Forums Outgrowing Shared Hosting Plan Already
Jan 7, 2009
I have spent several hours on this forum over the past few days doing some research and have officially confused myself. I am a volunteer with a nonprofit organization and our online forums (running on vbulletin) are maxing out the database SQL connections several times per day. The host has a max_user_connections limit of 15 but doesn't have an intermediary step from shared hosting to dedicated hosting. Dedicated hosting is cost-prohibitive and the rest of our site has more than enough room to grow on our current hosting plan (including traffic bandwidth, disk space, etc).
We are planning to register a new domain name for the forums and move them off to another hosting provider. I donate the hosting fees to the organization and I don't have much of a budget to work with ($20/mo or so ideally). I am looking for recommendations for a hosting provider that will support a somewhat busy forum (usually only between 30-50 users online at once but anywhere between 1,000 and 2,500 pageviews per day) and also allow a stepped growth plan (instead of from shared straight to dedicated.)
I've seen Hawk Host, Siteground and URLJet mentioned frequently on posts here and over at vBulletin but I don't want to just jump into a new host and face a similar problem in the future.
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Oct 3, 2007
The more I read on the forum, the more I'm beginning to consider a reseller plan.
Basically, I'm an ASP.NET/MS-SQL developer and I foresee myself developing (and possibly managing) a relatively small number of websites for people who likely have neither the technical skills nor desire to get too involved with maintaining their websites. So, I need to be able to host multiple domains, have multiple databases, and probably multiple FTP accounts.
The obvious advantage of reseller accounts, as I understand them, is that they give you the ability to provide the website owner (my customer) the tools to manage their site in more or less the same way they could if they directly set up their hosting account with GoDaddy or whomever. But, if my customers end up being people that don't want to mess with any of that, then this capability is not important. However, after looking at ResellerZoom.com, which I saw recommended in another thread, it seems the sheer capacity of resources available, e.g. unlimited databases, 200 domains, make it worth the slightly higher cost.
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Jun 24, 2008
I've dozens of domains which don't have heavy traffic. I wanna host them on different IP's for SEO reason. I can share IP's with other users but evch domain of mine shall be hosted on a unique IP.
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Jun 22, 2008
Over the past 4 years I have had 5 different hosting companies. I run a small forum (400 to 1k page vies per day) and is a nuke forum. It usually runs flawlessly on the new host for 7 to 9 months and then the db bogs down and I switch to a new host and install the complete db again to the days postings and it runs gr8 yet again.
Im no expert but Im no newb either. I have worked for 2 hosting companies (Hostgator & Applied Innovations) and I have my Bachelors in IT. I know enough to be dangerous! Is there anyone who can tell me if there is a host that I can put my little forums on that doesnt charge an arm and a leg and is reliable enough to stay with.
I have seen all the reviews all over the place, but from working at hostgator I know they have their level 2 support people logging in to these types of forums as different people and posting great reviews every day, I dont think they have stopped doing that.
Is there any one who has been with their hosting co for years and have a site like mine that can say that they recommend it?
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Apr 21, 2009
Where can I get a DDoS protected shared plan?
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Apr 21, 2009
know a hosting company with a plan or an option to have access to unlimited IP address?
Or at least near it, like new 20 IP's/month would be ok i think
No matter if its shared hosting, vps or dedicated, if you know a company that offers it,
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Dec 14, 2007
I switched to HostGator because they had PDO drivers enabled on shared hosting plans with PHP 5 & MySql 5. The problem is that every time they update PHP (4 times in 8 months now) they don’t include PDO in the build and its takes day to get past level 1 support and get it fixed.
So I’m looking for a “Reliable” host. I had a hard time when I switched to HG finding shared hosting plans with PDO enabled.
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Nov 7, 2009
Staminus Communications has been hosting a botnet forum, which distributes bots, worms, trojans, illegal clickers, and tons more, 95% of the site is illegal, and is forbidden by Staminus's provider yet they could care less as long as they get there money, I sent an abuse letter August 17th 2009, they even admitted things were illegal on the site, I pointed out several like the Google Adsense clicker bot which is highly illegal and which is nothing close to the other content hosted and/or linked to.
They are hosting unkn0wn.ws they refuse to remove the site or make them remove the illegal content which is most of the forum, which now forces me to send a letter to there provider and the cybercrime which I am now doing.
