Shared Vs Semi Dedicated
Sep 7, 2008
What are the advantages of a semi dedicated account over a shared account.
So far it just looks like a bigger shared account (though comparable when you compare it to an oversold shared account). It's more expensive though so does it relieve some of the load issues (and CPU/memory limits) placed in a shared account?
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Apr 21, 2008
choosing an appropriate webhost solution. I'll be launching a site that will initially serve around 3000-4000 pageviews per day (say 2000-2500 uniques per day) but will go well over 10-15K eventually. Pretty small based on that metric. With just PHP (no dynamic content), my shared host has handled that fairly well for an existing site.
However, this site will need to track search queries...so, each page will do a simple MySQL lookup and either upgrade a count or do a small insert. Again, very simple stuff but not sure how this affect performance and CPU load. Still, I know my provider has pretty low thresholds on max db concurrent connections and they've loaded my server with lots of other sites recently. I'd rather not take a chance after launching.
Based on that simple operation, would you recommend moving to a managed VPS or possibly a semi-dedicated server? The traffic still sounds low but I'm just not sure of the mysql effect
If VPS, it seems like 512M memory should be the minimum for this setup or could I get away with something smaller, like 384M/256M?
I've read good things about MediaLayer's "application hosting" but it still sounds just like shared hosting.
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Oct 25, 2009
From reading a good lot of posts here, I can see that HostGator seems to be a good company and that many have a good feedback to give about it. I've also been reading that you should avoid overselling, though understand that some companies, even though they offer "Unlimited space and bandwidth", they can manage it well. I guess HostGator falls in that category too. My questions here:
1) So what are the conditions under which it is okay to go for a company that offers unlimited space and bandwidth? (Expecting answers like 'if you just have a few blogs and don't require...')
I have read (here and elsewhere) that for most people's requirements, a shared web hosting would do. However, for someone a with a little more web baggage (individuals, not businesses), it is generally advised that they look at semi-dedicated hosting plans.
2) Based on the above quoted, objectively, what are the things that you should look at (like traffic per day etc) and what should be their values (for e.g. like 15000 uniques per day etc) while considering moving from sharing to semi-dedicated plans? I think some of them are the following, can you give me approximate values for these when I should consider the move?
a) Traffic
b) Number of active websites
c) Sites with heavy resource usage. (Can you give me some examples of this?)
d)...
What else am I missing in this list?
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May 13, 2008
what is the minimum/maximum number of users usually hosted on shared and semi-dedicated servers?
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Aug 10, 2008
I want a host for a site running gallery2 with about 2.000 UV + 20.000 page views daily.
Just got suspended because high load in shared hosting.
Now one VPS with 256MB of RAM can running good with my site.
But in next time, may the visitors still increasing.
In this case, semi-dedicated or VPS is better for me?
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Aug 3, 2007
I am in the middle of rebuilding a website for a large magazine. The site currently averages 2 million hits a month, and uses about 10 GB of bandwidth a month. The site has always been on a shared Windows hosting plan, however I feel it has outgrown the shared environment.
The company can't afford a dedicated server, so I am looking for a "middle ground". Now that the company is doing e-mail marketing to an opt-in list of over 50,000 people, and a shared environment simply can't handle that kind of mailing volume.
I am not picky about hosting platform, though I am more familiar with Linux, cPanel, etc. I also have no clue about server management, so I'd need a managed solution.
My question, is what is the difference between semi-dedicated and VPS, and which would you suggest for my needs? Also, can anyone suggest a reliable host that offers fully managed services for less than $100/month?
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Jun 3, 2008
I am just wondering if it is possible to host streaming video files on semi-dedicated servers?
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Aug 30, 2009
In a few months I will be searching for a semi-dedicated plan, I'm going to spend around $230 a year. I would go with my current host on semi-dedicated but their plan is about 2 to 3 times over my price.
My site is currently on a shared hosting plan is doing fairly well but I'm also looking to expand the site and therefore I will need a semi-dedicated plan.
I'm not familiar with semi-dedicated since I have always used shared hosting and have a few sites on different shared hosting plans. So any tips you can provide when searching for a semi-dedicated or questions I can ask would really be helpful.
