Limiting Factors On A Shared Hosting Type
Oct 13, 2009
What limiting factors should clients most look into when they shop for a type of hosting, starting with shared ? When these factors are importants, a client would at least go for VPS.
I listed some of them I know (for a shared/reseller hosting type) :
- Fact that you can only host websites (no backup, no specialties hosting)
- No control over what's installer on the server
- Can go to slow to fast, depends on which sites you're hosted with
- Account can be suspended in case of traffic surge
- No SSH most of the time
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Mar 25, 2009
What are the factors that determine how much bandwidth you use?
Also:
What happened to the site? There was some kind of server crash and then my account here have somehow seemed to have disappeared.
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Jan 29, 2015
I have a problem with Parallels Plesk v12.0
Hosting type on website became "No web hosting."
When I try to change hosting type to "Forwarding" it changes ok.
If I change hosting type to "Website hosting", I get message "The hosting type for "website name" was successfully changed.", but hosting plan still stay "No web hosting"....
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Apr 29, 2009
I need to switch two corporate web sites from a provider which has been providing spotty up time and poor reliability especially on their email servers; worst thing about them is that when they're down we get no notice, until we notice or customers complain. We've had outages for email that lasted as long as 72 hours. I'm not sure how our service is configured there, but I would guess shared hosting.
I understand the differences in shared hosting, virtual private or dedicated server, and dedicated hosting unmanaged or managed. What I'm not sure about is what would be best for our needs. If I dont get other advice, I'll probably sign up for shared hosting with a provider that has other service types available.
We do not do any E-commerce, but our website is our advertising and if we're down we can lose sales. Our customers need access to documentation downloads and get upset if we're down. Our current site has shown these statistics on average per day: 3000-4000 hits, 3000-4000 files 200 visits. Our monthly bandwidth was a maximum of 2GB over the past year. We need less than 50 email addresses.
Phone support is necessary, 24/7 would be nice. We need server monitoring and security, good uptime and reliability statistics or a guarantee. Control panel and statistics would be nice. We dont need any website design tools.
I've used Futurequest for a website in the past but their geared to E-Commerce and have no phone support. I have some websites registered with Dotster but they're very light on support. A colleague has used Lunarpages for similar businesses, I think, and he recommended them. He indicated they were good for him with phone support.
If you're still reading, I'd appreciate any guidance, both for type of service and for specific providers.
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Dec 15, 2008
When i try to install BotNET 1.0 on my dedicated, i got this error :
root@leet [~/botnet/BotNET-1.0]# . install.sh
Compiling source code . . .
In file included from src/main.c:9:
src/../include/bot.h:43: error: array type has incomplete element type
src/../include/bot.h:57: error: array type has incomplete element type
src/../include/bot.h:89: error: array type has incomplete element type
src/main.c: In function:
src/main.c:146: error: type of formal parameter 1 is incomplete
Here is my install.sh file:
Code:
#!/bin/bash
# BotNET installation script.
# If this script causes problems, try "make all" instead.
# Usage: . install.sh
cc="/usr/bin/gcc"
echo "Compiling source code . . ."
bot=`$cc src/main.c src/launch.c src/memo.c src/seen.c src/parse.c src/help.c src/log.c src/info.c -o bin/bot -pthread || (echo 1)`
botnet=`$cc src/botserv.c -o bin/botserv || (echo 1)`
if [ "$bot" != "1" ]; then
echo "Installation complete."
echo "Executables will be found in bin/"
else
echo "Errors encountered during compilation!"
fi
My OS is centOs 5.x
Kernel : Linux 2.6.18-53.el5 #1 SMP Mon Nov 12 02:22:48 EST 2007 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux
* I have tried all other way to install (make all) and other *
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Apr 9, 2009
on my internet travels today I found a site that provides a warranty on web hosts. I'm not entirely sure of the details so I can't really comment on it but I found it rather interesting.
Anyway, some deeper digger found that this site is merely a rebranded hosting affiliate, with their top provider rank held by the one and only, Bluehost!
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Apr 20, 2009
my company's current hosting contract expires in May and I'm in need to find another one that will hopefully suit me better and cause much less headache.
I'll try to list some basic needs I got:
10gb bandwidth
10gb space
Mass email marketing ability! This is important!
I have a member list of about 30,000 who I email twice a week! These people are opt-in recipients of these emails.
