Dedicated Vs Shared IP Addresses ..
Aug 25, 2007
I have a reseller account with cPanel and WHM.
I purchased the extra "dedicated" ip address for my use. I understand it is dedicated exclusively to my accounts, but shared between each of my accounts...
The provider also provides a "shared" ip. I understand that if I did not have my own dedicated ip, then I would use this ip and it would be shared between my accounts, and among all the other accounts on his server...
My question pertains to the way WHM initializes a new account. It assigns the company shared ip to each of my new domain accounts, instead of my dedicated ip.
Pinging the newly created domain account results in seeing the company shared ip - not my dedicated ip.
Is this correct? I think WHM should be assigning my dedicated ip, and ping should show my dedicated ip.
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May 17, 2008
I'm setting up a cPanel server and have an initial 5 IPs with the server. By default, it assigned two IPs to the nameservers, but I'm getting a bit confused as to best practice policies. Is it a bad idea to have your nameserver IPs being used for accounts?
I imagine the answer is yes, it is a bad idea, as I've not seen it done by others. I would guess the biggest reason would be that you wouldn't want a bad acocunt to get the IP blocked.
I'd like to hear opinions on the matter, as cPanel seems to be set up to automatically assign the first IP available to both the default account IP and the first nameserver.
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Oct 30, 2009
I have 2 sites hosted on one host that ive had for about 3 weeks. One site has been around 7 months while the other site i built after i bought the new host.
Ive had reports this week that some people are finding it hard to get onto my new site, one told me today "it takes 20mins to load" and they were not exaggerating, another said 'the link is broken' after i twittered it. But when i try my site, it 100% always works and loads within 1 minute.
So would it be worth my while to buy a dedicated ip, and do i buy one from the host itself? As im unsure how it all works. Or shall i sit here and watch ppl complain on the other sites i run about how they cant access my new site
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Oct 4, 2008
I have just purchased a dedicated server with CPanel and 6 dedicated IP addresses to host a few websites of my clients including my own website. My server is assigned the first IP address i.e. IP1.00.00.00.
I would like to have my own private name servers along with dedicated IP addresses for my own website (xyz.com) and my client website.
I purchased a domain xyz.com and created my own name servers by using the first 2 IP addresses.
Ns1.xyz.com - IP1.00.00.00
Ns2.xyz.com - IP2.00.00.00
Q1) Now will the first IP address (IP1.00.00.00) create any issue as it is assigned to both nameserver-1 and my own server? Or shall I change the IP address of my server to IP3.00.00.00?
Q2) I would like my own website i.e. xyz.com to have a dedicated IP address as well. So shall I use one more IP address i.e. IP4.00.00.00 for my own domain (xyz.com) or is it not required?
Q3) My client website also requires a dedicated IP address. I have sent him the nameserver details for him to point his domain at my newly created name servers i.e. Ns1.xyz.com and Ns2.xyz.com
Q4) Now shall I assign the fifth IP address i.e. IP5.00.00.00 for my client's domain? Or when his domain points to my name servers (having unique IP addresses) - another dedicated IP (IP5) is not required for his domain? Please suggest.
Now IP1 and IP2 are being used as nameservers.
IP1 is associated with my server as well
IP4 for my own domain xyz.com (or is it not required as IP1 is assigned to Ns1.xyz.com)
IP5 for my client's website
Q5) Is the above distribution of IP addresses between name servers, my own domain and my client domain correct?
I am sorry I have little knowledge about these IP addresses and name servers.
My idea is to assign a dedicated IP address to my own website (xyz.com) and my client's website along with having 2 IPs reserved for my private name serves.
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Sep 8, 2008
I have an account that is going from a shared hosting account to a dedicated with theplanet and I want to transfer it. Concerns I have is that the site is using an SSL. What things do I need to watch out for when transferring. Since I don't have root access I will have to do this transfer with the account function, correct?