Now I know there is a offers section here on WHT but I'm not looking for offers, I'm looking for recommendations from users who have used a semi-dedicated plan that's around my price range. I'm not looking for dedicated, nor VPS, just semi-dedicated. I will be purchasing a semi-dedicated plan around November of this year.
I'm no newb to shared hosting but I am new and unfamiliar with what to look for in semi-dedicated hosting plans.
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Oct 9, 2009
What is the difference between VPS and semi-dedicated server? Which one is better?
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Feb 15, 2009
I am currently using hostmonster.com and I've noticed that my service is starting to go downhill. The site is taking longer to load and I've read that in some cases they will terminate your account without notifications.
I am a photographer and my website will be growing in the future. I am looking for a site that I can host my high res images and maybe video streaming for my wedding events. Should I go with a semi-dedicated server?
What are some cheap reputable semi-dedicated hosting companies?
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Jun 1, 2008
I just found out there is such a thing as semi dedicated hosting. I think this will work well for me. I was hoping that someone out there could recommend a company that is reliable and honest, has good support, does not oversell, and finally, a company that is reasonably priced. Even better, it would be great if the hosting company was one that could really work with me to determine my needs as I go along as I am extremely limited in any techincal knowledge. I really don't understand 99% of the verbage that is associated with all this stuff and if left to my own devices, I really would not be able to convey my needs or even know what my needs are. I feel lucky if I even know of 1 or 2 questions to ask.
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Dec 19, 2008
I run an on-line forum on a shared hosting account, which I'm beginning to outgrow.
Last month's statistics shows an approximate average of 40 concurrent users, approximately 200 megabytes of used hard drive space, and approximately 15 gigabytes of used data traffic. I like my current web host, but their next step up is a dedicated server account. From what I understand, a dedicated server account requires extensive UNIX knowledge, which I lack.
I'm thinking what I would like is a semi-dedicated server, which from what I understand is basically a shared hosting account with larger accomodations. I'd like something that runs some varient of the UNIX operating system, and gives my on-line forum a decent amount of room to grow if necessary. Budget wise, I'm willing to pay up to $80 per month.
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Jun 26, 2008
For people who don't need the full power of a dedicated server yet wish to avoid shared hosting and VPS, it seems attractive to cost-share a dedicated server with others. Does anyone have any advice for how to find suitable partners?
In our case, we're leaving LayeredTech because our dedicated server rose from $75 to $111 via two recent price increases. We can get a much faster server for less money.
However, our CPU load is under 20% on our old Layered Tech Sempron 2600 server. This makes dedicated a bit overkill.
You may be thinking "become a reseller". However, I'd like to avoid getting into that business. So I'd appreciate any advice on how to find 1 or 2 people who would also like a semi-dedicated server.
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Sep 10, 2007
As you can see I have questions. Until I saw and read some posts on this forum I thought I had some answers...
I was looking into a VPS with 1and1.com
Seemed to have good stats, and is a fairly large company. The plans were nice, was going to start off on their VPS 2 package with 20GB/2000GB, 245MB ram burstable to 512MB. All was well, since their packages seemed to offer the most for the least, if you know what I mean. I also liked the ability to upgrade the package without interrupting my service.
I read some posts here, and looked into a VPS even more, and now Im not so sure about 1and1.com or the thought of even having a VPS.
I have no experience with a VPS. So running it would be all new. Im not computer illiterate and I have taken many network and network operating classes. So I have some experience with command line linux. I have messed with some IIS, and a LAMP. On the other side, it scares me that I could f**k something up and bring down the site.
Now, for my needs. The site when launched has a predicted demand of a few thousand users over the course of a month. This is a business site, so downtime, and a shared environment don't seem to make sense. The site is very mysql intensive, at least by my standards. Most pages have 3-6 queries, main pages can have 10+, and most user actions include a few queries. The most load I could fathom would be all 1,000-4,000 users hitting the site hard for 3-4 days. This is now, next 'season' could be twice that load. In between seasons seasons we were going back to shared until the site starts making more money, and we fill in the off season with some other money making service.
The reason why I thought VPS was budget, and just we wouldnt want to be on a shared hosting plan, and somehow our demand was larger than expected and they shut down the site. So do yall think that a VPS is the right way to go? We have the budget to go VPS($40-$80) a month for 3 months, before going back to shared.