On top of that I'd like to start mining and sending out opt-in requests of about 50-100,000 a month to NEW emails that I don't have direct permission to email.
I obviously have software to manage, clean, send out in batches, and do whatever else you have to for proper email marketing.
From some research I got the idea that I would be better off with some offshore VPS/dedicated host that won't shut us down for emailing. We will do our best to keep the bounces at minimum as well as keep up-to-date blacklists/unsubscribers.
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Apr 17, 2007
I'm planning to open picture site similar to flickr perhaps and was wondering how much bandwidth do i need. what kind of hosting type do i need.
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Dec 13, 2007
I have a client how want a website that his can go to and view their house/business from video surveilance camera. What type of hosting service do I need.
Is godaddy.com a good choice?
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Sep 10, 2008
we are thinking of starting a hosting company and was wondering what type of certificate we need to secure the sever and our clients can us to secure their carts? I see other hosting companies calling it a shared certificate. Sorry for the double post put it in the wrong area.
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Mar 31, 2008
I'm starting a streetwear clothing company and am about to get a website done to display my catalogue - it will have medium amounts of flash and will be like most other e-commerce clothing stores
However, I won't be needing a full e-commerce site as I do not intend to sell through my website - if needed, all I hope to have on it is a link for payments to be made via paypal
What I will need is a host that is reliable and doesn't bug out as soon as traffic to my site increases - I have no idea as to the amount of traffic i will be receiving when things are just starting out but I'd like to at least be prepared for high traffic - I was stupid enough to believe in all the overselling from big hosting companies until I did more reading - now I know their limits are just for show and I want to avoid getting shut down or whatever for putting a load on their resources
My hope is that some of you learned ones can advise me on the direction i should be heading Though I have no idea exactly what VPS and dedicated servers are, I assume these are more suitable for my needs? Are big hosting companies more reliable when it comes to their package plans for VPS or dedicated servers?
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Apr 7, 2014
When I try to set a domain's hosting type from "Forwarding" to "Website hosting" I get the following error:
Error:
Unable to start (/c ""C:Program Files (x86)ParallelsPleskadminbinusermng.exe" exist [username]")
at Plesk impersonation(PipeServer::ServerThread::runAs line 886)
at Unable to execute applicationzif_plesk_proc_open line 1274)
What I tried:
- Using different usernames;
- Checked plesksrv.exe permissions [URL] ;
And right now I'm running the PP Reconfigurator tool, option Plesk File Security, cause I think this issue is related with permissions.
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Mar 1, 2015
I have a "little" problem. I can not change the hosting type for a domain.
There is the error:
"Internal error.
ERROR: Call to a member function getRootPath() on a non-object (Abstract.php:141)"
What am I doing wrong?
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Nov 28, 2014
Following configuration given:
Abo with "domain.com" - Hosting Type - Webspace (with E-Mail Services)
Subdomain "sub.domain.com" - Hosting Type - Forward
Customer asked us to activate Forward for "domain.com "to other Domain for 2 weeks - but as soon as a Subdomain points on a Domain - I can NOT change the Hosting Type anymore ... WHY???
If I want to change Hosting Type from Hosting to Forward for some weeks - it always deletes the whole Webspace for the Domain ... ?!?
1) Why can't I change Hosting Type when a Sub-Domain is created?
2) Why can't I tell Plesk to change Hosting Type WITHOUT deleting the whole Webspace ...
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Dec 6, 2014
I have installed Plesk 12.0.18 on my server and want to change the hosting-type from "Forwarding" to "Web hosting". I change the type via "Websites & Domains" view (see attachments).
After I insert username and password, I get following error message:
Some fields are empty or contain an improper value. ('home' = '')
Deleting the domain and creating it from scratch is a bad option. I would have to create all e-mail accounts and migrate the data.
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Jun 23, 2008
Anyone can tell us (from experience) a good hosting company for dedicated servers?
The most important thing for us right now is to stop a DDoS application type attack which seems to be taking place from DC++ peer to peer clients.
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Oct 30, 2014
I can not change "Hosting Type" of my domains configured in Parallels Plesk 11.0.9 for Linux.
I have read this kb. It is exactly the problem I have, but I have permission to create domains and still can not change the type of hosting...
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Mar 26, 2015
When trying to change the hosting type of a subscription, from website to forwarding or none, that was created before I removed tomcat from the server, I get the error: "Error: tomcatmng failed:".