This site has a database and SSL, so I thought it would hopefully be easier to use the cpanel account migration tool
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Apr 17, 2008
2 ips are given when I will book a dedicated server, right? Out of the 2 ips given to me, one would point to the server. So, what is the second one for and when does it get used?
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Jul 25, 2008
I currently have a dedicated server company which will go unnamed. I'm wanting to change to a different server, but they won't let me keep my IP addresses. Do you all think this is pretty standard across the board, or is it just the provider I'm with? I guess I should have done my homework more before signing up, but I personally find this totally inconvenient to the customer. It makes me feel as if my provider doesn't care about me.
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Oct 30, 2008
Hello guys, I have been a longtime lurker (too long ) and I look forward to becoming an active member on the site...
I am still in the process of researching a reliable web hosting company. It has been a blessing and a curse to have so many choices. I plan to host multiple ecommerce websites (5) and will need SSL encryption. I have looked at Hostgator as a possible candidate, but their business package has just one dedicated IP address...
If I am running 5 seperate ecommerce websites, will I need 5 seperate dedicated IP addresses in order to utilize SSL for each individual site? My suspicion is yes due to security purposes...
Also what are good SSL certificates? RapidSSL appears to be a cheaper one, but is it the same as other certificate issuers? Or is buying certs equivalant to buying domains; just but the cheapest ones....
Thanks again guys... Just curious on what my options are. I'm "starting" out and testing the waters so to speak so a dedicated server or higher cost solution is out of the question yet. I would like to find a good quality shared server hosting plan with a reputable company who doesn't overloard servers for profit....
Any ideas what you guys would recommend with the above mentioned... ixwebhosting appears perfect for my needs due to the fact you get 8 dedicated IP's (so they say), but I have read nothing but bad things about them + the price is too good to be true...
When I hear the words "Unlimited" I want to run.. Unlimited and Cheap... LOL *rolls eyes* Want quality, fair price, for the above mentioned items...
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Jan 3, 2009
Due to some of my projects I am looking for a good Dedicated server hosting provider who can offer Muliples IP addressess from different IP Pools.
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Nov 10, 2008
There are lots of hosts who can give you IPs on different blocks. You should easily be able to find one hosting account that can do this. Of course, you'll need to get a low-end dedicated or colo server to do that, but the IP address thing is no big deal. With the money you would be spending, you're well within the range of a low-end dedicated anyway.
Hi Eric,
I know this thread is old BUT...
This comment interests me a lot, and I hope that somebody can clarify for me that does 50 IPs on one dedicated server require multiple routers (like 2x IPs per router?) to manage all of the IP's communicating with the dedicated server?
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Aug 2, 2008
I have a small webstore with a SSL encryption for securing the site. But the SSL certificate is setup for the www.somethingstupidurl.com, and not just somethingstupidurl.com. The www.somethingstupidurl.com is validating well, but I get the warning of a possible "bad" site on the somethingstupidurl.com (not validating).
And I know a wildcard SSL will fix this. But I was wodering about is if I can use multiple servers with with several dedicated IPs? I have several subdomains which I would like to secure, but bying SSLs for each will be more expsensive than a wildcard. These subdomains are also located on several servers that have their own dedicated IPs, and I would like to be sure a wildcard would be the right thing to go for.
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Nov 25, 2008
Dedicated IP shows cpanel great success page!
i have a dedicated server running cpanel whm and i most sites have a single main shared ip.
When i assign a dedicated ip to new user account in cpanel, the domain points to cpanel great success page. The site doesnt load. Strangely, if i type dedicated.ip in the browser, the site loads fine.
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Aug 29, 2008
I need a dedicated server sometime in the future and I was wondering if I should use Virtuozzo or Hypervm and how much can I get a dual core or quad core with good support? Thank you for your time.
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Apr 7, 2009
I use shared web hosting service to get my website online. I'm wondering how many people use dedicated servers or virtual private servers instead and pay from $20 to several hundreds of dollars? Will I face any big problem with shared web hosting package which makes me choose dedicated servers?