Now I guess they do not care about what they host, only if the person pays, so I guess I'm just going to expose it here for everyone to notice, because it's just going to get there data center raided over time by hosting illegal content and not removing it.
Let's see what you guys think, or what the admins have to say when they read this post.
What do you guys think when a provider does nothing about illegal content do you think it's the employee's that are at fault or the customer?
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May 3, 2009
By shared plan I mean affordable $8 per month shared plans offered by most cheap hosting providers.
By using wordpress without wp-cache plugin, what's the maximum daily pageviews / page refreshes a shared plan can handle? I mean, in terms of CPU load, before having to upgrade to a VPS plan or sth.
Can anyone give me an approx figure? I'm thinking, if you got 1 visit every 3 seconds, it's 28800 pageviews a day? Any shared plan can handle that right? No other crazy stuff at all, just one domain on wordpress with pure text posts.
I know things vary host by host, but can you give me your own estimation on this?
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Feb 21, 2015
I have a client on a dedicated IP, today we needed to downgrade the web hosting plan. As the web hosting plan puts users on a default shared IP, this plan change also changed the dedicated IP to the shared one causing some propagation issues for a small period of time.
I have contacted WHMCS about this asking if they had a way of changing the clients plan but keeping the IP address intact as this could lead to some very undesirable outcomes. They explained that it is not their fault and to contact Parallels.
I know I can change the plan directly in Plesk however by initiating the plan change via WHMCS, everything is automated.
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Mar 23, 2009
This is not an issue I am currently facing but I like to look ahead and make plans - I am certainly hoping I outgrow my hosting because that would mean I've become more successful.
Anyway my question is this - for a small time website owner like myself, if I outgrow a dedicated server (for an image hosting website) what is the next step up in terms of high bandwidth hosting?
I know nothing about technical server admin, and even a 100mbps managed server will eventually become overloaded if things keep growing. Are there companies that specialise in this kind of thing?
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Sep 27, 2007
I am searching hosting plans. I found 1&1 Beginner hosting plan for £2.99/year of
1and1Uk at dealsofuk.com.
I want your review about that site and the plan & facilities. Also suggest me any good hosting plan (if you have) in this price range and its facilities.
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Jun 2, 2014
I like to create some service plans using the cli-tools, /usr/local/psa/bin/service_plan.I am able to create a service plan, but I'm unable to create a service plan inside a reseller plan. For example I cannot "tell" the service_plan script to add the created serviceplan to a reseller plan. Is it possible to create a serviceplan inside a reseller plan, using the cli?
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May 19, 2009
The great team over at Pair has treated our website (www.Team-BHP.com) exceedingly well. In fact, I'd also posted a review of my experience way back in 2005 (Linky). I'm a pretty demanding customer, yet have no complaints with Pair through this long association. Says a lot, wot?
However, I see Team-BHP outgrowing Pair in the near future. Our traffic increases by atleast 25 - 30% each quarter, and we are currently hosting on the QS5 server level. The server does choke occasionally during peak hours, hence an upgrade is inevitable sooner rather than later. The next (and final) level of upgrade from Pair is the QS6.....which is pretty expensive @ $1,500 bucks a month! I've seen other hosts offering the same kind of juice for half the money, yet never moved away from Pair simply because of their solid service + uptime. However, now that we are growing (and are poised for a more fruitful future ), what are some viable options I can look at?
Our requirement is QUALITY : Outstanding levels of service, uptime, reliability & security are imperative.
1. Any other reputable hosts that you may recommend? Our requirement would be standard fare for a medium size website (dual xeon, 8gb ram, 3 or 4 15K SAS raid 10 hard disks, backup, 100Mbs public + 1000Mbs private port and about 3000 GB of bandwith a month)?
2. Is co-location a good idea, considering that our core team really isn't all that tech-friendly?
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Apr 9, 2009
India's Best Web Hosting Plan - 5 GB Space, Free Domain Name,
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Just check it out at quick2host.com/web-hosting/windows-hosting/windows-gold-plan.asp
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Jan 15, 2007
I found this site with 6.95 hosting a while back and had it saved in my fav... but my comp crashed god forbid and I had to format now I lost it...
The site had something rediculous like 3GB space and 5-10GB bandwidth... there was a $30 setup fee but it was 6.95 after that... Anyone know of this site? or anything that tops it?
Also the part I liked most was that they accepted paypal... Which was simply amazing for me.
