Dedicated, VPS, Or Grid
Apr 26, 2008
I'm attracted to the luster and flexibility of the grid server world and have spent time with on the phone with ENKIconsulting.net (great people) and Mediatemple (salesy people).
ENKIconsulting.net is out of my price range to start and I have been hearing less than nice things about Mediatemple.
---Situation---
I am launching a site running wordpress blog, php bullentin board, customer service support suite, and amember membership script.
My goal is to have room to grow (very quickly) but start off small/cheap with no/minimal downtime or switching costs involved in migration to a dedicated.
My actual "hard numbers" are unknown... visitors, bandwidth, and page KB size, but what is known is that the marketing behind the launch could draw 1000 visitors to the within a day and up to 10,000 and want to be ready.
My budget is pretty small, and need to stay under 100 a month (during the alpha and beta of the site) but once live money will be much less of an issue.
I'm not a webmaster or server admin, and need excellent customer service from the hosting company (telephone and email) and I'm comfortable to used the fun and easy GUI of cpanel to run the show.
---With the above said---
(1) Is there a grid solution out there that is recommended?
(2) If not, what specifications CPU/RAM/HDD fit my needs
(3) Dedicated? Semi-Dedicated?
(4) Are their hosting companies that allow some degree of scale (RAM/CPU/HDD)within a shared semi dedicated environment?
(5) If not and my resource need jump, how difficult is it to provision and migrate an the entire site to a dedicated box?
Basically I am looking for a strong recommendation for hosting that has a platform that allows quick and easy scalability, excellent customer service, reasonable prices (not cheapest), and a friendly web-admin backoffice.
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Mar 27, 2009
I was looking at Godaddy's grid servers and it says you can have unlimited concurrent connections:
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With dedicated servers if you wanted to have 2 million concurrent users you would need hundreds of dedicated servers in a cluster, but Godaddy grid hosting can do this for $4.99/month:
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Of course currently give users unlimited compute cycles so if they start charging it could increase the price but godaddy don't charge for ram. Of course if you needed more bandwidth you can buy more.
Sure, Godaddy grid hosting doesn't allow videos on your server(embed's allowed) but you wanted to have a website that was at the top of digg and worldwide media outlets reported it, Godady grid hosting would be great for this.
So i guess if i had to choose between a dedicated server and godaddy grid hosting for a forum, i would choose grid hosting because i can have unlimited users online at the same time and not have to worry about cpu load.
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Jan 12, 2009
how's media temple these days?
In particular the grid service.
Does their service stay up? How often is it down? I heard a lot of horror stories back in the day, and went with another provider.
Sadly, my current provider has had a string of downtime each day and I'm looking to switch.
Before I go with another provider, i want to make sure that MT's grid service is good.
And how it would compare with their dedicated virtual service.
Especially when you consider their dedicated virtual service compared to the gs with a mysql container.
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Apr 9, 2008
I'm planning on launching a php-based web application within a month or two and am weighing different hosting options. I was almost certain with my plan to use two dedicated servers (one for web, one for db) but I can't help reading about all of these new grid/cloud/utility hosting solutions that promise instant scalability and deployment - which sounds like a blessing. I know there is a lot of garbage and marketing hype so I felt I should ask what the real deal is. Are these services reliable, worth using, really that easy to use, powerful, etc? I was looking at gogrid's demo videos and to instantly launch a few web servers, a db server, load balancer, etc, in 15 minutes for 30% of the cost - I can't ignore it.
So whats the deal?
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May 28, 2009
i have a mt site and it is being moved. when the dns propogates, how will i be able to access my mt site? i have the ip address and it doesnt load anything. i want an address to give others until the new site is working.
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Dec 14, 2008
i am hosting 3 sites on my shared hosting plan at startlogic. I need to upgrade but i have a small budget. Gridservice is cheaper and it does not require as much server work. I don't really know anything about server work if that makes a difference.
Which option should i go for and what are the pros/cons of each.
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Sep 27, 2007
I have 4 of these xeon servers, i want to setup a grid environment...
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Mar 24, 2007
I recently heard of a new term i.e. Grid Hosting?
Can anybody explain what exactly it is?
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Jun 21, 2007
I've narrowed my search to VPS and Grid service for my website. Which do think is better for a forum with 1000-1500 members. 50 online simultaneously?
Which linux distribution is best for vBulletin?Ubuntu Dapper
Centos 4.3
Gentoo 2006.1
Debian Etch
Fedora 6
Any recommendation? VPS - there are lots to choose from and Grid service - I just feel mediatemplate.net is best?
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Apr 3, 2008
In our company we want to start working with grid hosting, but where to start? What is the best software solution?
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Dec 20, 2007
3Tera's AppLogic could be the expeditor of a lot of small and medium dreams. I read the whopping 28 pages thread about TGL, it sure got my juices running. With enough time, the grid could evolve into something close to a Matrix (and hence the thread title).
