When Is Offshore NOT Really Offshore
Mar 29, 2009
I've been searching for a truly offshore hosting company (still vacillating between VPS and dedicated server, mostly because of my need to control my server) for my entirely legal, communications businesses websites that serve high profile individuals who like their privacy as much as I like mine. My goal is to be out of reach of the US civil legal system where anyone (American or not) can file frivolous lawsuits and use the purported power of the US subpoena to compel discovery and other information about me and my businesses that they couldn't otherwise obtain. They look at my businesses and see dollar signs; deep pockets they can get into with the right lawsuit.
It doesn't matter if a lawsuit has any legal basis here in the US; it's that one has been FILED that provides the right to subpoena and discovery. (I worked in law firms for years; I know how easily this can and is done.) And that means the defendant has the obligation to fight back or lose. Fighting, or even settling, can be costly to a small business.
There are people and lawyers here whose only source of income is such lawsuits--especially of the "John Doe" or "CyberSLAPP" type. Sometimes the only objective is the destruction of a business by a competitor or enemy--and a lawsuit targeted to a small business can have that affect. Those of you who are in the US know exactly what I mean; we have entire industries designed to protect us from frivolous legal actions that are costly to fight. Lawsuits are sport here and hosting companies, rather than be sued themselves, capitulate to a simple, threatening letter from a private attorney (or a bogus attorney letter from anyone trying to locate somebody), canceling private domain registration and revealing other information about a client. Many webhosts, here and abroad, don't even validate the letter or contact the client to allow them to quash a subpoena or respond to the letter before they "out" the client. I'm not talking about law enforcement agencies investigating a suspected crime; I'm talking about private citizens using a legal system gone haywire to harm those with American interests or connections.
There are numerous other threats to privacy here, too, including USA Patriot Act excused government snooping, stalkers and just plain nosy citizens sniffing traffic and hacking your website to learn things about you they want to know. But the legal actions are my biggest concern. Therefore, it's just cheaper to go offshore with my websites and domain registration (and take other protective actions to protect my privacy and content), making them as anonymous as possible, than to pay for all of the liability coverage I would need in order to protect myself and my businesses from lawsuits, which can be upwards of several thousand dollars a year AND require me to sign personal guarantees as well as put my name and contact information into one of those databases from which anyone, anyplace in the world can buy my info.
So, I need a hosting company in a privacy friendly jurisdiction (read, one that not only values free speech but won't "give you up" at the first hint of a legal threat) that has NO connection the to US, the surveillance societies that other countries have become or oppressive governments that harm those who speak out again political or other corruption or whatever. (That rules out MOST countries on the planet.)
However, most of the companies I've considered either use American servers to host their OWN sites, use American servers to host client sites or have some other connection to America! Some of them purport to be "truly anonymous" or "private" yet have American divisions or are American companies offering offshore privacy! Others register your domain privately or sell you DNS management and then park your domain on US servers! How can you claim that and be connected to the US or another surveillance society? (See the Privacy International website to learn what I mean by "surveillance society", if you don't know.)
It's gotten so that, in part because of one of my favorite Firefox add-ins that tells me where the server of a company is ACTUALLY located, regardless of their domain name's geo-designation, if I see an American flag on my browser bar, I don't even let the site load up before I close it. Connections to America mean client's privacy and confidentiality can be breached by an attorney letter or subpoena to the company hosting the server or to the American branch/hosting partner of the "offshore" company where the target has hosting. (And DNS cloaking or URL redirects aren't always successful.)
So, why do "offshore" hosting companies on American servers, using American hosting companies to serve clients, who are resellers for American hosting companies or that have other, direct or indirect connections to America, call themselves "offshore" when their assets are on American servers and subject them and their to American legal action and law (like the USA Patriot Act?)? Don't they know this is true?
Do clients desiring true privacy or anonymity (even those living outside the US using non-US hosting) understand the risks of hosting with or allowing your offshore registrar to park your domain on the servers of a hosting company with US ties (like a US division or parent) if they want to avoid US-related issues when hosting? I mean, even using Google ad dollars and similar US services if you're trying to remain offshore with your websites can subject you to legal action in the US and all that it means.