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Feb 5, 2009
I registered a domain with the godaddy.com. I also have a free web hosting plan attached to it. Now i purchased(not upgraded) a new web hosting plan(economy plan.). Now I want to attach my domain with the new hosting plan. But the godaddy is not allowing me to do so.
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Dec 2, 2008
I currently have a small hosting plan (4 gb traffic , 400 Mb space) that I use for a few email accounts from my company.However , the disk space is not enough for what we need so I have to move the emails to another hosting plan. I'm looking for something with 5-10 gb space , 10-20 gb traffic/month , unlimited email accounts. I'm not looking for it to be cheap , just dont like the overselling idea for my hosting needs so I can pay if it's good. Also I was wondering what kind of program do I need in order to create a webmail interface so that the employees could check their email without having to use the webmail clients from cPanel.
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Jan 18, 2007
I see Site5 have a 5 dollar deal on their homepage, but I don't know if it's any good. I hear from a lot of people to get a reseller account if you plan to make a lot of websites. It's more expensive than the 5 dollar plan with less bandwidth and storage, so there got to be something to it. What are the benefits of a reseller account compared to that 5 dollar deal plan?
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Aug 5, 2008
Our website/app is on a shared host (downtownhost.com - who are great btw - I strongly recommend them).
Now have a question for the experts here:
We have come up with a plan to give away some freebies to our visitors and we feel there is a very good chance that we will be digg 'ed/Stumble 'd.
I need suggestions from experts as to how to go about this from a hosting perspective.
1. Go for Amazon or Gogrid.com?
2. Go for mediatemple.com or mosso.com? Not sure with all the reviews posted here.
I don't want to go for a full blown clustered hosting - with high fixed costs - we won't mind paying based on how successful or not our 'freebie' exercise works.
A little bit about our site - it's an ecommerce site running on LAMP and uses imagemagick. Users upload images to our site and
tell us what they want with an annotation tool in a UI. We give em a price and they can pay us. They pick up the edited image back on our site when it's ready
- Sorry bout not being able to give you any 'technical' details about CPU usage etc., - I am more of a layman! But as I said a shared account at downtownhost.com seems to be holding up. Our current traffic averages about 100-200 visitors a day - with an average of about 50 images uploaded everyday.
- Think that the above description should give a fair idea of computing/resource requirements.
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Is there any sites which provide web hosting and search engine advertisement in one plan?
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May 31, 2009
I'm about to the point where I am ready to host my website. I already have a domain but no hosting plan. In the future I may want to have several different websites each with their own unique domain. I was wondering if I choose a hosting plan for one site, can I use the unused web space for additional domains/websites?
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Wich is the most adequate hosting plan to install a Magento E-Commerce Online Store with:
Number of products: 100 to 300
Number os Visitor / Moth: 10.000 to 80.000
I will need a Shared Accout, VPS, or Dedicated Server?
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Nov 3, 2008
I've officially decided to go with Hostgator but I'm having a hard time choosing which type of plan would make the most sense for; maybe there is something I'm not seeing and I'm hoping to get some additional insight...
Here is my plan; I plan on hosting multiple domains (business and personal) and atleast one e commerce website to start and it will eventually grow into about 5 down the road (this is going to be a drawn out process and I want to do it right).
The problem I have is I realize in order to get a true ecommerce website up in running I will need a dedicated IP address and SSL certificate for each site. If I purchase the Business plan it only comes with one dedicated IP and one SSL cert; Hostgator also told me that I'm unable to add an additional dedicated IP address or SSL cert to the business plan so I would have to purchase an additional Business Plan (12.95) per each site. It sounds like I could still host private and not SSL required sites on the business plan and as much domains as I want.
If I go the reseller path then the cost per month will be twice as much as the Business Plan and there is no dedicated IP address included. I will also have to purchase dedicated IP addresses at 2.00 a month and SSL certs as well so that method could get expensive.
I'm also not sure if the baby plan would suffice as well, but apparently not because there is a limit of 1 dedicated IP per plan
What would you guys recommend I do; I want a plan that will allow me to grow with them.
Just curious on what your guys thoughts were..
Also I read a previous post in this forum that someone said their SSL cert prompted the end-user to install the certificate; Being in Ecommerce this is obviously unacceptable to me.
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Jul 3, 2014
OSMicrosoft Windows Server 2008 R2 Service Pack 1
Panel version11.5.30 Update #47
We have a few hosting plans setup with different "allowances" for each.The website permissions allow basic html and PHP.In Windows Advanced: The website settings allow for html, php, asp and asp.net
When we change a Basic Hosting plan to Windows Advanced using "Change Plan", it will reassign the subscription/domain to use the new plan, but it will not add-on the extra features in Hosting Settings.
