Shipping Servers Offshore
Aug 22, 2009
Have a client who is looking at hosting a number of sites offshore, likely in Panama. The sites are targeting Central American users, so he wants to host them close to his users.
I'm sending out some emails to some datacenters I've seen recommended (HighSecured, HostingPanama), though one concern I have is what is involved with exporting servers outside of the US.
I know when ordering through Dell, one of the questions in the process is about exporting the servers. For a country like Panama, what sort of restrictions do they have? What kind of expenses should I expect with customs or what not?
Finally, anyone have any experience with shipping servers offshore? My biggest concern is with hardware replacements. Most colocation there seems to be per-U than 1/2 rack, so I couldn't necessarily have a spare standby server or spare parts sitting in the rack. Even if they could store some spare drives or what not, how do you deal with getting replacements there from Dell, or RMA'ing bad drives? Seems like there would be a lot of time lost and expenses due to shipping things around.
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Aug 14, 2009
which carriers you use to ship your servers/equipment to colo facilities and what the expected cost per server (2u) is?
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Sep 30, 2009
I built a server that I'm sending to a DC in Sweden soon, and I'm wondering about the logistics of sending a server overseas, is there anything I need to know about in terms of dealing with customs etc?
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Sep 30, 2007
I have searched through some of the postings and have found only old posts related to the shipment of servers OUTSIDE of the US.
My question isn't about cost. It is about customs and import issues at the destination country.
Specifically -- what is involved when shipping a server from the US to the Netherlands for installation into a NL data center? How is customs (ie: import fees) dealt with on the NL side?
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Apr 13, 2008
some quality offshore dedicated server providers. I have heard of Leaseweb and Piradius. Leaseweb seemed not to be a good choice as if I recall properly I read that previous hosting clients were dissatisfied with the lack of support. Is this true - what do you Leaseweb clients have to say? I could not find the Piradius servers so I gave up looking for them. Does anyone know where I can find their "actual" website?
Also, it would be helpful if someone can tell me how to find out who hosts a website by checking some data. For example, here is a Piradius client. Piradius might be a datacenter for all I know, so how I do find out who the hosting company is?
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May 14, 2009
Like many of you, i'm very keen on protecting my privacy. I live in a European country and i don't trust my government or Brussels.
Unfortunately my knowledge about computer privacy is very little, so i hope you guys can help me out a bit.
What i need is:
- Anonymous offshore e-mail account, in a country like Hong Kong, Belize etc.
Payment by western union, SSL or other encryption, no record storage like when i logged in with which IP address etc.
- Anonymous offshore proxy, also in an offshore jurisdiction like Hong Kong.
Payment by wetsern union, Highly encrypted, no records etc.
I found some companies who offer these services, trilightzone.org pretty much offers everything i need. But can i trust them? Because they only exist in "cyberspace".
katzglobal.com
privacy.li
trilightzone.org
anonymizer.com (not really offshore and they snoop in your records and emails, pro-actively work together with the gov.)
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Dec 9, 2006
I am looking to buy a dedicated server ( pre owned ). The pre owned market in Sweden is bad and the ebay market is really big, that's why I'm considering buying from ebay.
The problem is that most ebay sellers don't ship to Sweden for some reason, so to the questions.
is there a reliable "reshipping service". is there any cheap colocation facility ( in the us ) that would accept a ebay delivery and install the server into the rack?
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Mar 29, 2009
I've been searching for a truly offshore hosting company (still vacillating between VPS and dedicated server, mostly because of my need to control my server) for my entirely legal, communications businesses websites that serve high profile individuals who like their privacy as much as I like mine. My goal is to be out of reach of the US civil legal system where anyone (American or not) can file frivolous lawsuits and use the purported power of the US subpoena to compel discovery and other information about me and my businesses that they couldn't otherwise obtain. They look at my businesses and see dollar signs; deep pockets they can get into with the right lawsuit.
It doesn't matter if a lawsuit has any legal basis here in the US; it's that one has been FILED that provides the right to subpoena and discovery. (I worked in law firms for years; I know how easily this can and is done.) And that means the defendant has the obligation to fight back or lose. Fighting, or even settling, can be costly to a small business.
There are people and lawyers here whose only source of income is such lawsuits--especially of the "John Doe" or "CyberSLAPP" type. Sometimes the only objective is the destruction of a business by a competitor or enemy--and a lawsuit targeted to a small business can have that affect. Those of you who are in the US know exactly what I mean; we have entire industries designed to protect us from frivolous legal actions that are costly to fight. Lawsuits are sport here and hosting companies, rather than be sued themselves, capitulate to a simple, threatening letter from a private attorney (or a bogus attorney letter from anyone trying to locate somebody), canceling private domain registration and revealing other information about a client. Many webhosts, here and abroad, don't even validate the letter or contact the client to allow them to quash a subpoena or respond to the letter before they "out" the client. I'm not talking about law enforcement agencies investigating a suspected crime; I'm talking about private citizens using a legal system gone haywire to harm those with American interests or connections.
