "unauthenticated" licensing for your monthly SPLA reports. The game has completely changed, and NOT for the better.
Microsoft has changed to "outsourcer" and "non-outsourcer" licensing instead.
Quoting Microsoft:
Quote:
"Outsourcing is an application or service that a service provider manages for their customer. For purposes of this definition, the managed application or service is:
(a) Used by its customer's employees, contractors, agents, or vendors
(b) Not the service provider's intellectual property
I contacted MS directly for clarification on how this applies to webhosting. The response was, if the service provider is (and I quote), "simply managing the infrastructure layer and not managing anything else... in other words just keeping the lights on", that is non-outsourced.
If you are providing any software or management of the environment, even something as simple as Windows Updates or other basic management tasks on the server-- which is the case, for example, if you are running a shared webserver, then it is "outsourced".
Your email server is providing a service that is considered an outsourced service, and you must report (and pay for) an "outsourced" license for that server.
And here is the bad news.
Under the old terms, the Datacenter edition of Windows Server (which allows unlimited VMs at no additional charge on the machine where the license is assigned) cost just under $50/month.
The new "outsourcer" Datacenter license is nearly $250/mo. Yes, you read that right, a whopping 400% monthly license fee increase for Datacenter edition.
A single copy of Windows Server Standard edition is over $75/mo. when used in the outsourcing role.
Other pricing and terms have changed as well, so grab a copy of the new SPUR and READ it. All it takes is a moment of uncertainty to put you wildly out of compliance under this new layer of insanity.
In their terms of service, they state that if files over 500kb exceeds 10% of the space your uploaded files, you are violating their Acceptable Use Policy and will suspend your account.
This is clearly out to fraud their clients because if you upload 10 large pictures and put them on a website along with a simple HTML page, you are effectively breaking their terms. So watch out for these tricks.
I have been a client of WHB since 2002. I use them just for a couple of galleries and such through the years. Recently, I made a business that serves MP3's for a couple of my clients. I bought a their plan for 300GB and 2TB transfer. I knew that they weren't selling 300GB nor 2TB transfer so I read their AUP which stated that they were really selling about 10% if you want to host files greater than 500KB.
I used about 15GB of space and and 30GB of bandwidth a month which is 5% of the disk space and 1.5% of the bandwidth that they claim to give you. This is clearly not abuse under any interpretation. However, it violates their AUP and I have been suspended.
I could have fill up 150GB of their disk space with garbage HTML files to accomdate the AUP but I would consider that abusing their service.
Beware of their AUP when you want to host with WHB. Make sure that you understand the terms or else they have the upper hand.
I was not doing any sort of annoying activities such as emailing, linking a zillion domains, using CPU time, breaking copyright, or otherwise abusing their service.
I'm only writing this to warn people of the potential pitfalls in using WHB. If any of you recommend a web host that isn't out to get you with questionable terms, please post it because I have to move my website and files. My budget is about $30 a month.
i go to fdc server for colocation i see something like :
1U = $39 than 1Mbps dedicated Internap = $15/Mbps ?? What does the 1Mpbs mean ? Does it mean i pay 30x15x1 = 450$ per month for bw alone ? and extra $39 for space of 1 u and power?
Also what does 95th percentile mean, please provide examples in terms of numbers if possible.
Also is there anything bad if you get 2Mpbs bw charged at xyz$/Mpbs? Example of bad "slow downloads" "slow sites" , say i have 600KBPS home connection, will i be able to download off such a server @ 600KPS max or close to it or will it be only 200KBPS max maybe?
I am sure new players who want to colocate also get confused with all the terms and the price? Examples with numbers of what kind of bw's are available would help.
Also if i order a server say from dell, what parts do you need to order ? Like example bezel? Rails? etc. etc.....
I understand how it works because I use it at my full-time job.
But in the web design business one of my clients has expressed interest in setting up exchange service so they can access their webmail and calenders, etc., from home PC's.
i currently am hosted on Hostgator. I can create a subdomain webmail.thisclient.com --> then what? Do I just upload the ecxhange server ( I have the software) to the website? What else do I need to do?
I have never implemented an exchange system before. If it is too complicated I will just source it out if the client decides to go ahead with it.
Any advice? Again, really not sure of how it operates. Can I even do this through hostgator or do I need a specific host?
Our org is in a position to modify/customize the standard Service Terms & Conditions offered by one of our webhosts.
Our org has around 70 staff and only one IT guy. So the technical level is very low. I'm unsure of exactly how many servers there are perhaps around 10 and they are with 3 different providers.
