Long-live Apache Processes
May 1, 2009
I have some problems with apache.
As you can see below, long-live httpd processes use a lot of CPU / Ram.
Usually this processes caused high LA - 8-12.
Code:
%CPU CPU NI S TIME COMMAND
0.2 - 0 S 00:00:27 nginx: worker process
0.3 - 0 S 00:00:29 nginx: worker process
0.3 - 0 S 00:00:30 nginx: worker process
3.3 - 0 S 00:04:09 /usr/local/apache/bin/httpd -k start -DSSL
3.4 - 0 S 00:04:16 /usr/local/apache/bin/httpd -k start -DSSL
3.5 - 0 S 00:05:50 /usr/local/apache/bin/httpd -k start -DSSL
3.6 - 0 S 00:05:40 /usr/local/apache/bin/httpd -k start -DSSL
3.6 - 0 S 00:05:16 /usr/local/apache/bin/httpd -k start -DSSL
3.6 - 0 S 00:06:04 /usr/local/apache/bin/httpd -k start -DSSL
3.7 - 0 S 00:06:06 /usr/local/apache/bin/httpd -k start -DSSL
3.7 - 0 S 00:00:55 /usr/local/apache/bin/httpd -k start -DSSL
3.7 - 0 S 00:06:10 /usr/local/apache/bin/httpd -k start -DSSL
3.7 - 0 S 00:06:10 /usr/local/apache/bin/httpd -k start -DSSL
3.7 - 0 S 00:06:10 /usr/local/apache/bin/httpd -k start -DSSL
3.8 - 0 S 00:06:12 /usr/local/apache/bin/httpd -k start -DSSL
3.8 - 0 S 00:05:40 /usr/local/apache/bin/httpd -k start -DSSL
3.9 - 0 S 00:06:28 /usr/local/apache/bin/httpd -k start -DSSL
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Feb 13, 2007
I'm not sure I understand the server-status page enough to know if this is a problem or not, but I have several processes that seem to run forever, or until I restart Apache. e.g.
Code:
13-1 21045 0/697/4264 W 59.45 19641 0 0.0 43.28 274.97 66.249.66.133 www.example.com GET /wp/2005/01/ HTTP/1.1
19-1 408 1/834/1831 C 83.52 32463 0 14.8 149.66 263.48 66.249.66.133 www.example.com GET /wp/ HTTP/1.1
30-1 14416 0/430/431 W 35.19 13347 0 0.0 37.42 37.44 66.249.66.133 www.example.com GET /wp/category/issues/ HTTP/1.1
They are almost always on a single domain (there's about 100 on the server) that's a Wordpress site. These processes are also almost always a search engine.
On the rare case I see them running on other domains on the same server they're always on Wordpress sites.
The longer the processes run, the more processor/memory they use, the more they slow the server down.
It seems to have just started in the past few weeks, I've had the site there for a couple years.
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Jul 21, 2008
why I have long processes on these two? (time wise)
7712 named 15 0 40088 39M 1688 S 1.1 1.9 50:33 0 named
13 root 15 0 0 0 0 SW 0.1 0.0 29:35 0 kjournald
iowait goes up and down too, along with server loads load average: 2.19, 2.76, 4.31
Do you think I need to change ext3 to ext2?
If so here's my fstab, which bits do I need to change?
LABEL=/ / ext3 defaults,usrquota 1 1
LABEL=/boot /boot ext3 defaults 1 2
none /dev/pts devpts gid=5,mode=620 0 0
none /proc proc defaults 0 0
none /dev/shm tmpfs defaults 0 0
/dev/hda2 swap swap defaults 0 0
/usr/tmpDSK /tmp ext3 defaults,noauto 0 0
/tmp /var/tmp ext3 defaults,bind,noauto 0 0
Or should I troubleshoot for something else? If so how/what should I do?
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How long does rebuilding Apache normally take?
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I have small issue with load speed of pages when number of apache running processes goes over +-310, during peak traffic of day. IE: They load really slow.
Here's pic of what I mean:
=> [url]
Only thing that fixes it temporarily (at least until peak traffic ends) is to stop either httpd or mysql for several seconds, as everything cools down, then start it back up. Stop/starting mysql usually has longer terms temporary fix.
Anyway, would you have any ideas on what to configure or change within the system in order to keep the processes under 300?
The load is normal. Even at load 40, pages are blistering fast, as long as processes are under 300. So it's got nothing to do with load.
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Apache keeps increasing processes and when it reaches 256 value, it crashes. These are the values from our conf file. This doenst happen everyday, it occurs once or twice a week and at random timing.
Timeout 120
KeepAlive Off
MaxKeepAliveRequests 100
KeepAliveTimeout 15
<IfModule prefork.c>
StartServers 8
MinSpareServers 5
MaxSpareServers 20
ServerLimit 256
MaxClients 256
MaxRequestsPerChild 4000
</IfModule>
I enabled server-status and found request for index.html, is holding the processes. Only thing i see in access logs is ""OPTIONS * HTTP/1.0" 200 - "-" "Apache (internal dummy connection)""
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Mar 22, 2008
I do a ps aux, and get a bunch of:
/usr/sbin/httpd
Each one takes up like 4% of the available ram - and when the ram is gone, the server dies (it doesn't have a swap file - half the time you can't even log in to it), and you have to reboot Apache.
I thought of limiting maxchilds, but would that break something else?
Should I just make a swap file? Will that defeat the point of creating child processes?
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Code:
Timeout 4
KeepAlive Off
KeepAliveTimeout 2
ServerLimit 1500
<IfModule prefork.c>
StartServers 10
MinSpareServers 10
MaxSpareServers 15
MaxClients 1500
MaxRequestsPerChild 3000
</IfModule>
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