an ecommerce site someone is planning on hosting. They will be selling around 100 products using OSCommerce and no creditcard etc details will be stored on the server. Do you think its a wise choice to start off on a shared host? If yes, are there any additional requirements they should look out for?
View 14 RepliesI've had a look at the different types of hosting, and had a guess at the description,
Shared
A machine with many, many domains on each for individual customer.
E-Commerce
Same as above with SSL?
Dedicated
One machine to yourself, one domain?
Managed
?
VPS
You have a dedicated potion of a machine to use as many domains on as you want?
Colocation
You own the server, someone else looks after it.
Reseller
Hard Disk space and Bandwidth to be apportioned to each domain as you see fit, cpanel with each domain so that you can 'resell'
So what type of hosting would I want to host 5 to 10 of my own websites that use around 100GB a month bandwidth?
After a few threads on Web Hosting Talk, I have decided to go with Magento eCommerce CMS because it is powerful and I like it
The only thing I am looking for is a host that will support it and that will let me either upgrade to a VPS, or straight to a Dedicated Server (or maybe even a co-location).
Because I am a startup business, the costs need to be low (yes, I know good hosting doesn't come cheap and I know I need to put into consideration SSL).
1 major thing. It NEEDS to be in the UK.
I was chatting to one of Rackspace UKs live help support people and they priced their entry level server at "£255 - £355 per month", which being a startup is a bit of a hefty price.
So, how do you think I should start? Shared, VPS or straight to dedicated?
Also, what UK hosts do you recommend?
Wich is the most adequate hosting plan to install a Magento E-Commerce Online Store with:
Number of products: 100 to 300
Number os Visitor / Moth: 10.000 to 80.000
I will need a Shared Accout, VPS, or Dedicated Server?
I've officially decided to go with Hostgator but I'm having a hard time choosing which type of plan would make the most sense for; maybe there is something I'm not seeing and I'm hoping to get some additional insight...
Here is my plan; I plan on hosting multiple domains (business and personal) and atleast one e commerce website to start and it will eventually grow into about 5 down the road (this is going to be a drawn out process and I want to do it right).
The problem I have is I realize in order to get a true ecommerce website up in running I will need a dedicated IP address and SSL certificate for each site. If I purchase the Business plan it only comes with one dedicated IP and one SSL cert; Hostgator also told me that I'm unable to add an additional dedicated IP address or SSL cert to the business plan so I would have to purchase an additional Business Plan (12.95) per each site. It sounds like I could still host private and not SSL required sites on the business plan and as much domains as I want.
If I go the reseller path then the cost per month will be twice as much as the Business Plan and there is no dedicated IP address included. I will also have to purchase dedicated IP addresses at 2.00 a month and SSL certs as well so that method could get expensive.
I'm also not sure if the baby plan would suffice as well, but apparently not because there is a limit of 1 dedicated IP per plan
What would you guys recommend I do; I want a plan that will allow me to grow with them.
Just curious on what your guys thoughts were..
Also I read a previous post in this forum that someone said their SSL cert prompted the end-user to install the certificate; Being in Ecommerce this is obviously unacceptable to me.
I'm trying to find at least three web hosting companies to choose from to host a Joomla websites on a shared server. Would consider dedicated if the deal was right. I have a friend of mine who wants to create a church website, and is looking for the best deal. I use Netfirms which I have never had an issue with, but I didn't want to be bias, and would like give him other options to choose from.
Is there a good WebHosting Review site, I could check out, or maybe someone could recommend their top three. I reading threw the forums here and I noticed there are not that many complaints with Hostgator. Again, I just want to see if there was anything out there better.
This question gets asked a lot in our Helpdesk and I figured I would post our knowledgebase article here to help anyone else wondering the Pros and Cons of Unlimited Domain Shared Hosting vs. Reseller Hosting. If anyone has anything else to add, I appreciate any feedback on how we can improve our KB article.
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Given the present state of shared hosting, many clients may ask "Why would I need a Reseller account if I can host unlimited Addon and Parked domains within a single shared hosting account?". There is certainly enough Disk Space and Bandwidth provided in many of today's hosting packages, so why bother to purchase a Reseller account?
Many don't realize the drawbacks of hosting large numbers of domains within a single hosting account until they've already packed tens of them onto a single package.
