AlphaRed Vs Choopa Vs LeaseWeb - Who Oversells The Most
May 11, 2008
I am considering getting high bandwidth hosting from either alphared, choopa, or leaseweb, but before I do I would like to ask you which one would give me the best speeds, globally. Any other info that you can provide would be useful too. Thanks!
Also, if you can suggest another host for high bandwidth that is very reliable and has great ping results for the us, europe, and asia, i'd be interested.
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Jul 16, 2008
I'm thinking about switching to Choopa? Does anybody here have an opinion on them or are currently using them?
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Jun 5, 2009
My server every 15 days or so just dies. You can get to the login prompt of ssh but when you enter the username, the password prompt doesn't appear and timesout.
Only a reboot fixes the issue.
How can I find out the reason why it crashes? It is centos.
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Aug 20, 2008
i was wondering anyone here using choopa.com? their name sounds funny but are they reliable and quality provider? and is they have good and solid network?
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Sep 30, 2008
I've decided to move from LSN (review coming soon) to a new home, but I'm not quite sure where to put them. (To avoid any confusion from the title: My babies are my websites, not servers if someone would mistake this thread for being a co-lo ).
I've looked at choopa and gigenet as they have gotten good reviews and when looking at the outage reports forum here they don't seem to have had many reports.
For some reason my gut feeling says "go with Gigenet", considering all reviews I've read about them has been extremely good, not to mention the uptime they've had. I'm not sure how accurate these statistics are, so please correct me if wrong.
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The things that makes me worried about choopa are:
* 12 Months contract
* "The May Incident" of Choopa from the link above. 833 minutes of downtime?? But an average uptime of 99.94% over 1114 days seems very good considering whatever happened in May 2008 killed the statistics.
* Haven't heard much about the company and google wasn't very helpful finding reviews. Seen gigenet here and there and heard great things about their ProxyShield. Hey, even WHT use it.
The only falling point I can see on Gigenet is the price. I'd have to pay $1,471 compared to $798 with the newest offer from Choopa ($673 more a month, $8076 more a year). The 100Mbit unlimited is $1000 compared to Choopas $500. If I'd want to upgrade in the future, I could get almost four servers at Choopa for the price of two at Gigenet.
Does any of you think $673 extra pr month with Gigenet is justified? Would the service be _that_ much better?
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Oct 19, 2007
Searching for choopa.com on the forums there are a lot of threads by "Andy Choopa" with some insanely good deals on servers and bandwidth. However, out of the many many threads, I've yet to see a single person respond to one of them saying that they purchased a server, were happy/not happy with it, etc.
I was just wondering if anyone has purchased any of those deals and if so wouldn't mind sharing some insight on your experience re: the network, support, etc?
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Jan 8, 2009
I'm getting constant but random error messages on 2 different servers with Choopa.
IS this a network error on their end?
Connection Interrupted
The connection to the server was reset while the page was loading.
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Sep 6, 2008
We are currently with Alpha Red hosting, and wondering about other services. What are the pros and cons of SoftLayer, Alpha Red, and Choopa and who is simply the best (in your opinion and why) and who is the worst.
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Mar 8, 2007
It seems something has gone awry with choopa's recently planned migration. All but one of my servers returned to life, of course, the one that didnt is the database server that they all rely on. That server has been down going on 18 hours now, and of course no one answers the telephones, AIM, or support tickets. Of the one or two times that I've gotten through on the telephone, the tech has told me that they're putting hands on every machine that got migrated, and connecting a console. They also mentioned something about not sleeping for 24 hours. I think its time to make plans to move my equipment elsewhere... 18 hours of downtime for a 2 hour planned maintenance window seems a bit wonky to me.
I forgot to mention, each time I had gotten someone on the phone / aim, they said they would immediately go check the server and see whats wrong, and none of them updated any of my tickets or got back to me.
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Jun 9, 2007
any comments on Alphared VPS package?
their price is very competitive.
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Jun 11, 2007
Does anyone used the alphared VPS?
I want to buy a vps which is better alphared or Godaddy.
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Jun 19, 2008
I thought they were phony like the BlowOutHost person who scammed $140 out of me.
Their deal looked too good to be true, and just what I wanted and at my price. So after a week later, unable to find similar deal I decided to finally take the chance and purchase a server.
I got my server on 6/9 and it has been just awesome so far.
My specs: ....
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Jun 15, 2007
I saw alphared banner and ordered one VPS
But it is bad.
