Keeping Yahoo! As Mail Server And Host Someplace Else
Mar 3, 2008
Basically, my client don't like yahoo as their host for their website, but wants to keep their "Yahoo! Business Mail". How can I do this without doing any "forwarding"?
They will be using Dreamhost to host their website.
i have problem in my server from 2 weeks ago server stop sending mail to yahoo and hotmail but to gmail send good without any problem i make SPF and add it for all domains after that mail worked Good in 1 day after that the problem come again
I'd like to create a forwarding address, and not have the original account keep the mail - but without having to delete the original account, since I'd like to keep my existing emails.
For instance if the old account is apples@domain.com, I'd like to forward new emails to oranges@new.com, where apples doesn't keep the new emails. Currently in cPanel when I create a forwarder apples@domain.com=>oranges@new.com, new emails are sent to both accounts.
I am a hobbyist webmaster wanting to start a third website.
As a newbie, I started my website with Yahoo! Small Business. I didnât know anything about hosting at that time and their ads captivated me. Also, there was confidence in dealing with a billion dollar company.
A couple of months later, when I started my second website I opted for Blue Host because I saw their ad on Word Press and I thought that anybody endorsed by WP would have to be good.
I am now in a position to compare and what I find is this:Yahoo!Cost$11.95 per monthEmails 250 in 24 hoursAdd-On Domains NilSupport Nil (only email)Fantastico Nil (Limited)Non-domain emailsNot permitted.htaccess Not allowedBlue HostCost $6.95 per monthEmails 500 per hour (12,000 in 24 hours)Add-On Domains UnlimitedSupport 24/7 live chatFantastico FullNon-domain emails Permitted.htaccess Allowed Yahoo! has had its fair share of downtime (a fortnight ago there was a server 500 error which lasted several hours). Also some months ago some of my files were infected by a javascript virus (though this may have been my fault for uploading files without virus protection).
I am quite happy with BH because I am paying less, get unlimited add-on domains (I added four very easily) and get 24/7 chat support (with Yahoo! you only get an automated email response after 24 - 48 hours!)
It is said that you get what you paid for. I am paying Yahoo! more but what am I getting in return which I am not getting from BH?
Or to put it another way: Why would someone (reasonably instructed) opt for Yahoo! over BH and others?
Is Yahoo! just a rip-off or am I missing something here?
My client would like to go for a real hosting company. However, he has some concerns about his archived emails. He want to move all those email to the host.
I am looking for an expert who can help me configure my dedicated server to ensure my email gets delivered to Yahoo.
I have an autoresponder script hosted on the server. The script was previously hosted with another host and I got excellent deliverability to Yahoo, Gmail, Hotmail and everyone else.
Unfortunately the volume of mail was too large for that host, so now I have a dedicated server. Since I moved to the dedicated server (two weeks ago), my mail does not get delivered to Yahoo. It doesn't even go into the junk mail folder. It just disappears.
I am very strictt about using confirmed optin for my lists, so it's not a blacklist issue. Right from day one on the new server, my mail did not reach Yahoo. So it must be the way my server is set up.
If there is someone who knows how to resolve this, I am willing to pay you to solve the problem for me. Or, if there is anyone who can give me some advice, that would be much appreciated.
business is just getting out of hand. I applied several weeks ago for Whitelist status, and my issues finally went away for a little over a week (though I never received a response to my Postmaster requests). But then today -bam- 100% deferrals for going on 18 hours now, not a single message has gone through. And naturally no two Yahoo servers give me the same error message.
So...
At this point I'm ready to contract out my Outbound mail to Yahoo through a whitelisted 3rd party until I can get this resolved on my end. Would this be reasonable? Is anyone else doing this? I worked with an outsourced SMTP provider in another life for an internal company mailing list with good success.
Can you tell me....Why is yahoo marking my mail as junk?
Can anyone tell me what the likely causes are for yahoo to be marking my emails to clients as junk? We have reverse DNS set up for the server's main IP address, and I'm just not too savvy on the email technicalities of today.