So how do you know whether a Reseller account or Shared Hosting account is right for you? The answer is in how you plan to provide access to others and how "mission-critical" the sites are. You should consider the following factors when deciding on hosting a large number of domains:
1. Who will be managing these sites?
2. How important is site security between sites?
3. Will these domains need dedicated SSLs?
4. How resource intensive will these sites be (RAM, CPU, MySQL)?
In a nutshell, Reseller plans are for those who wish to host websites for other sub-clients and a shared hosting package is for a single individual managing multiple personal domains. We'll go over the 4 points above in greater detail.
1. Who will be managing these site?
If you personally own multiple domains and wish to host them within the same hosting space, you can easily do so with an Addon or Parked domain. An addon domain will allow you to host a new domain within a subdirectory of your hosting space. A parked domain will allow you to have multiple domain names point to the same content. Since addon domains reside within the same user space as your main domain, you can manage all of your domains with a single login. You can see the problem if you want to provide another user with access. Since all accounts are managed with a single set of login credentials, if you give another user access to their addon domain you are also giving them access to your main domain. If you have vital information stored on your main domain and you are hosting another domain as an addon domain for someone else, you cannot provide them access to their hosting without compromising the integrity of your main domain.
When hosting sites as a Reseller, your clients in turn will want access to their account and will want exclusive rights to their disk space and server resources. With a Reseller account, each sub-account you create gets its own username, password, and isolated user space on the server. Individual clients of yours have access to their user space and their user space alone. In addition to the isolation with regards to access concerns, each account also gets their own cPanel access. All of the same great features that you use to manage your sites can also be given to your clients. Next time client Y wants to add an email account, you don't have to do it for them for fear of giving them access to your cPanel, you can simply give them their login details and they can manage their own email accounts.
2. How important is site security between sites?
This is along the same lines as point 1. This is not necessarily related to who you are hosting for, but what content you are hosting. Imagine that you are a webmaster and you are hosting your own personal site-in-a-box community forums (such as PHPBB or vBulliten) on your main domain and a company website for a paying client on an addon domain. It is not uncommon for popular scripts to have security flaws in older versions. Script authors will often update security flaws in later versions of their software. For this reason, it is very important to keep scripts up to date on your site. But let's assume you forget to update your scripts for a couple of months and an unscrupulous individual takes advantage of a well known security hole. Using this exploit, they gain access to your forums and any subdirectories. Since you are hosting another domain as an addon, they now have access to this domain's content as well. A site defacement on this company's site may not bode well for you when they are considering you for web master services in the future.
If these two domains had been separate into two individual users (i.e. two subaccounts created through a Reseller), their content would've been inherently isolated server side by Linux's user management. Sure, your forums still would've been affected by the security hole, but the break-in would've been isolated to your site alone.
Going back to our example, let's say that instead of a corporate website as an addon domain you are hosting an image gallery site for all of your cats. In this case, it may not be a big deal if a compromise in your main domain spreads to your addon domain. After all, they are both owned by you and you're only losing some time and effort to restore these sites from your local backups (which I'm sure you've actively maintained ). But then again, you are losing time and time is money. If these sites had been separated into individual users, again, you'd only have to restore one site's content.
The idea here is isolation. Reseller plans provide you with the peace of mind to know that if one of your users doesn't keep up with their site's content as actively as they should, their actions won't negatively impact the content hosted on other domains. If you and those you host in your addons are diligent webmasters, maybe this point won't have much bearing on your decision. Only you can say for sure.
3. Will these domains need SSLs?
As of this writing, SSL certificates must have a dedicated IP address to be installed. If you are hosting multiple domains on the same shared hosting package, you can still install an SSL (or purchase a dedicated IP address and install one) but you are limited to exactly one SSL on your account. If you are hosting multiple domains on the same package (and consequently the same IP), you must choose which domains gets to have the dedicated SSL.
Sub accounts of Resellers can each be placed onto separate IP addresses and, as a result, can each have their own dedicated SSL installed.
Of course, both shared accounts and Resellers' sub accounts can use the server's shared SSL free of charge. However, some clients prefer to see their domain in the URL bar when they visit https.
4. How resource intensive will these sites be (RAM, CPU, MySQL)?
We've already established that disk space and bandwidth will be no problem. But what about CPU, RAM, and MySQL resources?
It's important to be aware of the resource needs of your website. As administrators, we have to make sure all users "play nice" on the server. We can't have user X eating all of the CPU cycles computing pi to the trillionth decimal place while you are trying to serve web pages to your loyal visitors. We have to monitor the actions of all of our users and in the event someone is stepping beyond the bounds of acceptable resource consumption, we have to take action. In most cases, this entails disabling the abusive script, but in extreme cases we have to suspend the abusive user account to prevent other domains from encountering performance degradation on their sites.