After 4 days I still cannot use. I contact suportors but they dont fix problem. I reboot VPS but wait 2 hours, still "is starting" Maybe wait 24 hours
I think webhostingtalk remove their banner, if not I think there is lot of victims like me.
Never use alphared.com VPS, it is #1 in bad.
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Jun 9, 2007
I saw an alphared banner the other day here on WHT, and checked out their prices, and WOW (Yes, I know the old adage...I don't need to hear it...)
I did some searching and read all about the drama that happened around them several years ago. I'm not interested in that. I want to know how they are now. Has the level of service gone up or is it still in the crapper?
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Jul 1, 2007
Wow, I never knew I could waste so much time and effort on one company.
So as you can see this is not good.
I ordered their $20 VPS, and about 24 hours later I recieved the information regarding login. I logged in, and every button I clicked said Service not available. So I figured it was just because it got set up, so I submit a ticket and get a response that there is no problem.
2 Weeks later, I am submitting the same ticket. Same Response.
3 Weeks later I am on chat with them 5 straight nights, and different people keep telling me my server is overloaded and will get moved by morning. And guess what happens in the morning... "Service not available" for everything in Plesk. 20 Ticket reply's later, no support. Nothing works, so basically I got to the point I just demanded a refund and cancellation of anything service they tried to provide me.
I haven't even been able to successfully see my index.html....
They completely lied about every thing they did. It is the worst company I have ever dealt with regarding anything. Please dont make the mistake I have made.
I will keep you guys up to date on how long it takes them to cancel my service, and if they refund my money... If not they should be expecting a full inbox.
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Jun 14, 2007
I am currently deciding between these 3 companies for a vps solution. They all seem to be solid and provide good deals. I would just like to know everyone's experience in terms of speed, uptime, support handling and stablility.
Uptime & support matters the most to me.
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Aug 4, 2007
I'm thinking of getting a 40GB/2500GB VPS with Alphared. It'd be serving static files (~10MB each), and no dynamic content or files.
Support is not the most important thing (Yes, I read the older topics ) since it would be a secondary mirror for download only. However for it to be effective I'll need to be sure about performance & bandwidth allocation.
Has anybody ever used them for this kind of thing? Are you able to really use all 2500GB for the (relatively low) fee of $49/mo? And if yes, how is the speed per connection? 200K/sec possible during peak times?
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Oct 24, 2008
I don`t know what will be with AlphaRed but for me current situation don`t look good and look like every day they can shutdown all servers without warning....in this moment cPanel licenses stop to work, alphared site is down, uberbox is down...somebody know more info?
I thinking to move all my sites to other host and still I don`t know where to move all...
I need 400-500Mbit dedicated BW, 6000GB on hard drives and few servers....also, I need stable network, true 24/7/365 support, good prices
In this moment I thinking about choopa.com but I don`t know much about them...to move all data and setup all I need few days and before I do that I must find good host...
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Jun 15, 2008
Most of our traffic is from europe ( Netherlands) and at the moment we have a host in Netherlands but Bandwith is expensive and service is poor.
So we are looking to move to Alphared or FDC, does anybody now how good the connection is of those to europe?
If there are some people from Europe or the Netherlands can you do some tests? Thanks
Alphared:
FDC:
FXW (netherlands)
We can send you the files :-)
If you know better host with better connections and cheap prices for unmetered 100MB line
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Apr 22, 2008
Just a warning to everyone.
I ordered 5 servers from alphared.com, I spent an entire evening explaining to their sales person what I required.
In the end I decided on 4 Duo's and one P4. All to be connected with a Gigabit private Lan and to share 10Mbit premium bandwidth. I was promised it would take approx three days for this to be setup.
One week later I was met with an apology that the price quoted would unfortunately have to be tripled due to a mistake.
I paid $3,500 setup. Its now three weeks later and I have NO service.
I follow up every few days and am promised the service will be up soon.
STILL NO SERVICE!
Today I'm met with ANOTHER email saying it will be 10 days to allocate me 32 IP's. Not to mention the mess that every few days I'm asking how I want the servers setup.
I have missed my deadlines, my current provider is still billing me, my clients are moaning that I"m doing nothing about our current providers issues.
Are there any decent providers out there? or is finding someone who is competent and does what they say a pipedream?
And I guess I've lost $3,500 ... haven't I?
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Dec 19, 2008
I got a email yesterday from a company called clickandbuy.com saying that i signed up for their account and that i authorized AlphaRed to debit the account automatically.