There are numerous other threats to privacy here, too, including USA Patriot Act excused government snooping, stalkers and just plain nosy citizens sniffing traffic and hacking your website to learn things about you they want to know. But the legal actions are my biggest concern. Therefore, it's just cheaper to go offshore with my websites and domain registration (and take other protective actions to protect my privacy and content), making them as anonymous as possible, than to pay for all of the liability coverage I would need in order to protect myself and my businesses from lawsuits, which can be upwards of several thousand dollars a year AND require me to sign personal guarantees as well as put my name and contact information into one of those databases from which anyone, anyplace in the world can buy my info.
So, I need a hosting company in a privacy friendly jurisdiction (read, one that not only values free speech but won't "give you up" at the first hint of a legal threat) that has NO connection the to US, the surveillance societies that other countries have become or oppressive governments that harm those who speak out again political or other corruption or whatever. (That rules out MOST countries on the planet.)
However, most of the companies I've considered either use American servers to host their OWN sites, use American servers to host client sites or have some other connection to America! Some of them purport to be "truly anonymous" or "private" yet have American divisions or are American companies offering offshore privacy! Others register your domain privately or sell you DNS management and then park your domain on US servers! How can you claim that and be connected to the US or another surveillance society? (See the Privacy International website to learn what I mean by "surveillance society", if you don't know.)
It's gotten so that, in part because of one of my favorite Firefox add-ins that tells me where the server of a company is ACTUALLY located, regardless of their domain name's geo-designation, if I see an American flag on my browser bar, I don't even let the site load up before I close it. Connections to America mean client's privacy and confidentiality can be breached by an attorney letter or subpoena to the company hosting the server or to the American branch/hosting partner of the "offshore" company where the target has hosting. (And DNS cloaking or URL redirects aren't always successful.)
So, why do "offshore" hosting companies on American servers, using American hosting companies to serve clients, who are resellers for American hosting companies or that have other, direct or indirect connections to America, call themselves "offshore" when their assets are on American servers and subject them and their to American legal action and law (like the USA Patriot Act?)? Don't they know this is true?
Do clients desiring true privacy or anonymity (even those living outside the US using non-US hosting) understand the risks of hosting with or allowing your offshore registrar to park your domain on the servers of a hosting company with US ties (like a US division or parent) if they want to avoid US-related issues when hosting? I mean, even using Google ad dollars and similar US services if you're trying to remain offshore with your websites can subject you to legal action in the US and all that it means.
And, just who are the TRUE, reliable offshore hosts in privacy friendly jurisdictions who have great service AND price structure? Do they exist?
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Nov 2, 2009
I'm considering getting a 2nd VPS but offshore. I'm looking for a very good host thats been around for a few years and offers great support (maybe phone support if it's available?)
I need at LEAST 768MB guaranteed RAM (preferably 1GB), 300GB bandwidth, and cPanel/WHM all for around $40-$60 / month.
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Mar 5, 2009
Does anyone know any Swedish VPS providers, i only need a tiny server and perhaps later i will move onto something big if there server speeds are good.
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Mar 26, 2008
I've been using a shared webhost that is on Ecatel.net's network, however have experienced frequent hiccups with the network. I was looking at leaseweb, but their low prices really scare me.
The web server should preferably be in the Netherlands.
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Nov 4, 2008
What are some good offshore datacenters? So far I've found Ecatel, but I'm yet to get a reply back from them.
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Aug 15, 2008
I have very specific needs for a VPS provider that can host a reverse engineered game server (NOT WoW) I want to run. I will not be using BitTorrent or IRC or the like, but I want to run an emulator that may or may not fall into DMCA reverse engineering issues (the legal implications just aren't all together clear with the DMCA). I just don't want to have to deal with getting unplugged constantly over something that is not illegal. I won't be hosting any copyrighted material or the like.
Here are my needs:
Windows 2003 Based VPS
384-512MB RAM upgradable if needed
10GB Disk space (Don't really need even that much)
150GB+ per month transfer
a good connection with semi-low latency (doesn't need to be as low as a counter-striker server or the like but needs to be solid and fast)
A control panel of some type is fine, but I only really need Remote Desktop access
Other than that I am pretty open. Country of origin doesn't matter too much and I would only like the company to be somewhat reliable. I want as cheap as possible of course, but I would be willing to spend ~$50 USD per month.
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Apr 25, 2008
I want to host mp3 forum whihc some legal and some illegal ( since impossible for me to check every single post ). i will remove the post if someone report it though. I need a managed offshore dedicated server with cpanel.
i will spend arround $200-200
Minimum spec
4 gigs memory
1000 gigs quality bandwith
mainly my users are from asia.
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Oct 15, 2009
I can't find providers with 10Krpm HDs+ offshore and they have to have good support. Also I need atleast 2Tb over 100Mbit.
The reason why I need it to be offshore is because my client wants to have a subtitles sites and I'm not exactly sure if its legal or not in america and UK. Also netherlands or germany is preffered I looked at swiftnoc but not sure if they have 10krpm hard drives.