For subscriptions that where created after I removed the tomcat package (with the updates and upgrades manager/product installer) hosting type changing is no problem.
Debian 7.8
Plesk version 12.0.18 Update #39
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Apr 23, 2009
I'm trying to find at least three web hosting companies to choose from to host a Joomla websites on a shared server. Would consider dedicated if the deal was right. I have a friend of mine who wants to create a church website, and is looking for the best deal. I use Netfirms which I have never had an issue with, but I didn't want to be bias, and would like give him other options to choose from.
Is there a good WebHosting Review site, I could check out, or maybe someone could recommend their top three. I reading threw the forums here and I noticed there are not that many complaints with Hostgator. Again, I just want to see if there was anything out there better.
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Apr 2, 2009
This question gets asked a lot in our Helpdesk and I figured I would post our knowledgebase article here to help anyone else wondering the Pros and Cons of Unlimited Domain Shared Hosting vs. Reseller Hosting. If anyone has anything else to add, I appreciate any feedback on how we can improve our KB article.
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Given the present state of shared hosting, many clients may ask "Why would I need a Reseller account if I can host unlimited Addon and Parked domains within a single shared hosting account?". There is certainly enough Disk Space and Bandwidth provided in many of today's hosting packages, so why bother to purchase a Reseller account?
Many don't realize the drawbacks of hosting large numbers of domains within a single hosting account until they've already packed tens of them onto a single package.
So how do you know whether a Reseller account or Shared Hosting account is right for you? The answer is in how you plan to provide access to others and how "mission-critical" the sites are. You should consider the following factors when deciding on hosting a large number of domains:
1. Who will be managing these sites?
2. How important is site security between sites?
3. Will these domains need dedicated SSLs?
4. How resource intensive will these sites be (RAM, CPU, MySQL)?
In a nutshell, Reseller plans are for those who wish to host websites for other sub-clients and a shared hosting package is for a single individual managing multiple personal domains. We'll go over the 4 points above in greater detail.
1. Who will be managing these site?
If you personally own multiple domains and wish to host them within the same hosting space, you can easily do so with an Addon or Parked domain. An addon domain will allow you to host a new domain within a subdirectory of your hosting space. A parked domain will allow you to have multiple domain names point to the same content. Since addon domains reside within the same user space as your main domain, you can manage all of your domains with a single login. You can see the problem if you want to provide another user with access. Since all accounts are managed with a single set of login credentials, if you give another user access to their addon domain you are also giving them access to your main domain. If you have vital information stored on your main domain and you are hosting another domain as an addon domain for someone else, you cannot provide them access to their hosting without compromising the integrity of your main domain.
When hosting sites as a Reseller, your clients in turn will want access to their account and will want exclusive rights to their disk space and server resources. With a Reseller account, each sub-account you create gets its own username, password, and isolated user space on the server. Individual clients of yours have access to their user space and their user space alone. In addition to the isolation with regards to access concerns, each account also gets their own cPanel access. All of the same great features that you use to manage your sites can also be given to your clients. Next time client Y wants to add an email account, you don't have to do it for them for fear of giving them access to your cPanel, you can simply give them their login details and they can manage their own email accounts.
2. How important is site security between sites?
This is along the same lines as point 1. This is not necessarily related to who you are hosting for, but what content you are hosting. Imagine that you are a webmaster and you are hosting your own personal site-in-a-box community forums (such as PHPBB or vBulliten) on your main domain and a company website for a paying client on an addon domain. It is not uncommon for popular scripts to have security flaws in older versions. Script authors will often update security flaws in later versions of their software. For this reason, it is very important to keep scripts up to date on your site. But let's assume you forget to update your scripts for a couple of months and an unscrupulous individual takes advantage of a well known security hole. Using this exploit, they gain access to your forums and any subdirectories. Since you are hosting another domain as an addon, they now have access to this domain's content as well. A site defacement on this company's site may not bode well for you when they are considering you for web master services in the future.
If these two domains had been separate into two individual users (i.e. two subaccounts created through a Reseller), their content would've been inherently isolated server side by Linux's user management. Sure, your forums still would've been affected by the security hole, but the break-in would've been isolated to your site alone.
