How Does Colo Work
Apr 19, 2007
You rent space at a datacenter that fits your power and cooling requirements. You bring your own equipment or ship it to the datacenter to get setup in your rack. Who handles fixing things? You or the datacenter? Also, do you ever have access to your server physically while it's at a datacenter?
How about bandwidth and providers? NOCS, POPS, IAX's etc... Where do those come into play and how does that structure typically look (anyone have any graphical illustrations of how peering/backbones etc work with IAX's, POP's, and NOC's?) I'm curious more about that then colocation at it's most basic forms.
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Dec 16, 2007
Please give me the difference. Colo in carrier hotel, we can choose our preferred network provider, but should we do that if we cannot have our own tech in datacenter? How about the supporting service from carrier hotel? Just general question, cause I dont address exactly which facility.
And the second would be more expensive? Saying the same number of rack, amount of bandwidth... Who is providing IP addresses then?
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Mar 29, 2008
I've been out of the game for a while and now looking at colo prices each server is only allocated 0.5a on most plans.
I was looking at purchasing a 1u HP DL160 dual quad core system with at least dual sata raided drives
My question is what kind of amps would a system like this pull? and how much do data centers typically charge for that additional power if it needed over the .5
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Mar 11, 2008
if anyone knew hosts (other then FDC in USA) that offers 1U-4U/midtower colocation with 100Mbit or greater uplink, with atleast 2TB of transfer. With IRC allowed.
My budget is ~$100, I'm fairly sure it can be done as I saw FDC had one for $79, and it would be fine though I was hoping if anyone knew any others.
Also, Giga-International has what I need, are they reliable?
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Dec 10, 2007
Anyone here have much experience in a facility with 48VDC (like a telco facility). Is it more trouble than it's worth?
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Jul 20, 2008
colo of a 1u server that would need 500gig per month of b/w and I perferably would like to find a DC in NY/northern NJ or southern CT although in my search I seem to be getting price quotes of $100+ per month which I think is insane when I see dedicateds with more b/w for the same amount or even less.
I know most will say just get a dedicated server somewhere but my requirments are that I need a server with a lot of ram and at least a dual cpu and dedicate's with a dual cpu and 2gigs or more of ram seem to be much more thenmy budget.
So any suggestions for a $60 or less per month colo space with 500gig of b/w or a dedicated server provider offering a server in that price range with dual cpu and 2gig ddr ram and 80gig hdd?
By the way I looked at ezzi.net which has a $49 deal on a dedicated server but no option to have one with a dual cpu:
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Jan 3, 2007
I have had experience with reselling hosting using HostGator seller. My job was basically to run my site and get customers, set up price plans etc on WHM. I sold that company a while back. I am ready to have another shot at hosting, but this time I want to use my own servers...
I have found a great site, which has customisations etc. on servers (http://www.cybertronpc.com), but they don't ship to UK. (If I'm using colo is US, could I get it shipped straight to them?)
My main question is, is colo needed? If I am going to setup this company the Data-Center is not going to be local, either London or in US. So there is no chance of me going down unless it is to pick up my server . So I think I'm going to need a maintaned service I think. The server will be used for clients data (shared hosting). So what services will I need in terms of security and stability? What am I looking for in a colo service? What about back-ups of data on the server? Is that my responsibility or can it be bought as a service? Ok... now I'm guessing that I'm going to need colo...
What are common problems etc. with servers? Am I going to need virtual IP connection for maintainance... Is it best I pay for this or a service operator? Any recommendations on where to have the colo (i'm based in UK) and why? What can I do when it is time for me to request my server back from UK?
When changing colo services is there any way of avoiding down-time?
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Jul 16, 2007
I have noticed that many web hosts offer intel celeron machines @ $55 per month...they do not own the datacenters but colocate the servers,
We are also thinking of buying 2-3 such machines @ $450 each and then coloing them in the USA
I think about 800gigs-1tb would be the bandwidth requirements per server..
we aren't interested in RACKS...we just want to colo 2-3 machines to see how fast they sell, and then maybe we might order about 10-15 servers..
who do you think can offer us a decent deal for less than $40-50 per month...all
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Oct 31, 2007
currently I have managed several dedicated servers. I plan to colo it with 1 rack at a datacentre. So, before I buy hardware or software, I need some helpful info/guide.
- I need my server can be monitored, reboot remotely. What kind of hardware is require and please suggest some models.
- Which software is suitable for billing, monitoring. Please suggest any software come with good API since I plan to develop own small control panel later.
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Jan 28, 2007
anyone knows any good colocations in orlando, FL? I need 2 mb and 300 gb for 49.99 per month.