I'll be happy to give you any information you need to help me diagnose the problem. It's getting irritating having to call my clients and tell them to dig the mail out of their junk folder.
i want to download all my mails using outlook express but yahoo says we have to pay for pop3 access and have to upgrade to mailplus for $ 20. is there any other ways to download mails directly to my desktop by outlook what are the configuration settings of outlook express, let me know
i have a issue on my WHM/Cpanel Linux Server. I have hosted few vbulletin and IPB forums. Problem is that, when someone REGISTERS the CONFIRMATION email is sent to JUNK/SPAM in Hotmail and Yahoo email boxes.
I have noted that The Confirmation emails sent from many other servers are NOT MARKED as spam by Yahoo and Hotmail email accounts. But the mails sent from My servers are marked as SPAM by default.
I have pasted the headers below:
Here are headers
Mails sent from this server works fine. Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of webmaster@vbulletin.org designates 209.62.16.134 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.62.16.134; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of webmaster@vbulletin.org designates 209.62.16.134 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=webmaster@vbulletin.org
Mails sent from this server are sent to SPAM folder by default:
Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 66.90.101.249 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of zahidon_4u@yahoo.com) client-ip=66.90.101.249; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 66.90.101.249 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of zahidon_4u@yahoo.com) smtp.mail=zahidon_4u@yahoo.com
One thing i am sure is there is something that needs to be fixed in WHM. Some option but i am not sure of that.
Message is waiting at xxx.xxxxx.xxx for delivery to e.mx.mail.yahoo.com.
Reason: Mail Server for yahoo.com could not accept your email at this time. MailEnable will keep trying to deliver this message and will notify you of any progress.
After a while, then i could telnet to e.mx.mail.yahoo.com port 25. Sometimes it can't.
I'm trying to send mails to yahoo and hotmail from my vps and the result was the mail ended up in Spam folder in yahoo and didn't receive any mails in hotmail. When I check the Full MEssage Header in yahoo, the sender was "Sender: Nobody <nobody@host.mydomain.com>" Do I have to set to a name or something ?
My rDNS and SPF was set up correctly, I think. domainkeys=neutral (no sig)
I have contacted hotmail asking why automated emails such as registration verification are being blocked and they said that my server's IP was on a blacklist for spam. I never spam and I do not think a bot has phished using my server's IP. Anyway, if I were to switch server IPs would that solve the problem?
I am having trouble with all mail from my web server being delivered to the Yahoo! spam folder. After doing some reading, I have set up an SPF record and domain keys on the server, but the messages are still being sent to spam.
Here are the headers from an e-mail I sent to Yahoo! that was marked as spam:
(Note: I've made a few replacements so that my server's identity and my identity are not obvious.) ...
A better title might be "hotmail or yahoo won't accept the emails from sendmail."
I have sendmail version: 8.13.4
I have the only modification I can remember doing is: MASQUERADE_AS(`ipalaces.org')dnl
I can send emails perfectly to gmail accounts. Here is a sucessfull output of an email send to gmail:
Quote:
Delivered-To: paroxsitic@gmail.com Received: by 10.114.113.11 with SMTP id l11cs366927wac; Thu, 29 Mar 2007 10:05:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.80.14 with SMTP id d14mr1879830wxb.1175187909424; Thu, 29 Mar 2007 10:05:09 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: <root@ipalaces.org> Received: from ipalaces.org (ipalaces.org [64.74.153.24]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id h40si1247663wxd.2007.03.29.10.05.09; Thu, 29 Mar 2007 10:05:09 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of root@ipalaces.org designates 64.74.153.24 as permitted sender) Received: from ipalaces.org (ipalaces.org [127.0.0.1]) by ipalaces.org (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3sarge3) with ESMTP id l2TH58SJ005383 for <paroxsitic@gmail.com>; Thu, 29 Mar 2007 13:05:08 -0400 Received: (from root@localhost) by ipalaces.org (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id l2TH51kd005299 for paroxsitic@gmail.com; Thu, 29 Mar 2007 13:05:01 -0400 Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2007 13:05:01 -0400 From: root <root@ipalaces.org> Message-Id: <200703291705.l2TH51kd005299@ipalaces.org> To: undisclosed-recipients:;
This is a test of the body.
