Cisco Catalyst 2960G Vs. Foundry FLS624
Dec 11, 2007
We're evaluating options on new switch deployments and wish for advise or opinions. We have experience with 2950's but want to move up into all gigabit devices. They will be used for pure L2 purposes as front-end access switches for server racks.
For our needs (24 port, all ethernet, L2 only) it looks like these two competing models fit our requirements and budget:
Cisco Catalyst 2960G (about $2150):
Switching: 32Gbps
Forwarding: 35.7Mpps
Foundry FLS624 (about $2400):
Switching: 108Gbps
Forwarding: 161Mpps
It's a tough decision because we have no experience with Foundry products, but from the spec sheets the price vs. performance ratio seems amazing (almost too good to be true).
You have to wonder if they get their ratings only under one specific situation in which you never encounter in "real world" use.
For those of you using Foundry what models are you using for your access switches to your web severs? Is there a better model for our application? What's your overall opinion of the products and service? Would you invest your entire network to them?
We have a mix of various vendors right now for switching / routing (Juniper, Cisco and Riverstone), but looking to the future being more vendor centric to either Cisco or Foundry for switching will be the model (using Juniper for routing). We've also considered other vendors such as HP, Extreme, etc, but ruled these out for a variety of reasons.
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Mar 1, 2007
I have a cisco 2960G switch that I used for colocation, the colocation provider does all the routing all I need is this switch. It's just a plug and play operation, however I now need to do some more difficult stuff.
So, I plugged their bandwidth uplink into port 20.
I have really no idea on how to setup anything other than the basic of the switch.
Is it possible to setup Private Vlans in this situation? I am in need of a setup like this:
All port 1-19 in private vlans, but still able to communicate with port 20 to get internet access. Port 1-19 cannot communicate with each other except by going through port 20, through the internet.
I also want to know if it's possible to statically assign each port with a specific IP? Just say I want all traffic to a static ip to only go to port 1? Is that possible? I want to be able to limit the control of IPs through the switch not through the server.
Right now all my IPs are assign on the server level, meaning the server can take each other IPs and mess with each other connections.
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I've been getting quotes on Cisco 2960G switches (specifically 2960G-24TC-L) and looking for those that have also purchased to determine if I'm getting a decent deal or not. These are brand new from a major vendor for $1899 each shipped. Am I in the ballpark?
List is $3200 and most other places seem to be right around $2k so far.
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I recently acquired a 2950 switch brand new, this is now on production but I needed several things to be setup on the switch such as SNMP, setup an IP to access it over a browser, etc. etc.
Do you know somebody who offers a setup service for cisco switches?
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We are currently looking making some switch changes in our rack as we are expanding.
We don't push a whole lot of traffic (currently 15MBPS) but would like to think ahead for growth.
We are looking at using either the Procurve 1800-24G which will provide web managed 24 10/100/1000 ports or the Cisco Catalyst Express 520-24TT which provide web managed 22 10/100 & 2 10/100/1000 Ports.
Connected to these switch would be our servers and then uplink to our firewalls.
HP is cheaper and provides faster ports, but would Cisco provide additional value over the HP because it's Cisco and their experienced technology?
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i am thinking about upgrading things at the colo soon and am looking for some comments.
my current configuration is like so:
my bandwidth is delivered over fast ethernet and it is plugged straight into a cisco 3550 switch. i have the ip range they have assigned me cut up in to vlans the way i need.
i snmp poll the switch for traffic statistics with rtg.
this works fine, im only working about 10mbit avg so no biggie.
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Once every couple of days now, we get the following error in syslog:
Code:
2009-10-05 20:40:00User.Warning8x.xx.50.1Oct 5 20:39:59 gateway IP: IP: Duplicate IP address 8x.xx.38.1 detected sent from MAC address 0004.d3ea.e200 interface 3/13, 1 packets, first packet received at time 1 days 20 hours 41 minutes 37 seconds since bootup!............
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I know there's been discussion regarding Foundry BigIron's and their capabilities of running L3 and L2 at the same time.
I have a friend who is running a BigIron 8000 and only pushing just over 100Megabits on it, however once every few hours he experiences a BGP flap and one of the CPU's maxes out. He is running both Layer 3 and Layer 2 on it.
When the issue occur's, new connections do not open, but currently opened connections continue to operate.
Is there a specific packet type that is causing this to happen? Does anyone have any insight? It is running the latest firmware.
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Since then we had number of other attacks, some of them we were not able to defend on the server level, while, as you can understand we can't do netwflow and manual intervention evey time somebody gets an attach.
We have very good scripts which allow to mitigate huge number of DDos attack, whet our scripts are finding attacking IPs and blocking them automatically - still some attacks could be blocked only on the router level.
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Used Cisco WS-C5509 Chassis with power supply ( POWER SUPPLY 34-0870-01), and fan (WSC5509FAN)
Cisco WS-X5530-E2 Supervisor Engine III Modules
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Cisco WS-X5234-RJ45 Switch Modules X 8
$160 each.
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LAN (192.168.1.0/255.255.255.0)
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router 1 E0 192.168.1.45
Serial0 10.10.10.1
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Serial0 10.10.10.2 (of router2)
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E0 192.168.3.250
E1 192.168.2.250
Lo 192.168.5.4
I can ping 192.168.1.102 from router 2 and 192.168.1.45 but no not 192.168.1.201 ... or 192.168.1.1
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1) I was recommended to chose the XL-EN model switches because it seems they have more Memory, but the second one in the list (Catalyst) is not a XL-EN, is that going to have any affect performance wise? or it doesn't really matter?
2) I was also recommended to choose managed switches because that way I can use the SNMP features to measure bandwidth, are any of the switches above unmanaged?
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Sep 28, 2007
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Now i have a new Cisco ASA 5510 that i want to replace the aging firewall currently in place, however i dont want to put the firewall into transparent mode because i dont want to lose all the functionality.
Now with most firewalls your outside subnet cannot be the same as your inside subnet, which is fine if you are using NAT but i dont want to NAT. I need all of my servers to remain with their public ip addresses.
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