Yet it seems it wasn't stable yet (at that time). And 3Tera and TGL were talking about features yet to come. So my question is:
Is their service stable yet?
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Jan 6, 2007
if anyone is/has used the new grid hosting system from MediaTemple? It seems like a breakthrough to me. Kind of like Amazon's S3 service which we are using for a new super cool 3D Internet technology vastpark.com (Shameless self promotion).
But back to MT. It's $20 p.m. and gives you 100Gb and claims to be fast, so I'm going to give it a go soon, but wanted to know if others had and what they thought. It seems to be missing a backup process. You can buy backup as extra but I think it's still up to you to script the backups and damn it, I'm lazy!
By the way, I'll want to host Joomla sites and SugarCRM sites (both are fairly greedy and I normally run them on a dedicated machine with 2 gb of ram). I reckon it could be a nice way of offering cheaper hosting to some of my clients.
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Oct 18, 2008
I currently own a reasonably sized VPS paying around 40/$80 a month for it. I am extremely happy with the service but I have recently move from freelance to being hired by a company.
I wish to scale down my costs so looking at other options.
I hear a lot (mostly good) of things about MT and was wondering what peoples experiences are - particular with ease of use, support and uptime.
I would also like to know about how the normal shared hosting option works for people hosting some clients website and email. I currently have around 10 clients hosting with me and 100 emails. Is it easy for clients to use and i assume pop and imap are supported.
I currently run my VPS on cpanel. would it be easy to transfer everything or is it very much of a manual job?
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Mar 26, 2009
Some information about my forum:
I run a VBulletin forum with - 575,614 post, 14,369 members and 2.9 million page views per month. On average there are 300 - 400 people on the site.
The server right now is a Linux CentOS VPS with 1.1 gigs of memory. The hosting provider keeps telling me that I need a dedicated server.
Question # 1 - In your opinion - do you think its time for a dedicated server?
The server I am looking at has these stats:
E8300
2 GB RAM
250GB HD
cPanel
Management
The price I was given is pretty good. So the offer is going to be hard to pass up.
Question # 2 - Has anyone here used Future Hosting for their dedicated server solution?
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Sep 8, 2008
I have an account that is going from a shared hosting account to a dedicated with theplanet and I want to transfer it. Concerns I have is that the site is using an SSL. What things do I need to watch out for when transferring. Since I don't have root access I will have to do this transfer with the account function, correct?
This site has a database and SSL, so I thought it would hopefully be easier to use the cpanel account migration tool
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Sep 3, 2007
What is the difference between Dedicated Virtual vs Regular Dedicated Server?
Also what are the pros and cons of going with Virtual?
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Apr 1, 2008
to move from shared windows hosting to Dedicated windows hosting. This will be our first dedicated server and experience with dealing it too.
Someone suggested me Rackspace. But they were charging premium rates 440 USD for entry level windows server.
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Apr 7, 2009
I use shared web hosting service to get my website online. I'm wondering how many people use dedicated servers or virtual private servers instead and pay from $20 to several hundreds of dollars? Will I face any big problem with shared web hosting package which makes me choose dedicated servers?
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Jan 25, 2009
i would just want to get your inputs if which server performs faster or better:
VPS running in Core2Quad @ 2.40GHz with 12 gb of ram
guaranteed 1.7 Ghz CPU
guaranteed 1 GB memory burstable to 2 GB
170 GB disk
or
Dedicated server
Celeron 1.7 GHz
1 GB memory
160 GB disk
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Oct 27, 2008
What would you classify this as? Seems like it's the in-between for VPS and dedicated with completely reserved resources and much higher storage capacities than VPS can offer.
Personally, if it runs a hypervisor or container is a VPS but this sure does blur the lines a bit.
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Sep 7, 2008
I am currently using a shared hosting but due to increasing traffic and server load my existing host is not able to provide reliable services and I am planning to upgrade my hosting service.
While I was searching for Dedicated Servers, I learnt about Virtual Dedicated Servers but I am not very sure about their reliability? Are Virtual Dedicated Servers useful? My website current serves over 2500-3000 visitors a day resulting in 30,000 pageviews and I am expecting the traffic to grow by atleast 2 folds in the next few months as I start some PPC campaigns and Email Marketing for my website. Can a Virtual Dedicated Server cater such needs assuming my website to be more of less dynamic website written in php?
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Nov 6, 2008
VPS or Dedicated from SDX
I'm running a Joomla site with about 15,000 page views/day on JaguarPC at present. Its a mainly passive content - no message boards or applications. They disabled my site stating that CPU/Database use is too much. Should I move to a VPS or Dedicated server now ? Budget range $50-75/month.
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Mar 29, 2009
I am tossing around the idea of moving from my dedicated server to a VPS server. This is due to my ever growing server needs.
Currently, I use a small percent of a $400 softlayer server, about 500gig disk space and 2tb bandwidth. Is this too big for a VPS? Is there anything special I need to take into consideration for the move?