If you are hosting 100 domains as addon domains, all serving nothing but static HTML pages, maybe you will stay off the radar.
But considering most sites are more complicated than static HTML, you may want to be aware of how many sites you host as addons and what content they serve. If you're hosting the latest and greatest Joomla modules, with up to date news feeds, integrated forums modules, polls, blog posts, etc your site can certainly require a degree of CPU to serve your pages. Now imagine you have 5 or 10 of these sites all hosted as addon domains. The resources these sites need to generate their content can quickly add up and before you know it you've got a friendly email from Acenet, Inc. in your inbox wondering why your user is consuming 2 of the 8 CPU cores on the server. That may be an exaggeration, but you get the idea. In the event your resource usage becomes so excessive that we have to suspend your user, now all of your sites are down instead of whichever one may be the direct cause of the spike in CPU, RAM, or MySQL consumption.
If each of these had been separate Reseller accounts, the offending account could've been suspended temporarily while we work through the cause, leaving the rest of your domains live and kicking.
The conclusion here is that you need to be aware of the needs of your sites in a general sense. Hosting unlimited domains within a shared hosting space is certainly a nice feature. For those webmasters who have multiple presences on the web, it's very convenient to be able to manage all of their personal domains from a single control panel. For those entrepreneurs who are hosting multiple domains for other individuals, the features and security associated with a Reseller plan and the inherent isolation of Linux users is a must have.
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I'have a problem with my aps setup on sanbox.When i create on customer ccp when i click finish i have this error. I must only test.
Error: Instance of application with id 124 and version '1-4' can not be provided: There is no resource of class 'Shared hosting Apache' with provisioning attributes 'Web Cluster' in subscription with id 1.:There is no resource of class 'Physical hosting (IIS)' with provisioning attributes 'Web Cluster' in subscription with id 1..If i add the shared hosting apache resourse i get this error : There are no "apache" services that satisfy given attributes: "Web Cluster".
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I'd like to get IP's direct from ARIN and use with a colo or dedicated server I run a few dozen domains almost all of which are ecommerce sites the ones which accept credit cards of course have SSL and a dedicated IP all the others right now are taking offline payments i'd like to get them all setup with SSL with their own IP since they are starting to bring in more sales. Sites right now are being hosted all over the place mainly vps and shared. I want to have them all on one or more servers that I have complete control over including the IP's. I'm new to the forums but did search for arin and read a few posts about the justification and from what I read SSL is justified to get IPs. Can anyone give me more information on what I should be doing first before applying or how to go about it with them. I'm looking at arin's fee schedule and i would apply under the x-small/micro allocation how much smaller from /20 do they go is there a specific number of IP's i would get for the app fee of $1250 a year or how does that work exactly?
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Which company would be better to choose for eCommerce hosting simplehelix.com or serverpoint.com?
The first one look like specialized in eCommerce hostting (only two plans, any type of eCommerce carts and magento dowloads, special server type) the seconed is just reliable and also provides support of any eCommerce carts.
What would be better? Where would you rather go?
So...a short little back story...
I started out with a reseller account at Webkore.net. Great company, I outgrew their services and moved to Innohosting over a year ago.
Before I moved to InnoHosting, I sent in a cancellation request (they use WHMCS)...but nothing was every canceled in their system and I kept getting invoices from them. I simply ignored them. Fair enough, right?
Now, as I've said...I've been with Inno for over a year now. In that past year Webkore.net seems to have been acquired by eCommerce Discovery.
Here is the weird problem. My account on their server was never deleted! I, as a reseller had WHMCS installed was using cron jobs to automatically send emails.
A few weeks ago, I started recieving cron job reports from cpsev1.wirednoc.net, a domain owned by eCommerce Discovery. I really wouldn't care too much, but apparently the whole WHMCS system is still active and is sending my clients emails (Invoice reminders, domain renewal reminders, etc etc...).
This is obviously something that needs to be dealt with as it's getting a little out of hand. I only had 35 clients in WHMCS when I was with them...all of which are still with me.
I've called the number at this page:
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multiple times only to be forwarded to a voice message. I just now actually left my voice message. Emails to Webkore.net have gone unanswered for 6 months, so I'm not even going to bother with that.
What I don't understand is how my account, over a year old and unpaid, is still not only ON the server...but ACTIVE, unsuspended, and running cron jobs. I'm going to shoot eCommerce Discovery an email shortly and will update this thread if they reply, although...chances don't look good.
