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Feb 5, 2009

After deciding recently to use 3ix.com's hosting service (as reccomended by a few friends) my account was setup within 5 minutes, all good so far. Until I decide to use thier "customer support", take this at shock value:
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Considering the size of the company, and I was talking to "Techinal Support", I am appaled, by the lack of knowledge and cheek I recieved.

Overall I am appaled by the customer support.

To be honest at first I thought the operator was confused, then I realised she's a thick as a plank.

The companies director(s) will be receiving this as present from me to them

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Quote:

Chat log with Matt Tilson on MSN, screen-name of "mdtilson@hotmail.com" & "CyberToad":

CyberToad: Do you do anything special that requires the system outside of Cpanel or the hosting accounts?
Me: nope, I just use it for the websites and the maintenance/setup of said sites
CyberToad: LOL. You do realize I own 76 hosting companies and most all the major data centers, right?
Me: I wasn't aware of that:-O
CyberToad: IE: Not a problem

CyberToad: Did you by chance see my post from earlier this week in Ads / Offers on cpanel forums?
Me: I was just looking through the ads/offers section as we speak
Me: I see the one you posed but it's for $145/mo
Me: I see a decent one for serverpoint
CyberToad: That's one of thousands of configurations but one that might work for you here. If that is something you might be interested in, I can give you $20 off the monthly price and apply the VPS upgrade money towards it

Me: thanks do you have a site with the different plans or options or are they mostly per request?
CyberToad: I have many, many sites. Top pick for dedicated servers would be [url]. Our main shared / reseller brand would be Clubhost City at [url], for VPS hosting rackforce.net, for free hosting cybertoad.net
Me: wow, I'm taking a look at layerdtech right now, this is your company? nice
CyberToad: one of many

CyberToad: (Side note, I was on the Plesk development team and using that for many years before getting involved with Cpanel so well familiar with both sides)

CyberToaderver has IMAP, POP3, SMTP, SMTP2, Webmail
Me: Sorry, I need to be more clear, Google doesn't have it so don't worry about changing anything for that
CyberToad: Spam protection on the server is about 100 years more sophisticated than anything Google has or will likely ever have and probably 200 years ahead of anything Cpanel has by itself

Me: I honestly can't tell you how much of a relief and learning experience it has been to work with somebody that knows what they're doing. I will recommend your companies to everybody I know. I've never been so impressed with customer service for anything
CyberToad: PHP v5.2.2 (pre-release) for scripting and v5.2.1 with full options for web sites
CyberToad: Oh well you haven't seen our customer service yet! (haven't gotten past me yet..... we have 24 hour monitored support, helpdesk, ticket systems, live chat, AI expert help systems, toll free support, multiple help regional centers, etc
Me: Hey, you've already sold me

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CyberToad:
Me: I've sent four different emails to support@clubhostcity.com the past week from different email accounts (including one on the server you host) and have yet to get a response, again.
Me:?
CyberToad: We haven't received any mail from you

Me: Do you use webmail?
CyberToad: Uh yeah .... I'm on the Squirrelmail development team!

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CyberToad: The helpdesk like works perfectly unless you are going to the wrong page. [url]

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Matt, My server appears to be down again and has been for about 15 hours or more. I tried getting a hold of clubhostcity's support to no avail and I really need my sites back up. Can you please take a look at it?

Me: I don't mean to sound like a jerk but this has been completely unacceptable. I cannot get in contact with anybody to get my server back in gear. It's going to be going on 24 hours and that is unacceptable by any standard.
CyberToad: Instead of sending email (especially since your mail provider isn't working right), I would suggest submitting support tickets directly using our helpdesk ticket system at http://support.clubhostcity.com

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Me: My server is completely down and yet again I can't get a hold of anybody with any support at your company. Please respond.

Me: Anything you can do to get this fixed ASAP would be great. The server has been down for almost two days and I've been emailing support@clubhostcity.com trying to get help to no avail.

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