I was also wondering if other VPS's on the same server would slow down mine or if I would just allocated a % witch would be reserved for me.
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May 30, 2009
I know what is a dedicated server and a VPS well everyone knows that but what is a VDS is that the same and a VPS
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Feb 27, 2009
I have a master reseller account with a host and i ordered a dedicated IP address so i can install a SSL certificate, I have not done this before so just wanted some info.
Its been over 24 hours from when my host transfered my IP to my account and my website keeps showing some other website o my laptop and if i check it on 1 of my other computers it shows the WHM & cPanel success page...
i know i have to leave it to set the new DNS etc but should it be showing another website? and how long does it take to set the new IP fully as my email and website is all offline
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Feb 5, 2009
Why it so expensive?
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Apr 5, 2009
Self-explanatory title, I think.
Besides that, do you recommend dedicated ip to be bought along with host?
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May 19, 2009
I'm just wondering what the prices are for lower end dedicated servers and how many websites you can fit on them?
(lets say each website is a small 5 to 10 page website with 200 meg space usage and 1 to 2 gig transfer per month)
I'm currently using reseller but once my client base is built rather than buy 5 or 6 reseller plans, I thought it'd be logic to simple upgrade to a dedi.
I know VPS are used for name servers and whatnot, how do they compare with low-end dedicated servers?
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Mar 18, 2008
I'm in the middle of deciding on the hosting I'll use for a site I plan to launch in a month or so. The site is a web app built on Drupal (mysql 5 / php5). It is somewhat resource intensive, as thousands of rss and csv files are updated almost constantly. My last site I hosted across two VPS's, one for the DB and one for everything else. My main concern is scalability - being able to handle whatever is needed.
So I'm looking for some advice on what to do, trying to get the most power, and best scaling options - while trying to keep costs down. I can get a fairly powerful dedicated, fully managed, from liquidweb for around 230/mth. At that price, I thought maybe it would be better to have two VPS's. My experience in this area is limited so instead of running my mouth perhaps I'll let someone else suggest something..
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Sep 19, 2008
I have a website with forum that has been doing pretty well. I'm presently using a shared hosting account and am considering moving up to a VPS because of anticipated future growth and the terrible service I have gotten from my hosting provider.
I have a graduate degree in IT but don't work in this field professionally. Because of this, I'm very good at coding in php, html, javascript, etc. but very terrible when it comes to network administration and my knowledge of unix and linux. But I know I can eventually learn. Because of this I already know I will go with a managed plan if I go VPS.
To be honest with you, after studying many posts on this site for the past few days, I was convinced I would go with a VPS account with either Knownhost or Wiretree since they have managed VPS. However, I have seen one post in the VPS Forum here where one person said his site, which included a forum, was on a dedicated server and at times with 100 users logged into his forum at one time his server could barely keep up.
I am presently getting about 2.5 million hits per month (80,000 hits per day) with about 22,000 page views per day. However, I only have about 500 members in my forum and on average only about 30 logged in at any given time. I get about 5000 unique IPs coming to my website each month. My bandwidth usage is less than 20 GB per month. To me it doesn't really seem that I need a dedicated server but my site is growing steadily.
So it made me question my decision about moving to a VPS plan. Maybe I need to consider a dedicated plan?
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Apr 26, 2008
I have a dedicated server running all my services, including Plesk (WWW, FTP, DNS, etc), E-mail (SMTP, POP, Antispam, webmail) and database (MySQL and SQL Server).
I´m thinking to break this dedicated Server in 4 VPS (** Windows VPS, powered by Microsoft Virtual Server **) to do a better load balance (where a service don’t affect performance of another), increase services uptime (since each of them will be isolated) and increase scalability (since I will be able to move each VPS to Virtual Dedicated Servers when needed - like PowerVPS's PowerXMS plans).
This is what I´m thinking to do:
- 1 VPS for Plesk (WWW, FTP, DNS, etc),
- 1 VPS for isolated web applications (WWW and FTP - no control panel)
- 1 VPS for E-mail (SMTP, POP, IMAP, Antispam and webmail)
- 1 VPS for database (MySQL and SQL Server)
I have some questions about it:
1) Do you think that breaking a dedicated server in some VPS is a good thing? The benefits that I mentioned above are correct (better load balance, increase services uptime, increase scalability)?
2) Do you know what software licenses must I lease to have the Plesk core in a server and the e-mail services on another server? Looking at SWSoft website I found some info about Plesk Expand, but it focused to expand the core of Plesk, having multiple Plesk instances hosting all services in all servers and it require a Linux SO, which I don’t want to have and admin. Do you know how can I separate the Plesk core from the e-mail services in 2 separated servers without having to lease a Linux VPS just to run Plesk Expand?
3) Do you if data traffic between VPSs are metered? (this change from a provider to another?)
4) Do you know if a Virtual Dedicated Server (1 dedicated server running 1 VPS) has significant loss of resources other whena comparaed to a dedicated server?
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