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Apr 23, 2009
I'm trying to find at least three web hosting companies to choose from to host a Joomla websites on a shared server. Would consider dedicated if the deal was right. I have a friend of mine who wants to create a church website, and is looking for the best deal. I use Netfirms which I have never had an issue with, but I didn't want to be bias, and would like give him other options to choose from.
Is there a good WebHosting Review site, I could check out, or maybe someone could recommend their top three. I reading threw the forums here and I noticed there are not that many complaints with Hostgator. Again, I just want to see if there was anything out there better.
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Apr 2, 2009
This question gets asked a lot in our Helpdesk and I figured I would post our knowledgebase article here to help anyone else wondering the Pros and Cons of Unlimited Domain Shared Hosting vs. Reseller Hosting. If anyone has anything else to add, I appreciate any feedback on how we can improve our KB article.
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Given the present state of shared hosting, many clients may ask "Why would I need a Reseller account if I can host unlimited Addon and Parked domains within a single shared hosting account?". There is certainly enough Disk Space and Bandwidth provided in many of today's hosting packages, so why bother to purchase a Reseller account?
Many don't realize the drawbacks of hosting large numbers of domains within a single hosting account until they've already packed tens of them onto a single package.
So how do you know whether a Reseller account or Shared Hosting account is right for you? The answer is in how you plan to provide access to others and how "mission-critical" the sites are. You should consider the following factors when deciding on hosting a large number of domains:
1. Who will be managing these sites?
2. How important is site security between sites?
3. Will these domains need dedicated SSLs?
4. How resource intensive will these sites be (RAM, CPU, MySQL)?
In a nutshell, Reseller plans are for those who wish to host websites for other sub-clients and a shared hosting package is for a single individual managing multiple personal domains. We'll go over the 4 points above in greater detail.
1. Who will be managing these site?
If you personally own multiple domains and wish to host them within the same hosting space, you can easily do so with an Addon or Parked domain. An addon domain will allow you to host a new domain within a subdirectory of your hosting space. A parked domain will allow you to have multiple domain names point to the same content. Since addon domains reside within the same user space as your main domain, you can manage all of your domains with a single login. You can see the problem if you want to provide another user with access. Since all accounts are managed with a single set of login credentials, if you give another user access to their addon domain you are also giving them access to your main domain. If you have vital information stored on your main domain and you are hosting another domain as an addon domain for someone else, you cannot provide them access to their hosting without compromising the integrity of your main domain.
When hosting sites as a Reseller, your clients in turn will want access to their account and will want exclusive rights to their disk space and server resources. With a Reseller account, each sub-account you create gets its own username, password, and isolated user space on the server. Individual clients of yours have access to their user space and their user space alone. In addition to the isolation with regards to access concerns, each account also gets their own cPanel access. All of the same great features that you use to manage your sites can also be given to your clients. Next time client Y wants to add an email account, you don't have to do it for them for fear of giving them access to your cPanel, you can simply give them their login details and they can manage their own email accounts.
2. How important is site security between sites?
This is along the same lines as point 1. This is not necessarily related to who you are hosting for, but what content you are hosting. Imagine that you are a webmaster and you are hosting your own personal site-in-a-box community forums (such as PHPBB or vBulliten) on your main domain and a company website for a paying client on an addon domain. It is not uncommon for popular scripts to have security flaws in older versions. Script authors will often update security flaws in later versions of their software. For this reason, it is very important to keep scripts up to date on your site. But let's assume you forget to update your scripts for a couple of months and an unscrupulous individual takes advantage of a well known security hole. Using this exploit, they gain access to your forums and any subdirectories. Since you are hosting another domain as an addon, they now have access to this domain's content as well. A site defacement on this company's site may not bode well for you when they are considering you for web master services in the future.
If these two domains had been separate into two individual users (i.e. two subaccounts created through a Reseller), their content would've been inherently isolated server side by Linux's user management. Sure, your forums still would've been affected by the security hole, but the break-in would've been isolated to your site alone.
Going back to our example, let's say that instead of a corporate website as an addon domain you are hosting an image gallery site for all of your cats. In this case, it may not be a big deal if a compromise in your main domain spreads to your addon domain. After all, they are both owned by you and you're only losing some time and effort to restore these sites from your local backups (which I'm sure you've actively maintained ). But then again, you are losing time and time is money. If these sites had been separated into individual users, again, you'd only have to restore one site's content.