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Mar 13, 2007
What is the best indication for a web hosting company to move from dedicated server to colocation?
I have several low end dedis and im thinking of buying an enterprise class server with lots of diskspace (raid 5, dual power, ecc, etc.), have it colocated and move all the accounts to that server. I would be saving in the long run but kinda turned-off due to all eggs in one (enterprise-class) basket dilema. I woud be saving on server management cost too because I'm signing up one machine only instead of several.
Is going colocation a natural progression of the web hosting business cycle? We start off with a Reseller Account in the beginning - then grow and lease a Dedicated Server. And then grow and lease another and another..... Is colocation the next big step?
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Jul 25, 2007
I'm considering going with CalPop for one of my colo sites. I've read the user reviews and apart from those who were chaffed because of scratched servers and reboots they seem decent enough. My take on sticking anything in a datacenter is to stick it in yourself and rent the entire rack. That should take care of 90% of the negative reviews I have read, so my question is does any one have any real review of their services? Bandwidth performance, etc?
Secondly, I need a second colo for a redundant server. I'd like to find something closer on the East coast that offers the same pricing structure and services.
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May 1, 2007
Anyone know what firewall do I need for my colo? I want to protect external IP. Here is my setup
3 servers, all have two nic cards, one of the cards will be the external IP and the other one will be LAN IP. So my question is what hardware firewall do I need to protect the External IP?
I was thinking of a cisco pix 515e. Which only route external IP to the LAN IP. I need something where I don't have to route, It just protect the external IP.
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Oct 18, 2009
I need 1U of space, .5 amp (50 watts) power, one IP, 2.5mbps bidirectional bandwidth (total of 5mbps up + down) and about 10GB of traffic per day each direction (total of 20GB up + down). Would be nice if they have remote KVM along with console (serial) access. Location should be anywhere in USA.
Purpose is to host a VPN router for various remote locations to connect in to. Reliability and good connection (low latency) is important.
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May 2, 2008
I've been a colo since the beginning of time. My servers are getting old so I've started pricing options, and it looks like dedicated is the way to go today. But I'm not sure...
I suppose it depends on the host. My host says "if you're colo, we provide admin at an hourly rate. If your machine needs a reboot, call us and we reboot it. If you're dedicated we don't touch your server beyond repairing it. If it needs a reboot, you login to our site and click a link and it is rebooted."
That doesn't seem like much of a difference. I'd need an off-site admin, but both charge by the hour, so no big deal. A live person reboot seems no better than a web-based software reboot. In fact I'll wager that the "live person" just logs in and clicks the link for me.
Colo is about twice as expensive as dedicated. That seems like the only big difference.
It also seems to me that with today's cPanel-style admin it's trivial to migrate to a new host, so competition to keep clients is intense. I'm guessing that keeps prices down. Reading between the lines of what my host says, I can tell he doesn't really want me to go dedicated. He kinda said they don't make much money on dedicated machines.
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Feb 24, 2008
Anyone have any opinions on Node2 colocation up in near Derby?
Seem to offer a good price point, but whats the service like?
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May 29, 2008
I have a web hosting business that has been growing constantly for a couple of years, now I think it's time to move on and instead of leasing servers start with colocation and operating my own hardware, I'm in Mexico and there are no good deals here as there are in other countries, so I have several questions about your appreciation of where things are better for business, US or Canada:
Where is colo cheaper?
Where is hardware cheaper?
Where is personnel less costly?
Where is personnel better qualified?
Where is office space cheaper?
Where is electrical energy cheaper?
Where are more investment opportunities?
Where are taxes lower?
Where is living less costly?
I've been researching these on my own but still have several doubts, may be you find some of this question obvious however I'd still like to know your appreciation.
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Jun 8, 2008
Which are the best colo provider in Texas. I checked cologuys, colo4dallas and zogmo.
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Jan 31, 2008
Are there any established providers that offer this? I want an established company who isn't going to run off with my server, and they need to provide high quality bandwidth(Level3, AT&T, Sprint, etc) with 100% Power SLA, etc. in a secure facility.
IE: If I buy my own servers can I ship them out to a datacenter to have them fully managed, basically being a dedicated server? Except i'll own the hardware, and they provide the bandwidth, management, etc.
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Dec 31, 2008
Can anyone recommend a descent colo in the Phoenix/Tempe area?
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May 15, 2008
how to organize a colo startup if I manage to get a cage with 2-3 cabinets in a Peer1 datacentre.
From my knowledge, Peer1 handles firewalling, BGP, etc on their end so I probably won't need it.
But how can I organize it, what do you guys do when you get a new client?
Have cables readily dangling in the racks or something so you can connect it to the clients right away?