We discovered that different departments were being charged different prices for similar services and that kind of thing.
useful modifications of the contracts, that reflects the low tech level of the staff,
what is the best server hosting company that i can get speed from to the midle east --?
i have houge files that i want to store on my server and let people download them att maxemom speeds
so what is the best company that can do that?
xlhost?
powerserver?
or what?
While dedicated server providers are quick to promote that they support the server hardware how proactive do you expect them to be in terms of identifying hardware problems?
When hardware goes bad a customer might see performance problems and report it, or perhaps notice hardware errors in the logs.
Or is it the host's job to be monitoring hardware components status? Would you consider such monitoring to be part of the basic service or an optional management extra?
I'm interested in your expectations with a typical dedicated server.
Please give me the difference. Colo in carrier hotel, we can choose our preferred network provider, but should we do that if we cannot have our own tech in datacenter? How about the supporting service from carrier hotel? Just general question, cause I dont address exactly which facility.
And the second would be more expensive? Saying the same number of rack, amount of bandwidth... Who is providing IP addresses then?
I've been out of the game for a while and now looking at colo prices each server is only allocated 0.5a on most plans.
I was looking at purchasing a 1u HP DL160 dual quad core system with at least dual sata raided drives
My question is what kind of amps would a system like this pull? and how much do data centers typically charge for that additional power if it needed over the .5
if anyone knew hosts (other then FDC in USA) that offers 1U-4U/midtower colocation with 100Mbit or greater uplink, with atleast 2TB of transfer. With IRC allowed.
My budget is ~$100, I'm fairly sure it can be done as I saw FDC had one for $79, and it would be fine though I was hoping if anyone knew any others.
Also, Giga-International has what I need, are they reliable?
Anyone here have much experience in a facility with 48VDC (like a telco facility). Is it more trouble than it's worth?
View 9 Replies View Relatedcolo of a 1u server that would need 500gig per month of b/w and I perferably would like to find a DC in NY/northern NJ or southern CT although in my search I seem to be getting price quotes of $100+ per month which I think is insane when I see dedicateds with more b/w for the same amount or even less.
I know most will say just get a dedicated server somewhere but my requirments are that I need a server with a lot of ram and at least a dual cpu and dedicate's with a dual cpu and 2gigs or more of ram seem to be much more thenmy budget.
So any suggestions for a $60 or less per month colo space with 500gig of b/w or a dedicated server provider offering a server in that price range with dual cpu and 2gig ddr ram and 80gig hdd?
By the way I looked at ezzi.net which has a $49 deal on a dedicated server but no option to have one with a dual cpu:
I have had experience with reselling hosting using HostGator seller. My job was basically to run my site and get customers, set up price plans etc on WHM. I sold that company a while back. I am ready to have another shot at hosting, but this time I want to use my own servers...
I have found a great site, which has customisations etc. on servers (http://www.cybertronpc.com), but they don't ship to UK. (If I'm using colo is US, could I get it shipped straight to them?)
My main question is, is colo needed? If I am going to setup this company the Data-Center is not going to be local, either London or in US. So there is no chance of me going down unless it is to pick up my server . So I think I'm going to need a maintaned service I think. The server will be used for clients data (shared hosting). So what services will I need in terms of security and stability? What am I looking for in a colo service? What about back-ups of data on the server? Is that my responsibility or can it be bought as a service? Ok... now I'm guessing that I'm going to need colo...
What are common problems etc. with servers? Am I going to need virtual IP connection for maintainance... Is it best I pay for this or a service operator? Any recommendations on where to have the colo (i'm based in UK) and why? What can I do when it is time for me to request my server back from UK?
When changing colo services is there any way of avoiding down-time?
I have noticed that many web hosts offer intel celeron machines @ $55 per month...they do not own the datacenters but colocate the servers,
We are also thinking of buying 2-3 such machines @ $450 each and then coloing them in the USA
I think about 800gigs-1tb would be the bandwidth requirements per server..
we aren't interested in RACKS...we just want to colo 2-3 machines to see how fast they sell, and then maybe we might order about 10-15 servers..
who do you think can offer us a decent deal for less than $40-50 per month...all
currently I have managed several dedicated servers. I plan to colo it with 1 rack at a datacentre. So, before I buy hardware or software, I need some helpful info/guide.
- I need my server can be monitored, reboot remotely. What kind of hardware is require and please suggest some models.