And, just who are the TRUE, reliable offshore hosts in privacy friendly jurisdictions who have great service AND price structure? Do they exist?
View 14 Replies
ADVERTISEMENT
May 14, 2009
Like many of you, i'm very keen on protecting my privacy. I live in a European country and i don't trust my government or Brussels.
Unfortunately my knowledge about computer privacy is very little, so i hope you guys can help me out a bit.
What i need is:
- Anonymous offshore e-mail account, in a country like Hong Kong, Belize etc.
Payment by western union, SSL or other encryption, no record storage like when i logged in with which IP address etc.
- Anonymous offshore proxy, also in an offshore jurisdiction like Hong Kong.
Payment by wetsern union, Highly encrypted, no records etc.
I found some companies who offer these services, trilightzone.org pretty much offers everything i need. But can i trust them? Because they only exist in "cyberspace".
katzglobal.com
privacy.li
trilightzone.org
anonymizer.com (not really offshore and they snoop in your records and emails, pro-actively work together with the gov.)
View 7 Replies
View Related
Nov 2, 2009
I'm considering getting a 2nd VPS but offshore. I'm looking for a very good host thats been around for a few years and offers great support (maybe phone support if it's available?)
I need at LEAST 768MB guaranteed RAM (preferably 1GB), 300GB bandwidth, and cPanel/WHM all for around $40-$60 / month.
View 14 Replies
View Related
Mar 5, 2009
Does anyone know any Swedish VPS providers, i only need a tiny server and perhaps later i will move onto something big if there server speeds are good.
View 2 Replies
View Related
Mar 26, 2008
I've been using a shared webhost that is on Ecatel.net's network, however have experienced frequent hiccups with the network. I was looking at leaseweb, but their low prices really scare me.
The web server should preferably be in the Netherlands.
View 14 Replies
View Related
Nov 4, 2008
What are some good offshore datacenters? So far I've found Ecatel, but I'm yet to get a reply back from them.
View 11 Replies
View Related
Aug 15, 2008
I have very specific needs for a VPS provider that can host a reverse engineered game server (NOT WoW) I want to run. I will not be using BitTorrent or IRC or the like, but I want to run an emulator that may or may not fall into DMCA reverse engineering issues (the legal implications just aren't all together clear with the DMCA). I just don't want to have to deal with getting unplugged constantly over something that is not illegal. I won't be hosting any copyrighted material or the like.
Here are my needs:
Windows 2003 Based VPS
384-512MB RAM upgradable if needed
10GB Disk space (Don't really need even that much)
150GB+ per month transfer
a good connection with semi-low latency (doesn't need to be as low as a counter-striker server or the like but needs to be solid and fast)
A control panel of some type is fine, but I only really need Remote Desktop access
Other than that I am pretty open. Country of origin doesn't matter too much and I would only like the company to be somewhat reliable. I want as cheap as possible of course, but I would be willing to spend ~$50 USD per month.
View 1 Replies
View Related
Apr 25, 2008
I want to host mp3 forum whihc some legal and some illegal ( since impossible for me to check every single post ). i will remove the post if someone report it though. I need a managed offshore dedicated server with cpanel.
i will spend arround $200-200
Minimum spec
4 gigs memory
1000 gigs quality bandwith
mainly my users are from asia.
View 2 Replies
View Related
Oct 15, 2009
I can't find providers with 10Krpm HDs+ offshore and they have to have good support. Also I need atleast 2Tb over 100Mbit.
The reason why I need it to be offshore is because my client wants to have a subtitles sites and I'm not exactly sure if its legal or not in america and UK. Also netherlands or germany is preffered I looked at swiftnoc but not sure if they have 10krpm hard drives.
View 5 Replies
View Related
Aug 22, 2009
Have a client who is looking at hosting a number of sites offshore, likely in Panama. The sites are targeting Central American users, so he wants to host them close to his users.
I'm sending out some emails to some datacenters I've seen recommended (HighSecured, HostingPanama), though one concern I have is what is involved with exporting servers outside of the US.
