Level3 Reliable Enough As ONLY Carrier

Sep 14, 2009

We are switching from a reseller that blends several carriers to Level3, to reduce our b/w costs (by a factor of 3x). We are driving upwards of 300Mbps currently.

Is Level3 reliable enough in terms of uptime to be our *only* carrier?

We are running a real-time always-on service with long-lived TCP connections, so frequent disconnections would be problematic. A single downtime of a couple of minutes per month would not be too bad on the other hand.

Switching our stuff to Level3 is a lot of work as it is.

Getting a second provider for the failover, which involves setting up a CISCO edge router with BGP, getting an AS number from ARIN, will make this task too big at this point. Is L3 reliable enough on its own to spare this hassle of a second ISP?

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Just wondering what problems a listing here will cause for emails
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rejected emails to some or all other networks?

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I do not believe they will pay the express removal, not sure if they even knew about the listing until it was pointed out to them.

Details from site..

What means listed at UCEPROTECT-Level 3?

GAME OVER. We and our users have seen enough spam and heared all possible excusions why some lazy providers think to be not responsible for what their customers are doing.

We are not just another blacklist. We really know better. Massive spam is always a problem tolerated by the provider.

Your abuser / user ratio is exorbitant high. We expect some minimum standards from soneone claiming to be a professional provider.

Due to the facts that you do not reach our standards, we and many of our users have chosen to no longer allow smtp-traffic from all your IP's and ranges. See above what we are willig to tolerate as a maximum by an provider of your size.

In todays Internet it is no longer acceptable to sit down and wait for abuse to happen.

If you want to become an accepted provider with a good reputation, you will have to install preventive measures.

Click here to see what you can do to prevent spam coming from your ranges.

If you think it is not your job to prevent your IP's flooding the world with spams, we hope that you and your users will enjoy your Intranet.

How can our total ip-space be removed from UCEPROTECT-Level 3?

You can not expect to get a free ride because you are the provider. Our standard removal procedures are also valid for you.

After you have fixed the problems, the UCEPROTECT-Level 3 listing will be removed automatically and free of charge as soon as the causal Level 1 listings will expire.

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