I never gave AlphaRed or this clickandbuy to create or debit any account. Whats their angle on this scam? i don't get it.
I was a customer w/AR back in June for one month. I canceled and got my money refunded because their network was not performing.
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Jun 27, 2008
A friend and I ordered a dedicated AlphaRed server, drawn in by the excellent pricing.
We were problem-free for a few days, until I noticed my irssi (IRC chat client) screen detach. I assumed I accidentally pressed something, and continued chatting. Then it happened again, and a few more times. I looked at the last people to login to my shell, and it showed that an AlphaRed employee had logged into both 'root' and my personal shell. The employee was reading my chat logs in real-time.
The AlphaRed employ did not only read my chats, but participated as well. You may find logs that here: pastebin.ca/raw/1057127
Some excerpts:
05:05:40 <@infid3l[eMo]> hm..
05:05:48 <@infid3l[eMo]> =D i love finding hacked shells
05:05:52 <@infid3l[eMo]> especially when they're on my network
05:06:01 <@infid3l[eMo]> and then snatching control of them =D =D
05:06:44 <@lifelike> = d
05:06:53 <@infid3l[eMo]> so whats up ppl
05:06:58 <@infid3l[eMo]> sorry to break into your conversation =D
and:
05:08:00 <@infid3l[eMo]> lol=D
05:08:30 <@infid3l[eMo]> I guess infid3l wants the screen back
05:08:35 <@infid3l[eMo]> eh, i'll give it back.
05:08:41 <@lifelike> lol who u
05:08:42 <@infid3l[eMo]> I'm watching you =D
05:08:55 <@infid3l[eMo]> I'm Alpha Red's network admin
05:08:59 <@lifelike> looool
05:09:01 <@infid3l[eMo]> I run the network this box is on
I then realized that this AlphaRed employee thought that I had somehow hacked the machine and gained root access. This box was unmanaged, yet the employee did not consult the owner to verify that I was a legitimate user. When the employee discovered I had not hacked the box, he claimed that IRC daemons were against the AUP. Below is the only mention of IRC in the AUP:
``11. Clients running IRC daemon are required to take immediate action on notification of any botnet or suspected
DMCA activity on the server. Such action shall include immediately closing any channels related to such activity.
Clients refusing to take such action or provide access to Alpha Red to take such action will have all access to the IRC
daemon ports blocked and may be terminated without further notice.'
When I made the employee aware of this, he claimed there were complaints made about the IRC server. When I asked what the nature of the complaints were, he said he was not at liberty to discuss it. I personally doubt there were any complaints, as the IRCd was completely legitimate and exclusive.
I talked to the employee via ``wall'' messages via the root shell for a while. When I mentioned how unprofessional his way of dealing with the situation was, he told me he had control over the network and he didn't have to be professional.
While talking on the phone the employee told me I should have notified AlphaRed about running an IRCd. Nowhere in the AUP did it say anything about notifying AlphaRed. The employee acted like it was common sense -- which to me, it wasnt.
With no evidence of illegitimate activity, AlphaRed still refuses to allow an IRCd to run on our box. Even though it was their mistake, we are the ones paying for it.
AlphaRed offered no apology, and only left us inconvenienced.
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Oct 10, 2008
how many companies are exploiting the alphared fallout.
In a thread in the outage forums where alphared customers are trying to figure out what is going on, you have competition posting in there with there flashy signatures and telling them to go look at the OFFER forums where the top 5 posts have 'alphared refugees'.
It is an abomination to this community and completely irresponsible.
A company has gone down the drain, peoples DATA and possibly livelihoods has been lost and it seems the vultures have come to play, competition take over outtage threads acting as if they are giving some sort of advice but in reality are only trying to advertise there SIGNATURES which is a an advertisement. Can you say exploitation?
Is this what the world has come too? I am disgusted
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lphared Refugee - Unmetered Specials Q9300 $169, 99% Uptime, Premium Network
Northstorm | Kevin
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bummer6666 Yesterday 11:22 PM
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^^^^^^FDC ?
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AlphaRed Specials Rodney-E2
How many other companies are going to participate in the fallout and exploitation of people who have maybe lost everything?
The ANNOUNCEMENT thread in outtage forums is this
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Like this
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POSTS LIKE THIS
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Complete exploitation of one company's failure and members on this forum are completely taking advantage of the situation.
Reminds me of the shark/bankers of wall street taking advantage of every weakness they see specifically for financial gain. With the current economic crisis it makes me ashamed to be associated with the likes of these.