Going back to our example, let's say that instead of a corporate website as an addon domain you are hosting an image gallery site for all of your cats. In this case, it may not be a big deal if a compromise in your main domain spreads to your addon domain. After all, they are both owned by you and you're only losing some time and effort to restore these sites from your local backups (which I'm sure you've actively maintained ). But then again, you are losing time and time is money. If these sites had been separated into individual users, again, you'd only have to restore one site's content.
The idea here is isolation. Reseller plans provide you with the peace of mind to know that if one of your users doesn't keep up with their site's content as actively as they should, their actions won't negatively impact the content hosted on other domains. If you and those you host in your addons are diligent webmasters, maybe this point won't have much bearing on your decision. Only you can say for sure.
3. Will these domains need SSLs?
As of this writing, SSL certificates must have a dedicated IP address to be installed. If you are hosting multiple domains on the same shared hosting package, you can still install an SSL (or purchase a dedicated IP address and install one) but you are limited to exactly one SSL on your account. If you are hosting multiple domains on the same package (and consequently the same IP), you must choose which domains gets to have the dedicated SSL.
Sub accounts of Resellers can each be placed onto separate IP addresses and, as a result, can each have their own dedicated SSL installed.
Of course, both shared accounts and Resellers' sub accounts can use the server's shared SSL free of charge. However, some clients prefer to see their domain in the URL bar when they visit https.
4. How resource intensive will these sites be (RAM, CPU, MySQL)?
We've already established that disk space and bandwidth will be no problem. But what about CPU, RAM, and MySQL resources?
It's important to be aware of the resource needs of your website. As administrators, we have to make sure all users "play nice" on the server. We can't have user X eating all of the CPU cycles computing pi to the trillionth decimal place while you are trying to serve web pages to your loyal visitors. We have to monitor the actions of all of our users and in the event someone is stepping beyond the bounds of acceptable resource consumption, we have to take action. In most cases, this entails disabling the abusive script, but in extreme cases we have to suspend the abusive user account to prevent other domains from encountering performance degradation on their sites.
If you are hosting 100 domains as addon domains, all serving nothing but static HTML pages, maybe you will stay off the radar.
But considering most sites are more complicated than static HTML, you may want to be aware of how many sites you host as addons and what content they serve. If you're hosting the latest and greatest Joomla modules, with up to date news feeds, integrated forums modules, polls, blog posts, etc your site can certainly require a degree of CPU to serve your pages. Now imagine you have 5 or 10 of these sites all hosted as addon domains. The resources these sites need to generate their content can quickly add up and before you know it you've got a friendly email from Acenet, Inc. in your inbox wondering why your user is consuming 2 of the 8 CPU cores on the server. That may be an exaggeration, but you get the idea. In the event your resource usage becomes so excessive that we have to suspend your user, now all of your sites are down instead of whichever one may be the direct cause of the spike in CPU, RAM, or MySQL consumption.
If each of these had been separate Reseller accounts, the offending account could've been suspended temporarily while we work through the cause, leaving the rest of your domains live and kicking.
The conclusion here is that you need to be aware of the needs of your sites in a general sense. Hosting unlimited domains within a shared hosting space is certainly a nice feature. For those webmasters who have multiple presences on the web, it's very convenient to be able to manage all of their personal domains from a single control panel. For those entrepreneurs who are hosting multiple domains for other individuals, the features and security associated with a Reseller plan and the inherent isolation of Linux users is a must have.
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Jul 31, 2014
I'have a problem with my aps setup on sanbox.When i create on customer ccp when i click finish i have this error. I must only test.
Error: Instance of application with id 124 and version '1-4' can not be provided: There is no resource of class 'Shared hosting Apache' with provisioning attributes 'Web Cluster' in subscription with id 1.:There is no resource of class 'Physical hosting (IIS)' with provisioning attributes 'Web Cluster' in subscription with id 1..If i add the shared hosting apache resourse i get this error : There are no "apache" services that satisfy given attributes: "Web Cluster".