About 1and1.com: I read a few threads, some recent, that seem to say they oversell even a VPS. This doesnt make much sense since its supposed to gaurente those resources to me. The company is so big, but even these few posts and accusations are keeping me from commiting. My main concern is that between when we launch it and when our first spike of demand hits is only 2 months, so I dont want to learn that 1and1.com sucks firsthand.
Ive seen other hosts that this forum sponsers, so I assume there is *some* prefernce to use them, but like jaguarpc.com VPS plans seem to be a little more $ for a little less (storage and bandwidth) when comparing to other deals.
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Sep 8, 2008
I have an account that is going from a shared hosting account to a dedicated with theplanet and I want to transfer it. Concerns I have is that the site is using an SSL. What things do I need to watch out for when transferring. Since I don't have root access I will have to do this transfer with the account function, correct?
This site has a database and SSL, so I thought it would hopefully be easier to use the cpanel account migration tool
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Apr 7, 2009
I use shared web hosting service to get my website online. I'm wondering how many people use dedicated servers or virtual private servers instead and pay from $20 to several hundreds of dollars? Will I face any big problem with shared web hosting package which makes me choose dedicated servers?
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Oct 22, 2008
I would like to start a site for a gaming community. It will cover a few upcoming mods, so I don't know what to expect at the moment in terms of how much space/bandwidth I need.
The mods support the redirect feature, where if the player does not have the next map, it is automatically downloaded. This is where a portion of the site comes in. I would like to offer the downloadable content (maps/skins/etc.). Maybe looking at multiple users (possibly up to 20) downloading maps around 10-30MB each.
So what would be the best type of host to use in this case? Can I get away with using a cheaper host (shared, VPS)?
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Nov 11, 2008
I have a web site. It's getting 15-20K visitors per day. I am using wordpress with wp-super-cache in this site. My hosting account always suspending due using lot of system resources. I guess i need to more than shared hosting.
What should be my choice?
I am thinking buy a VPS with at least 512MB ram. Is this enough for my web site? Should i buy more ram or a dedicated?
Also, do you have a recommendation for VPS or dedicated. My budget is not large. Is this enough 30/40$ per month for this web site?
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Nov 23, 2008
creating a site where people will be able to upload videos (haha its much more specific like that lol not like YouTube or anything).
Anyway i've played around with shared hosting for a while, numerous other projects of mine, and all of them seem to have limits on how long a script can run etc.
So say I want users to be able to upload videos up to around 100MB, on a normal shared host they wouldn't be able to do this right? Mainly because the script would time out or CPU usage would be too high? The site is pretty targeted, so I'm not really expecting that many videos to be uploaded, and old ones could be deleted after use.
My question is, to do this properly, do i need to look into a dedicated server? I really don't know much about hosting etc, but it seems that most shared hosts have heavy restrictions on CPU usage.
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Jun 18, 2008
We just set up our current dedicated server and have an ip address. When we created the user account on plesk, we dedicated the ip address to that website. My questions is we would like to add another website to this server and if we change the current dedicate IP address to a shared IP address for the new website, will it mess anything up with our server, how search engines see our site or how the dns or domain name gets forward to our server?
My understanding is you only really need a dedicate IP for either ssl or anoyomous ftp.
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Jul 12, 2007
I have a VPS and my main account has its own IP that it can share with two IPs for customer nameservers.
What is the best way to deal with Resellers? Give them their own dedicated IP and two IPs for nameservers or just make them share the original three?
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Dec 13, 2007
I'm planning to launch a user submitted news site tailored for my country and since i've been a coder all my life i know very little about hosting.
Money is a bit of a problem, i want to know whether is it a good idea to start off with a shared hosting and then move on to dedicated hosting as the site grows. I dont want to dump money in dedicated servers at the begining only to find out that me and my buddies are the only ones using the site.
I have a few options at hand. godaddy,bluehost,lunarpages etc... but i really liked the grid computing deal from mediatemple.net (100GB, 1000GB for $20/mo + scalability)
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Aug 25, 2007
I have a reseller account with cPanel and WHM.
I purchased the extra "dedicated" ip address for my use. I understand it is dedicated exclusively to my accounts, but shared between each of my accounts...