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Nov 6, 2008
In what appears as an even bigger mistake by alphared and I would expect some legal action against them even more. Alphared apparently will be trying trying to charge for service while the billing system and everything else was down.
How were we supposed to cancel, pay or do anything if we didn't want the service? How can they expect to have people pay for service when some of us have already moved and paid for service elsewhere?
I had confidence in them coming back, but I will for sure continue to move away. They couldn't manage the company and expect us to pay for service when we had no option to cancel.
Directly from the chat:Me: This is in a general sense, are you going to be charging everyone?Jay Merritt: It would only make sense. They have been receiving a service and support.
What are the thoughts on that, you may have moved. But you may have some bills coming your way.
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Oct 14, 2008
namely, budget prices on servers. in particular unmetered bandwidth.
steadfast and hivelocity are the two I know of, but I'm wondering if I'm missing any.
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Mar 6, 2008
Its a video and picture sharing website for India.
In the first 1-2 months, I will need around 250GB storage and 2TB bandwidth per month. After that, I will need much more. I have no idea how much I bandwidth may need. So I may go to a 50Mbps unmetered bandwidth; to limit my bandwidth cost.
My budget is around $400 per month. I want to have server(s) in west coast as it will be closer to India.
I have narrowed down to FDCServers and AlphaRed; as they both offer unmetered bandwidth for cheap. I will start with metered bandwidth and then go to unmetered bandwidth when my bandwidth demands exceeds.
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Oct 9, 2008
CWIE just walked out about 30 minutes ago. Cogent is off, and all the techs are laid off apparently.
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make sure you have data backups!
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Apr 25, 2009
I recently ordered a HP ProLiant DL180 with LeaseWeb. During pre-sales communication on April 3rd I was told that the KVM card that comes with DL180 is buggy and I won't be able to use it until HP fixes it. Considering the "strategic partnership" between LeaseWeb and HP, I thought they'd fix the problem quickly, so I went ahead and ordered the server anyway. Now it's been 3 weeks and still no word on the fix. Anyone else with a DL180 in the same situation?
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Apr 23, 2009
I want to share my history/review with leaseweb.com..
I needed a quick setup server for a Windows Media Services service, I have several servers at softlayer.com but I decided to test one of the most famous European providers leaseweb.com .
So I talked with their sales and told that I need a 24 hour setup server, I wanted only that. So the sales quickly make pay for 6 months of an express windows server. No problem until now.
24 hours later I contacted their sales, and they said that my server would be provider today or maybe tomorrow (48 hours later!)
1 day later I contacted leaseweb and they said that they didn't have any stock of hardware to make the server.
2 days after the order on this day morning I contacted their sales and setup team again and they said to me that my server would be delivered before the end of the day.
At the end of that day I contacted their sales and setup team AGAIN and they said to me that they don't have stock of windows 2008 or windows 2003 standard (? WTF ?), I talked with them for more than half an hour.
They wanted to give me for the delay a cheaper server with a windows server 2003 WEB. WHAT? A windows that don't even support windows media services and a cheaper server for their mistake?
I asked if I waited one more time if they would be able to setup any server with windows 2008 or windows 2003 standard, the answer was "we don't know"..
So let’s resume, leaseweb only works from 9am to 5.30pm European time, they can spend 4 days without hardware or windows stock ( how is that possible ) and they want to apologize with a cheaper server with a cheaper windows...
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So to any of you that have servers at leasewed.com , what will happen to you when some part of your server stop working?? You will have to wait more than 4 days for hardware stock, some days because of your windows licenses and some more weeks for support??
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I would recommend anyone to pay more for a good company, not this companies that only can support your server 5 days a week for some hours a day.
I have asked for a refund at leaseweb.com let’s see if that refund comes or not, maybe in 6 weeks?
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Nov 13, 2008
A thread titled "Leaseweb.com is very very bad!" has been closed recently "by request".
Don't know what it means. Kind of censorship?
Whatever, I'm going to tell you how they are good at Leaseweb:
They have no dectection of duplicated IPs, so they let you configure an IP belonging to somebody else on your interfaces.
If, evently, the problem is detected (somebody else complaining), instead of pulling the plug, they send you a mail, kindly asking you to remove the offending IP.
So they are very good at Leaseweb. They forgive your errors and let you experiment with the network.
And what about "somebody else" having his web site down during several days waiting for you to correct your mistakes?
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Aug 2, 2008
is there any one that have used LEASEWEB? Im gonna start buying a dedi server from them and I want to know if its an seriuos company..
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