I know when ordering through Dell, one of the questions in the process is about exporting the servers. For a country like Panama, what sort of restrictions do they have? What kind of expenses should I expect with customs or what not?
Finally, anyone have any experience with shipping servers offshore? My biggest concern is with hardware replacements. Most colocation there seems to be per-U than 1/2 rack, so I couldn't necessarily have a spare standby server or spare parts sitting in the rack. Even if they could store some spare drives or what not, how do you deal with getting replacements there from Dell, or RMA'ing bad drives? Seems like there would be a lot of time lost and expenses due to shipping things around.
View 2 Replies
View Related
May 18, 2008
I am currently having some problems with my Off-Shore Host, too many downtimes and MySQL errors so I am looking for a new OffShore Web Host. I need a web host that can host: MovieGalaxy.org and it must be offshore. Anybody here has any experiences with a good Off Shore Host?
View 8 Replies
View Related
Dec 2, 2008
I have a website that embeds anime videos hosted on websites like youtube/veoh/megavideo.
Is there a country/place a can host this type of site where it is legal to do this kind of embedding/linking. (none of the videos are hosted on website)
View 6 Replies
View Related
Nov 14, 2008
If Theres Any Offshore V.P.S Hosting With Cpanel.
Looking For About
30-40 Gb Disk Space
100-150 Gb Bandwidth
Other Specs Not Really Fussed
View 3 Replies
View Related
Mar 24, 2009
is there any host offshore that allow rapidshare inks
View 1 Replies
View Related
Apr 13, 2008
some quality offshore dedicated server providers. I have heard of Leaseweb and Piradius. Leaseweb seemed not to be a good choice as if I recall properly I read that previous hosting clients were dissatisfied with the lack of support. Is this true - what do you Leaseweb clients have to say? I could not find the Piradius servers so I gave up looking for them. Does anyone know where I can find their "actual" website?
Also, it would be helpful if someone can tell me how to find out who hosts a website by checking some data. For example, here is a Piradius client. Piradius might be a datacenter for all I know, so how I do find out who the hosting company is?
View 14 Replies
View Related
May 9, 2008
Anyone know some cheap offshore clustered shared host?
View 4 Replies
View Related
Nov 15, 2008
Does anyone know of cheap offshore data centers, we have some customers in need of offshore hosting services.
View 13 Replies
View Related
Jan 22, 2008
I have an ecommerce website built in .NET. We sell alot of records, music etc., so having fast loading mp3 samples is important.
Our shop is based in Australia and most of our customers will be based in Australia.
My questions is:
Will it make a difference whether we host in Australia or the U.S.?
Will hosting in the U.S. slow us down (in terms of website loading and mp3 samples loading)?
I am not sure how large the website is, but it has SQL databases and it currently has about 1.5 gig of mp3 samples uploaded to it. I am predicting we will need around 3 gig of disc space to start off with and then an increase of around 1/2 gig per month.
How do you think the website downloading speed and data transfer speed of mp3 samples on our website will be affected if we host in the offshore (in the U.S. for example)?
View 10 Replies
View Related
Aug 2, 2008
any recommendations on any hosting companies that wouldn't be under jurisdiction of the US laws? i'm not thinking of doing anything illegal. i'm interested in working on a site about a company that is outsourcing their employees. employees want a public forum but not at the cost of being exposed.
View 2 Replies
View Related
Oct 22, 2009
I am thinking about getting image hosting website, which will support both adult and regular images and might be have a look like this one:
[url removed]
I asked some Onshore VPS hosting companies and they do allow adult image hosting. I am having TOS rules enabled about copyright rights and will support "report abuse" button so if somebody complains I could easy remove reported image. But anyway I think that it may cause some problems in the future.
My question is: which VPS is better and more reliable for this idea, Onshore or Offshore? and Why? What problems could I face with this type of website?
View 4 Replies
View Related
Jun 13, 2008
looking for a dedicated server outside usa/canada, with irc access under 75$.
View 5 Replies
View Related
Jun 25, 2008
please recomend me any vps providers in india, rusia, china and other offshore states.
i want >256MB RAM, >2GB HDD, pay via paypal, >300GB bandwidth, one or two IPs
View 9 Replies
View Related