- Which software is suitable for billing, monitoring. Please suggest any software come with good API since I plan to develop own small control panel later.
anyone knows any good colocations in orlando, FL? I need 2 mb and 300 gb for 49.99 per month.
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I have several low end dedis and im thinking of buying an enterprise class server with lots of diskspace (raid 5, dual power, ecc, etc.), have it colocated and move all the accounts to that server. I would be saving in the long run but kinda turned-off due to all eggs in one (enterprise-class) basket dilema. I woud be saving on server management cost too because I'm signing up one machine only instead of several.
Is going colocation a natural progression of the web hosting business cycle? We start off with a Reseller Account in the beginning - then grow and lease a Dedicated Server. And then grow and lease another and another..... Is colocation the next big step?
I'm considering going with CalPop for one of my colo sites. I've read the user reviews and apart from those who were chaffed because of scratched servers and reboots they seem decent enough. My take on sticking anything in a datacenter is to stick it in yourself and rent the entire rack. That should take care of 90% of the negative reviews I have read, so my question is does any one have any real review of their services? Bandwidth performance, etc?
Secondly, I need a second colo for a redundant server. I'd like to find something closer on the East coast that offers the same pricing structure and services.
Anyone know what firewall do I need for my colo? I want to protect external IP. Here is my setup
3 servers, all have two nic cards, one of the cards will be the external IP and the other one will be LAN IP. So my question is what hardware firewall do I need to protect the External IP?
I was thinking of a cisco pix 515e. Which only route external IP to the LAN IP. I need something where I don't have to route, It just protect the external IP.
I need 1U of space, .5 amp (50 watts) power, one IP, 2.5mbps bidirectional bandwidth (total of 5mbps up + down) and about 10GB of traffic per day each direction (total of 20GB up + down). Would be nice if they have remote KVM along with console (serial) access. Location should be anywhere in USA.
Purpose is to host a VPN router for various remote locations to connect in to. Reliability and good connection (low latency) is important.
I've been a colo since the beginning of time. My servers are getting old so I've started pricing options, and it looks like dedicated is the way to go today. But I'm not sure...
I suppose it depends on the host. My host says "if you're colo, we provide admin at an hourly rate. If your machine needs a reboot, call us and we reboot it. If you're dedicated we don't touch your server beyond repairing it. If it needs a reboot, you login to our site and click a link and it is rebooted."
That doesn't seem like much of a difference. I'd need an off-site admin, but both charge by the hour, so no big deal. A live person reboot seems no better than a web-based software reboot. In fact I'll wager that the "live person" just logs in and clicks the link for me.
Colo is about twice as expensive as dedicated. That seems like the only big difference.
It also seems to me that with today's cPanel-style admin it's trivial to migrate to a new host, so competition to keep clients is intense. I'm guessing that keeps prices down. Reading between the lines of what my host says, I can tell he doesn't really want me to go dedicated. He kinda said they don't make much money on dedicated machines.
Anyone have any opinions on Node2 colocation up in near Derby?
Seem to offer a good price point, but whats the service like?
I have a web hosting business that has been growing constantly for a couple of years, now I think it's time to move on and instead of leasing servers start with colocation and operating my own hardware, I'm in Mexico and there are no good deals here as there are in other countries, so I have several questions about your appreciation of where things are better for business, US or Canada:
Where is colo cheaper?
Where is hardware cheaper?
Where is personnel less costly?
Where is personnel better qualified?
Where is office space cheaper?
Where is electrical energy cheaper?
Where are more investment opportunities?
Where are taxes lower?
Where is living less costly?
I've been researching these on my own but still have several doubts, may be you find some of this question obvious however I'd still like to know your appreciation.
Which are the best colo provider in Texas. I checked cologuys, colo4dallas and zogmo.
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IE: If I buy my own servers can I ship them out to a datacenter to have them fully managed, basically being a dedicated server? Except i'll own the hardware, and they provide the bandwidth, management, etc.
Can anyone recommend a descent colo in the Phoenix/Tempe area?
View 14 Replies View Relatedhow to organize a colo startup if I manage to get a cage with 2-3 cabinets in a Peer1 datacentre.
From my knowledge, Peer1 handles firewalling, BGP, etc on their end so I probably won't need it.
But how can I organize it, what do you guys do when you get a new client?
Have cables readily dangling in the racks or something so you can connect it to the clients right away?
What kind of reboot privs do you give out?
Monitoring traffic, etc?
I have an extra tower server (Dell sc1430) that I'd like to colocate in Seattle. Anyone have a suggestion of a company that would colocate a tower in Seattle?
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