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Jul 13, 2005
I am developing a website for a client of mine (the client is a close friend and know's that he is getting a newbie). This site will be larger (project wise) than anything that I have ever done (everything I have done in the past has been FrontPage). We will be using several third party applications that need to run on the server as well as our own custom developed applications. We do not yet know how much access to the server's deeper structures we will need for all of the applications that we want loaded on our server to run. Things we have in mind: oscommerce, mysql, php5, apache, linux, vbulletin, blogger, phpbb, adserver, ect... Would these things run ok on a shared host and would I have full authority to configure them without needing full access to the server? Or will I need access to the entire server (dedicated server) in order to have full customization capabilities? I guess all I am trying to figure out at this point is will shared hosting for a large project limit our abilities to use 3rd party apps, or do most 3rd party application designers build their stuff to work in a shared hosting environment anyway? If we need to get a dedicated server we will, but if we can get away with shared hosting for a while (especially during development when the site will not be generating revenue) it would be nice to avoid the price of a dedicated server. Many thanks for your comments, insight, and expertise! Also, if anyone can sight some common scenarios that may require a dedicated server over a shared hosting plan, that may help me to understand what the limitations of a shared hosting plan vs. a deicated or virtual dedicated server are.
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Aug 17, 2008
Here is my dilemma, thanks to a thread in these forums I was directed to a hosting website called pc-core.net and I was interested in using them, because it does not appear that they oversell at all. My question is regarding the fact that they have the shared hosting for $12/month with ~5gb of disk space and 50gb of transfer. I then just looked at reseller hosting for the heck of it, and noticed i could get a reseller hosting account with 45gb storage and 450gb of bandwidth for $10/month. Even though I wont be selling hosting, or anything like that, can I use a reseller hosting account like a normal shared hosting account?...just with more space and bandwidth?
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Jun 13, 2008
I'm new to the VPS scene, so could someone tell me the difference between VPS and say shared hosting or dedicated hosting? Actually I really like to know what a Virtual Private Server actually is.. I know shared hosting is typically a single account on a server with several hundred other accounts which is used primarily for the sole purpose of hosting websites, and I know that dedicated hosting is functionally the same as colo except that you rent the server, instead of having your own purchased server plugged into some network. So what is VPS?
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May 6, 2008
Do website builders generally go with shared hosting or dedicated server? I mean, if they work on several websites would they get a dedicated server instead of shared? From what I understand through reading shared hosting is basically if you only have one website. So one with multiple websites would go with a dedicated server?
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Apr 23, 2008
I would like to know the different between the shared hosting and reseller hosting?
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Sep 25, 2009
How long do you wait before moving from shared to VPS or dedicated? Apart from security and speed, what are the benefits of dedicated hosting? This says [url] that shared is better than dedicated because you have to do less..
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May 16, 2009
I have visited a website ( i dont remember the address or its name) which had some tools to check stuff like the whois of the domain, the location of an ip etc.
Also it had a tool where you have your servers ip, and if the ip had several sites on it (shared hosting enviroment) it would make a list of all the sites with that ip....
where I can find that tool or something like that?
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May 3, 2009
I am thinking about moving hosts and I have some RapidSSL SSL Certificates and PositiveSSL (Free from Namecheap) SSL Certificates
I was wondering can I get these moved over to the new host, if I could bring the SSL Certificates without having to have either get a re-issue of the SSL Certificate or buy new ssl Certificates.
I still have the CSR, Private Key from WHM/cPanel and I would be moving to another WHM/cPanel shared hosting account
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Jun 20, 2008
I have decided to change my current webhost. Recently I have started seeing a lot of downtime. For a long time I was thinking about moving to a VPS. Unfortunately, I don't have any experience managing one. But I am willing to take any hardship to learn setting up and managing a VPS. The main set back here is that my budget is (very) limited (max $12/month). I have seen some hosts offering VPS for rates that are within the above budget.
Can you plz suggest which is better for me? Shared or VPS?
I own about 10 websites presently, but the number is going to increase as I am planning to take web designing seriously. But none of them are high traffic, infact my current monthly traffic is only 15-20GB.
What I want is a host that provide somewhat good customer support ( support ticket system that gets responded within an hour is fine with me), good uptime and allow me to host multiple domains hassle free.
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Dec 10, 2008
I have been using a shared hosting. My current host has had some unreliable services from time to time in the past. Lately, the primary reason for my decision to leave my current host is that few (or more than few) of my paid subscribers and non-paid visitors said that my website has been down for some time or for weeks or more even *after* they were able to view the site; however, it IS up and running fine for the majority of the users and myself.
What are the possible reasons for being able to view the site for a while but then later find the site down to a few users for weeks or more but the site is up and running fine for most of other people and myself? The "down" shouldn't be "selective" to some people.
Before leaving the current host, I need to know why it happens so that I can choose the right host and the right plan (and shared hosting vs VPS).
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