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Oct 22, 2008
I would like to start a site for a gaming community. It will cover a few upcoming mods, so I don't know what to expect at the moment in terms of how much space/bandwidth I need.
The mods support the redirect feature, where if the player does not have the next map, it is automatically downloaded. This is where a portion of the site comes in. I would like to offer the downloadable content (maps/skins/etc.). Maybe looking at multiple users (possibly up to 20) downloading maps around 10-30MB each.
So what would be the best type of host to use in this case? Can I get away with using a cheaper host (shared, VPS)?
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Nov 11, 2008
I have a web site. It's getting 15-20K visitors per day. I am using wordpress with wp-super-cache in this site. My hosting account always suspending due using lot of system resources. I guess i need to more than shared hosting.
What should be my choice?
I am thinking buy a VPS with at least 512MB ram. Is this enough for my web site? Should i buy more ram or a dedicated?
Also, do you have a recommendation for VPS or dedicated. My budget is not large. Is this enough 30/40$ per month for this web site?
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Nov 23, 2008
creating a site where people will be able to upload videos (haha its much more specific like that lol not like YouTube or anything).
Anyway i've played around with shared hosting for a while, numerous other projects of mine, and all of them seem to have limits on how long a script can run etc.
So say I want users to be able to upload videos up to around 100MB, on a normal shared host they wouldn't be able to do this right? Mainly because the script would time out or CPU usage would be too high? The site is pretty targeted, so I'm not really expecting that many videos to be uploaded, and old ones could be deleted after use.
My question is, to do this properly, do i need to look into a dedicated server? I really don't know much about hosting etc, but it seems that most shared hosts have heavy restrictions on CPU usage.
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Jun 18, 2008
We just set up our current dedicated server and have an ip address. When we created the user account on plesk, we dedicated the ip address to that website. My questions is we would like to add another website to this server and if we change the current dedicate IP address to a shared IP address for the new website, will it mess anything up with our server, how search engines see our site or how the dns or domain name gets forward to our server?
My understanding is you only really need a dedicate IP for either ssl or anoyomous ftp.
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Jul 12, 2007
I have a VPS and my main account has its own IP that it can share with two IPs for customer nameservers.
What is the best way to deal with Resellers? Give them their own dedicated IP and two IPs for nameservers or just make them share the original three?
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Dec 13, 2007
I'm planning to launch a user submitted news site tailored for my country and since i've been a coder all my life i know very little about hosting.
Money is a bit of a problem, i want to know whether is it a good idea to start off with a shared hosting and then move on to dedicated hosting as the site grows. I dont want to dump money in dedicated servers at the begining only to find out that me and my buddies are the only ones using the site.
I have a few options at hand. godaddy,bluehost,lunarpages etc... but i really liked the grid computing deal from mediatemple.net (100GB, 1000GB for $20/mo + scalability)
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Jun 9, 2009
I recently inherited the responsibilities of 2 websites and will be in charge of creating 2 more.
Of these 4 websites, only 2 have serious traffic. The current site, made in Drupal, peaked at 3,000 unique visitors a day and on average receives about 500 uniques a day. This site will most likely be the highest in traffic.
My boss would like to know if dedicated hosting is necessary (I'm the entire IT department), I should be on shared hosting correct?
The 4 websites will be built upon the following platforms:
Drupal
WordPress
PHP
TWiki (open source Wiki web collaboration platform)
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Sep 26, 2009
does SSL really need a dedicated ip? Can it be installed on the shared ip? I want that domains in the shared ip, when accessing cpanel using port 2083, they will not encounter the message "This Connection is Untrusted"
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Oct 8, 2008
Do you think that cloud/grid hosting is going to replace shared hosting and dedicated?
I do see the advantages for hosting in some aspects.