I have 2 ecommerce sites now hosted at 2 different shared locations, both sites offer same exact products and pricing. I am in the process of elancing out the recode/rebuild for both sites to share one mysql database, cart and to be housed together in one VPS.
I plan to put them both on 1 windows VPS (they are asp) each with its own separate IP but have heard this can cause problems with search engines especially google. I have great natural organic right now (1st position for 5 of my demo keywords) and dont want to put that at risk but getting really tired of 2 separate backends, carts, hosting etc..
How long do you wait before moving from shared to VPS or dedicated? Apart from security and speed, what are the benefits of dedicated hosting? This says [url] that shared is better than dedicated because you have to do less..
View 14 Replies View RelatedI have visited a website ( i dont remember the address or its name) which had some tools to check stuff like the whois of the domain, the location of an ip etc.
Also it had a tool where you have your servers ip, and if the ip had several sites on it (shared hosting enviroment) it would make a list of all the sites with that ip....
where I can find that tool or something like that?
I am thinking about moving hosts and I have some RapidSSL SSL Certificates and PositiveSSL (Free from Namecheap) SSL Certificates
I was wondering can I get these moved over to the new host, if I could bring the SSL Certificates without having to have either get a re-issue of the SSL Certificate or buy new ssl Certificates.
I still have the CSR, Private Key from WHM/cPanel and I would be moving to another WHM/cPanel shared hosting account
I have decided to change my current webhost. Recently I have started seeing a lot of downtime. For a long time I was thinking about moving to a VPS. Unfortunately, I don't have any experience managing one. But I am willing to take any hardship to learn setting up and managing a VPS. The main set back here is that my budget is (very) limited (max $12/month). I have seen some hosts offering VPS for rates that are within the above budget.
Can you plz suggest which is better for me? Shared or VPS?
I own about 10 websites presently, but the number is going to increase as I am planning to take web designing seriously. But none of them are high traffic, infact my current monthly traffic is only 15-20GB.
What I want is a host that provide somewhat good customer support ( support ticket system that gets responded within an hour is fine with me), good uptime and allow me to host multiple domains hassle free.
I have been using a shared hosting. My current host has had some unreliable services from time to time in the past. Lately, the primary reason for my decision to leave my current host is that few (or more than few) of my paid subscribers and non-paid visitors said that my website has been down for some time or for weeks or more even *after* they were able to view the site; however, it IS up and running fine for the majority of the users and myself.
What are the possible reasons for being able to view the site for a while but then later find the site down to a few users for weeks or more but the site is up and running fine for most of other people and myself? The "down" shouldn't be "selective" to some people.
Before leaving the current host, I need to know why it happens so that I can choose the right host and the right plan (and shared hosting vs VPS).
About two months ago, my site was hosted on a shared server. I had no problems on a shared server, but I felt like trying something new, so I switched over to a VPS. Right now I have a plan that offers 384MB RAM, 150GB bandwidth, and 15GB disk space. I do monitor my resources, and I'm finding out that I'm hardly using any RAM at all. I check the System Usage meter a couple times a day, and it's always at 100%. My CPU usage levels reach 10% at most.
Should I stick with this VPS or downgrade to a smaller plan? I'm obviously not using up all my resources, so I think it's kind of a waste to fork out $40/month for something I'm not completely using. I'm unsure on whether or not I should go for a smaller VPS or a shared server. I mostly want to lower my budget to a maximum of $20/month. If I do go to a smaller VPS, I would need managed services. For a shared server, I would need at least 100GB of bandwidth, PHP5, and SSH.
I am leaning towards going back to a shared server, but I would like some second opinions.
I am considering going for a VPS after lurker here for a while. I currently have 2 shared hosting reseller accounts that are really outdated. I need to upgrade but didn't know which way to turn.
I only host my own sites at present but might start niche webhosting in the future. I feel I should move to to vps but still dont know why. I guess I dont want to get let behind with technology.
I have around $40 a month to spend, any help would be great.
As you know, many HP like dreamhost, bluehost, ipowerweb, hostgator, 5site, brinkster, netfirms.
So, i wonder that is there a rank try to sort these HP order by speed, support, and all over.
I had been used dreamhost and thinking they are the best shared hosting.
I'm also looking for a ranking in shared hosting but dont know where to find, can you tell me?
I use shared web hosting service to get my website online. I'm wondering how many people use dedicated servers or virtual private servers instead and pay from $20 to several hundreds of dollars? Will I face any big problem with shared web hosting package which makes me choose dedicated servers?
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