What kind of reboot privs do you give out?
Monitoring traffic, etc?
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Mar 6, 2008
I have an extra tower server (Dell sc1430) that I'd like to colocate in Seattle. Anyone have a suggestion of a company that would colocate a tower in Seattle?
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Aug 18, 2008
I've been dealing with VPS and dedicated servers primarily.
Is there any benefit of switching to colocation? When should one consider switching to colocation? And should he at all?
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Apr 25, 2008
I've always had to use a bandwidth mix. I recently got offered a great deal on a full rack/cabinet with 30 Mbps of Level3 and Qwest bandwidth in the Chicago area and am thinking about moving my dedicated servers to colo.
I would appreciate your opinions and assistance with these questions.
What is considered a good deal for a full rack, power, and 30 Mbps of Level 3/Qwest bandwidth in the Chicago area? Assuming that it's in a nice and secure datacenter.
Is Level 3 still considered a top bandwidth provider these days?
How good is it compared (in terms of network quality, latency, etc.) to providers like Abovenet, Mzima, and Internap?
Lastly, how does Qwest bandwidth rate among the other carriers?
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Feb 1, 2008
The company i work for is growing at a rapid pace. We need to decide on if we want to colo or add better,bigger connection to our office.
We currently have DSL from Att 6/1 in downtown chicago.
Our product is a web app which people login and use. It runs in IIS, the user can see there data in various forms when the web server makes MS SQL query on the MS SQL that is also on the web server box which is 2u. The user can also download pdf report which range in size from 2meg to 30megs. Due to a limits of our dsl connection the more user's that use it the slower the end user's experience is due to the inet bottleneck. So our option is to get a T1 from ATT,covad or other provider or colo our server.
what factors should i take into account when looking at colo's in the chicago area. I am not sure how much b.w. this apps uses or any other factors the server would be a Dell 2950.
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Jul 13, 2008
What colo facilities are there in Austin TX, specifically with a reasonable amount of potential networking ready to be lit up (multiple 10 Gig-E lit and much more available)?
Anyone know of any, or have actual experience with any of them?
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Aug 23, 2007
I have a friend running a Sun v40z server with VMWare, and I am currently renting a virtual "box" from him. I'm just getting my feet wet with this, so I told him to start me out really low and let me work up as I see the need.
He has started me with a 512kbps 95th percentile plan. I am planning on hosting a few smaller sites in my area that would probably at most use a gig of bandwidth or so per month. I've tried doing the math etc, but I am finding it hard to find a general number of sites like this that I could run without overages. I realize I can spike over my 512 for 36 hours or less per month without overages, I would just like an idea of how many sites like I described it would take to do so. ^_^;
So I figured I would ask the folks with experience in this area, before I go out and sell a bunch of accounts I can't handle without some intense overages.
I am using DirectAdmin on this server also, if that's of any relevance.
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Sep 19, 2007
Here is a short list of grievances
1) Un-ethical pricing schemes
2) Ignoring your support calls once you cancel
3) Cancelling after confirming to show up for a hardware pickup
4) Billing you for months on end after you cancel
5) Not unracking the servers and making clients wait over 2 hours to help THEIR techs unrack boxes
6) Releasing servers to my customers directly for a fee without my authorization (I was holding onto customer's hardware as they owed me money for past due invoices- these servers became released to the client without my knowledgs who then went direct with corporate colo -- see complaint 7 below)
7) Stealing our customers by offering a lower fee to them to get them to "go direct" by saying - sure you can keep your ips, we'll just take it away from your host and let you keep them
8) Giving us the wrong box (YEP They gave us ANOTHER client's box AND called us up begging for us to return it 2 hours later ... all on my dime)
All of this is documented so if they want to come on here and argue, I'd be MORE THAN HAPPY to blast them further.
STAY AWAY FROM CORPORATE COLO - one of the most unprofessional, vindictive, childish and corrupt colocation companies out there
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May 27, 2007
Anyone have information on the following states for Colo?
Virginia
St. Louis
D.C.
Dallas
I'd like to get links to sites who offer these locations. I currently hold a deal with 1/2 Rack and 75.00 a meg with 5 carries. Trying to find different states to locate.
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Dec 22, 2007
if you could host a US ecommerce site anywhere, where would that be? is it better to host in the midwest to reach both coasts faster? is it cheaper to host in the sticks vs big cities?
we use 1/2 rack and only about 2mb/s bandwidth.... we currently host near NYC, but find that we never go to the datacenter anyway, so why pay for the convenience?
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Aug 29, 2007
Anyone know a reliable UK colocation provider which is a cPanel NOC and provides good value internal cPanel licenses for colocated machines?
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