Shared works only for small sites, once the client grows his site he needs dedi but its to complicated, people need a website running, most people dont want to handle servers configs, maintaince, etc. Cloud hosting is perfect here, you can escalate when you need it. Even if your dedi with cloud you can escalate more. I see a big advantage into this, since someone can only pay for what he uses. You can fit all models, shared or dedi with cloud since you have very low processing accounts and very intensive ones using several servers.
But then again i see its disadvantages. Software for cloud is to expensive for hosting companies, it requires the latest and biggest from virtualization software and licenses are expensive, which makes the cloud hosting expensive to end client in this business.
It seems also the market is not really ready for it. It doesn't seem to have the best performance yet but is does has scalability.
I also see that most companies make profit of people paying for something and not using
it at all, with cloud hosting that doesn't make sense. Like most people that pay a flat rate for their cell phones but don't use to the last minute each month. A hosting company even if it doesn't oversell their accounts has a better profit of people paying all the same prices, this balances out for people that use to much and you cover the costs with those that don't use anything. With cloud each one would pay exactly what he needs. Said that, you would not make to much profit, since you would have people paying allot less then just buying your minimum plans and not using all the functions.
Do you think cloud hosting will eventually be the main stream offer from hosting providers, replacing the existing shared and dedicated hosting offerings, or will it be a combination or mix of all solutions? It escalates perfectly but it comes with a cost.
You think people prefer to pay every penny they use or just have a fixed cost and know they are ok if they ever need to use it, even if they will not?
I think allot of consumers would not like the idea of being nickel and dime to death instead of paying a fixed amount per month, and profit for company is not that great with this system. Thats the main disadvantage i see it. But i see a very big market for people running very intensive websites that dont have the experience or time to manage a server or cant pay the managed dedi offers that are to costly like rackspace. Shared is simple, they only have to handle their account not the server. Cloud is the same here, except you can the power of dedi without the extras that come with it. As i see it, cloud benefits intensive clients but not people that only need a simple account for hosting a site and using email once per day.
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Aug 7, 2008
and upload more than one website on the same IP. Now, is it still remains a dedicated ip or becomes shared ip.
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Sep 7, 2008
What are the advantages of a semi dedicated account over a shared account.
So far it just looks like a bigger shared account (though comparable when you compare it to an oversold shared account). It's more expensive though so does it relieve some of the load issues (and CPU/memory limits) placed in a shared account?
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Dec 16, 2008
about dedicated and shared hosting.
How can we check any website hosted in dedicated or shared ip.
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Jan 27, 2007
I've been seeing shared plans with like 200GB space, 1000GB+ bandwidth for like $30.
Then the same company Offers dedicated servers for like $100.
Now 200GB and 1000+gb is more than the usual dedicated. So if your the host, why would anyne buy you dedicated over your shared. Your pretty much offering a dedicated at a shared price.
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Oct 22, 2009
How do we check if the bandwidth provided by our server provider is shared or dedicated?
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Mar 16, 2009
How long should I expect my website to be down when I switch from shared to dedicated ip?
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Jan 8, 2009
Presently, my site is hosted at ICDsoft business shared account
And my site is hosted on "two Quad-core Xeon processors, 8 GB RAM and a multi-terabyte RAID 6 disk array."
I am planning on moving away from a shared account.
My site is an ecommerce site and my budget for a new server is around $100-$150 per month.
Should i transfer to a VPS or Dedicated server ?
I need a Full/complete managed server, either it be VPS or Dedicated. I dont want to get involved in setting up, securing etc. the server. I would like a Control Panel, be it Cpanel or any other with Linux System.
Also, my main concern is, how much bandwidth should be good for an ecommerce site with around 20,000 unique visitors per month, around 500,000 hits per month
I am looking into the following companies which provides VPS and Dedicated solutions:
1). Liquidweb
2). DedicatedNOW
3). Wiredtree
Are there any other companies i should look into?
Which company would be the best in terms of service and support response time? Im spoiled by ICDSoft's quick response time
Also, How much RAM would be good, since most VPS solutions have 512 to 786 MB ram?
How many Cores- Dual, Quad?
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