HighPoint RocketRAID 3120 | Cheapest True H/W RAID | Any Experiences

May 11, 2008

It seems the HighPoint-RocketRAID 3120 is the cheapest 2 port hardware SATA2 RAID out there with advertised windows, linux, freebsd and mac support based on Marvell IOP and 128MB RAM. They say the drivers have been backported to centos redhat/kernels already.

Does anyone have any experiences with this card?

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first server which seems to be OK, no any lag/iowait even at peak:

Quote:

root@server1 [~]# fdisk -l

Disk /dev/sda: 500.0 GB, 500028145664 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 60791 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes

Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
/dev/sda1 * 1 25 200781 83 Linux
/dev/sda2 26 1069 8385930 82 Linux swap / Solaris
/dev/sda3 1070 60791 479716965 83 Linux

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/dev/sda1 190M 16M 165M 9% /boot
tmpfs 3.9G 0 3.9G 0% /dev/shm
/usr/tmpDSK 485M 20M 440M 5% /tmp

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Linux 2.6.18-8.el5 (server1) 08/16/2008 _x86_64_

avg-cpu: %user %nice %system %iowait %steal %idle
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Device: tps Blk_read/s Blk_wrtn/s Blk_read Blk_wrtn
sda 205.83 6860.21 3175.99 624419964 289080668

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RocketRAID 174x controller driver v1.02 (Apr 17 2007 08:55:58)

Controller 1: RocketRAID 174x Controller
------------------------------------------------
1/1/1 ST3500630AS , 500028MB, Normal [RA][WC][NCQ]
1/2/1 ST3500630AS , 500028MB, Normal [RA][WC][NCQ]

Logical devices
------------------------------------------------
[DISK 0_0] RAID_1_0 (RAID1), 500028MB, Normal
1/1/1 ST3500630AS
1/2/1 ST3500630S

You see just /dev/sda devices there

second server which lags on very little traffic, seems wrong/fake RAID to me:

Quote:

root@server2 [~]# fdisk -l

Disk /dev/sda: 500.0 GB, 500028145664 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 60791 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes

Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
/dev/sda1 * 1 13 104391 83 Linux
/dev/sda2 14 60791 488199285 8e Linux LVM

root@server2 [~]# df -h
Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on
/dev/mapper/VolGroup00-LogVol00
450G 267G 160G 63% /
/dev/sda1 99M 17M 78M 18% /boot
tmpfs 3.9G 0 3.9G 0% /dev/shm
/usr/tmpDSK 485M 52M 408M 12% /tmp

root@server2 [~]# iostat
Linux 2.6.18-8.el5 (server2) 08/16/2008 _x86_64_

avg-cpu: %user %nice %system %iowait %steal %idle
3.90 5.08 8.91 19.43 0.00 65.87

Device: tps Blk_read/s Blk_wrtn/s Blk_read Blk_wrtn
sda 181.08 6127.08 898.54 567307120 83196392
dm-0 267.89 6126.90 898.54 567290250 83196184
dm-1 0.00 0.01 0.00 896 168

root@server2 [~]# lspci | grep -i raid
03:00.0 SCSI storage controller: HighPoint Technologies, Inc. RocketRAID 1740 (rev 02)

root@server2 [~]# cat /proc/scsi/rr174x/0
RocketRAID 174x controller driver v1.02 (Apr 17 2007 08:55:58)

Controller 1: RocketRAID 174x Controller
------------------------------------------------
1/1/1 SAMSUNG HD501LJ , 500028MB, Normal [RA][WC][NCQ]
1/2/1 SAMSUNG HD501LJ , 500028MB, Normal [RA][WC][NCQ]

Logical devices
------------------------------------------------
[DISK 0_0] RAID_1_0 (RAID1), 500028MB, Normal
1/1/1 SAMSUNG HD501LJ
1/2/1 SAMSUNG HD501LJ

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