The provider also provides a "shared" ip. I understand that if I did not have my own dedicated ip, then I would use this ip and it would be shared between my accounts, and among all the other accounts on his server...
My question pertains to the way WHM initializes a new account. It assigns the company shared ip to each of my new domain accounts, instead of my dedicated ip.
Pinging the newly created domain account results in seeing the company shared ip - not my dedicated ip.
Is this correct? I think WHM should be assigning my dedicated ip, and ping should show my dedicated ip.
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Jun 9, 2009
I recently inherited the responsibilities of 2 websites and will be in charge of creating 2 more.
Of these 4 websites, only 2 have serious traffic. The current site, made in Drupal, peaked at 3,000 unique visitors a day and on average receives about 500 uniques a day. This site will most likely be the highest in traffic.
My boss would like to know if dedicated hosting is necessary (I'm the entire IT department), I should be on shared hosting correct?
The 4 websites will be built upon the following platforms:
Drupal
WordPress
PHP
TWiki (open source Wiki web collaboration platform)
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Sep 26, 2009
does SSL really need a dedicated ip? Can it be installed on the shared ip? I want that domains in the shared ip, when accessing cpanel using port 2083, they will not encounter the message "This Connection is Untrusted"
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Oct 8, 2008
Do you think that cloud/grid hosting is going to replace shared hosting and dedicated?
I do see the advantages for hosting in some aspects.
Shared works only for small sites, once the client grows his site he needs dedi but its to complicated, people need a website running, most people dont want to handle servers configs, maintaince, etc. Cloud hosting is perfect here, you can escalate when you need it. Even if your dedi with cloud you can escalate more. I see a big advantage into this, since someone can only pay for what he uses. You can fit all models, shared or dedi with cloud since you have very low processing accounts and very intensive ones using several servers.
But then again i see its disadvantages. Software for cloud is to expensive for hosting companies, it requires the latest and biggest from virtualization software and licenses are expensive, which makes the cloud hosting expensive to end client in this business.
It seems also the market is not really ready for it. It doesn't seem to have the best performance yet but is does has scalability.
I also see that most companies make profit of people paying for something and not using
it at all, with cloud hosting that doesn't make sense. Like most people that pay a flat rate for their cell phones but don't use to the last minute each month. A hosting company even if it doesn't oversell their accounts has a better profit of people paying all the same prices, this balances out for people that use to much and you cover the costs with those that don't use anything. With cloud each one would pay exactly what he needs. Said that, you would not make to much profit, since you would have people paying allot less then just buying your minimum plans and not using all the functions.
Do you think cloud hosting will eventually be the main stream offer from hosting providers, replacing the existing shared and dedicated hosting offerings, or will it be a combination or mix of all solutions? It escalates perfectly but it comes with a cost.
You think people prefer to pay every penny they use or just have a fixed cost and know they are ok if they ever need to use it, even if they will not?
I think allot of consumers would not like the idea of being nickel and dime to death instead of paying a fixed amount per month, and profit for company is not that great with this system. Thats the main disadvantage i see it. But i see a very big market for people running very intensive websites that dont have the experience or time to manage a server or cant pay the managed dedi offers that are to costly like rackspace. Shared is simple, they only have to handle their account not the server. Cloud is the same here, except you can the power of dedi without the extras that come with it. As i see it, cloud benefits intensive clients but not people that only need a simple account for hosting a site and using email once per day.
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Aug 7, 2008
and upload more than one website on the same IP. Now, is it still remains a dedicated ip or becomes shared ip.
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Dec 16, 2008
about dedicated and shared hosting.
How can we check any website hosted in dedicated or shared ip.
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Jan 27, 2007
I've been seeing shared plans with like 200GB space, 1000GB+ bandwidth for like $30.
Then the same company Offers dedicated servers for like $100.
Now 200GB and 1000+gb is more than the usual dedicated. So if your the host, why would anyne buy you dedicated over your shared. Your pretty much offering a dedicated at a shared price.
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Oct 22, 2009
How do we check if the bandwidth provided by our server provider is shared or dedicated?
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Mar 16, 2009
How long should I expect my website to be down when I switch from shared to dedicated ip?
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