I originally thought the reason hotmail or yahoo didn't receive my emails was because I had no reverse DNS for the IP I was sending the emails out with. Therefore I had my VPS provider create one for my IP. It now reflects ipalaces.org with the IP I use to send out emails (64.74.153.24)
Even after the reverse DNS in place, hotmail nor yahoo could recieve my emails. I am now pretty much stump as to why. I have googled and scanned various other solutions and I havent found anything.
Here is a verbose output of using sendmail to an hotmail address of mine:
Quote:
ek_opteron@hotmail.com... Connecting to [127.0.0.1] port 587 via relay... 220 ipalaces.org ESMTP Sendmail 8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3sarge3; Thu, 29 Mar 2007 1 3:07:17 -0400; (No UCE/UBE) logging access from: ipalaces.org(OK)-ipalaces.org [ 127.0.0.1] >>> EHLO ipalaces.org 250-ipalaces.org Hello ipalaces.org [127.0.0.1], pleased to meet you 250-ENHANCEDSTATUSCODES 250-PIPELINING 250-EXPN 250-VERB 250-8BITMIME 250-SIZE 250-DSN 250-ETRN 250-AUTH DIGEST-MD5 CRAM-MD5 250-DELIVERBY 250 HELP >>> VERB 250 2.0.0 Verbose mode >>> MAIL From:<root@ipalaces.org> SIZE=15 AUTH=root@ipalaces.org 250 2.1.0 <root@ipalaces.org>... Sender ok >>> RCPT To:<ek_opteron@hotmail.com> >>> DATA 250 2.1.5 <ek_opteron@hotmail.com>... Recipient ok 354 Enter mail, end with "." on a line by itself >>> . 050 <ek_opteron@hotmail.com>... Connecting to mx3.hotmail.com. via esmtp... 050 220 bay0-mc8-f1.bay0.hotmail.com Sending unsolicited commercial or bulk e-ma il to Microsoft's computer network is prohibited. Other restrictions are found a t http://privacy.msn.com/Anti-spam/. Violations will result in use of equipment located in California and other states. Thu, 29 Mar 2007 10:07:17 -0700 050 >>> EHLO ipalaces.org 050 250-bay0-mc8-f1.bay0.hotmail.com (3.3.2.16) Hello [64.74.153.24] 050 250-SIZE 29696000 050 250-PIPELINING 050 250-8bitmime 050 250-BINARYMIME 050 250-CHUNKING 050 250-AUTH LOGIN 050 250-AUTH=LOGIN 050 250 OK 050 >>> MAIL From:<root@ipalaces.org> SIZE=320 AUTH=<> 050 250 root@ipalaces.org....Sender OK 050 >>> RCPT To:<ek_opteron@hotmail.com> 050 >>> DATA 050 250 ek_opteron@hotmail.com 050 354 Start mail input; end with <CRLF>.<CRLF> 050 >>> . 050 250 <200703291707.l2TH7DSt007328@ipalaces.org> Queued mail for delivery 050 <ek_opteron@hotmail.com>... Sent ( <200703291707.l2TH7DSt007328@ipalaces.org > Queued mail for delivery) 250 2.0.0 l2TH7HeD007332 Message accepted for delivery ek_opteron@hotmail.com... Sent (l2TH7HeD007332 Message accepted for delivery) Closing connection to [127.0.0.1] >>> QUIT 221 2.0.0 ipalaces.org closing connection
The main thing that strikes out to me is that hotmail says "Queued mail for delivery" whereas Gmail normally says "OKAY". It seems as hotmail gets the email, and then decides it's no good. I don't know if my IP is blacklisted or I have to change something in my configuration from 127.0.0.1 to my IP, or what I have to do.
We've installed domainkeys, SPF, and taken all measures suggested by Yahoo but customer e-mails continue to be delayed for days at times. And then of course they end up in the recipients junk folder. Worst of all is that Yahoo does not care to take the time to help or inform ISP's. No explanations, just generic tips.
So I was wondering if there is some sort of exim or sendmail script (procmail?) we can create that will do the following:
For every e-mail sent to Yahoo, the mail server sends another one to the recipient with a notice saying something like:
Attempts to deliver this e-mail to you were rejected by Yahoo mail service X number of times [or delayed X hours/days]. If this is unsatisfactory, we suggest you contact Yahoo support for a resolution.