The idea here is isolation. Reseller plans provide you with the peace of mind to know that if one of your users doesn't keep up with their site's content as actively as they should, their actions won't negatively impact the content hosted on other domains. If you and those you host in your addons are diligent webmasters, maybe this point won't have much bearing on your decision. Only you can say for sure.
3. Will these domains need SSLs?
As of this writing, SSL certificates must have a dedicated IP address to be installed. If you are hosting multiple domains on the same shared hosting package, you can still install an SSL (or purchase a dedicated IP address and install one) but you are limited to exactly one SSL on your account. If you are hosting multiple domains on the same package (and consequently the same IP), you must choose which domains gets to have the dedicated SSL.
Sub accounts of Resellers can each be placed onto separate IP addresses and, as a result, can each have their own dedicated SSL installed.
Of course, both shared accounts and Resellers' sub accounts can use the server's shared SSL free of charge. However, some clients prefer to see their domain in the URL bar when they visit https.
4. How resource intensive will these sites be (RAM, CPU, MySQL)?
We've already established that disk space and bandwidth will be no problem. But what about CPU, RAM, and MySQL resources?
It's important to be aware of the resource needs of your website. As administrators, we have to make sure all users "play nice" on the server. We can't have user X eating all of the CPU cycles computing pi to the trillionth decimal place while you are trying to serve web pages to your loyal visitors. We have to monitor the actions of all of our users and in the event someone is stepping beyond the bounds of acceptable resource consumption, we have to take action. In most cases, this entails disabling the abusive script, but in extreme cases we have to suspend the abusive user account to prevent other domains from encountering performance degradation on their sites.
If you are hosting 100 domains as addon domains, all serving nothing but static HTML pages, maybe you will stay off the radar.
But considering most sites are more complicated than static HTML, you may want to be aware of how many sites you host as addons and what content they serve. If you're hosting the latest and greatest Joomla modules, with up to date news feeds, integrated forums modules, polls, blog posts, etc your site can certainly require a degree of CPU to serve your pages. Now imagine you have 5 or 10 of these sites all hosted as addon domains. The resources these sites need to generate their content can quickly add up and before you know it you've got a friendly email from Acenet, Inc. in your inbox wondering why your user is consuming 2 of the 8 CPU cores on the server. That may be an exaggeration, but you get the idea. In the event your resource usage becomes so excessive that we have to suspend your user, now all of your sites are down instead of whichever one may be the direct cause of the spike in CPU, RAM, or MySQL consumption.
If each of these had been separate Reseller accounts, the offending account could've been suspended temporarily while we work through the cause, leaving the rest of your domains live and kicking.
The conclusion here is that you need to be aware of the needs of your sites in a general sense. Hosting unlimited domains within a shared hosting space is certainly a nice feature. For those webmasters who have multiple presences on the web, it's very convenient to be able to manage all of their personal domains from a single control panel. For those entrepreneurs who are hosting multiple domains for other individuals, the features and security associated with a Reseller plan and the inherent isolation of Linux users is a must have.
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I am developing a website for a client of mine (the client is a close friend and know's that he is getting a newbie). This site will be larger (project wise) than anything that I have ever done (everything I have done in the past has been FrontPage). We will be using several third party applications that need to run on the server as well as our own custom developed applications. We do not yet know how much access to the server's deeper structures we will need for all of the applications that we want loaded on our server to run. Things we have in mind: oscommerce, mysql, php5, apache, linux, vbulletin, blogger, phpbb, adserver, ect... Would these things run ok on a shared host and would I have full authority to configure them without needing full access to the server? Or will I need access to the entire server (dedicated server) in order to have full customization capabilities? I guess all I am trying to figure out at this point is will shared hosting for a large project limit our abilities to use 3rd party apps, or do most 3rd party application designers build their stuff to work in a shared hosting environment anyway? If we need to get a dedicated server we will, but if we can get away with shared hosting for a while (especially during development when the site will not be generating revenue) it would be nice to avoid the price of a dedicated server. Many thanks for your comments, insight, and expertise! Also, if anyone can sight some common scenarios that may require a dedicated server over a shared hosting plan, that may help me to understand what the limitations of a shared hosting plan vs. a deicated or virtual dedicated server are.
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