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May 18, 2008
I am currently having some problems with my Off-Shore Host, too many downtimes and MySQL errors so I am looking for a new OffShore Web Host. I need a web host that can host: MovieGalaxy.org and it must be offshore. Anybody here has any experiences with a good Off Shore Host?
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Dec 2, 2008
I have a website that embeds anime videos hosted on websites like youtube/veoh/megavideo.
Is there a country/place a can host this type of site where it is legal to do this kind of embedding/linking. (none of the videos are hosted on website)
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Nov 14, 2008
If Theres Any Offshore V.P.S Hosting With Cpanel.
Looking For About
30-40 Gb Disk Space
100-150 Gb Bandwidth
Other Specs Not Really Fussed
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Mar 24, 2009
is there any host offshore that allow rapidshare inks
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May 9, 2008
Anyone know some cheap offshore clustered shared host?
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Nov 15, 2008
Does anyone know of cheap offshore data centers, we have some customers in need of offshore hosting services.
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Jan 22, 2008
I have an ecommerce website built in .NET. We sell alot of records, music etc., so having fast loading mp3 samples is important.
Our shop is based in Australia and most of our customers will be based in Australia.
My questions is:
Will it make a difference whether we host in Australia or the U.S.?
Will hosting in the U.S. slow us down (in terms of website loading and mp3 samples loading)?
I am not sure how large the website is, but it has SQL databases and it currently has about 1.5 gig of mp3 samples uploaded to it. I am predicting we will need around 3 gig of disc space to start off with and then an increase of around 1/2 gig per month.
How do you think the website downloading speed and data transfer speed of mp3 samples on our website will be affected if we host in the offshore (in the U.S. for example)?
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Aug 2, 2008
any recommendations on any hosting companies that wouldn't be under jurisdiction of the US laws? i'm not thinking of doing anything illegal. i'm interested in working on a site about a company that is outsourcing their employees. employees want a public forum but not at the cost of being exposed.
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Oct 22, 2009
I am thinking about getting image hosting website, which will support both adult and regular images and might be have a look like this one:
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I asked some Onshore VPS hosting companies and they do allow adult image hosting. I am having TOS rules enabled about copyright rights and will support "report abuse" button so if somebody complains I could easy remove reported image. But anyway I think that it may cause some problems in the future.
My question is: which VPS is better and more reliable for this idea, Onshore or Offshore? and Why? What problems could I face with this type of website?
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Jun 13, 2008
looking for a dedicated server outside usa/canada, with irc access under 75$.
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Jan 20, 2007
I have a lot of questions here so if you can't answer them all I understand. even pointing me somewhere where I could get the answers would be appreciated; hardware sites focusing on server hardware, forums focusing on such, etc.
we plan to have three different types of servers:
- db server (self explanatory. mysql. for forums, mysql driven sites.)
- file server (lots of files around ~2-10MB, consistant 70mbps right now, but we want more room for upgrades. needs a LOT of storage room.)
- web server (lots of php files, but also static things like plain html, images, etc. also includes all misc services for the setup-- dns, etc.)
could I be given a rundown for which hardware each of the three should have? I don't need specifics, even just knowing that more ram is important here while cpu doesn't matter as much, or that the fastest disks available are a must, etc would all be valuable info for me. despite that, I certainly wouldn't mind specific hypothetical hardware configs.
for the database server I'm assuming the more ram the better. not entirely sure about the cpu? also not positive on disks...
for the fileserver, how much ram would be practical or useful? disk io will be an issue I'm because plenty of people will be pulling files at once so the disk needs to read from multiple places. scsi (and even raptors) are not an option as we need 750GB+ of space on a reasonable budget. more ram will take some load of of the disks, but how much is neccessary / reasonable?
for the web server I'm assuming cpu first, then ram, but it'll likely need less ram than the db server?
I'm more lost on the disks than anything. scsi on the fileserver is not an option under any circumstances due to $/GB. for the db & web server I'm willing to pay for scsi if the performance increase really does warrant the extra money, but I'd like to be convinced before shelling it out. if you have benchmarks geared at server hardware when it comes to disks I'd really appreciate it.
also, what's the best way to network these together when colocated? each one with a dual gigabit ethernet port and then the communications go to and from the router?
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Jun 25, 2008
please recomend me any vps providers in india, rusia, china and other offshore states.
i want >256MB RAM, >2GB HDD, pay via paypal, >300GB bandwidth, one or two IPs
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May 24, 2008
We send mail to another servers but we cant recieve mails another servers. We can't recieve with webmail and outlook.
I look logs but there is no error and our ip is not in blacklist.
there is the error in our server
[url]
linux cpanel centos 4.6
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Mar 28, 2008
I was wondering if it is possible to cluster 2 web servers and 2 mysql servers with only one server working as load balancer.
I am planning to use LVS (ldirectord and heartbeat).
Let's say I have 3 IPs allocated to the load balancing server.
111.222.111.222 (Main IP)
111.222.111.223 (Web Load Balancing IP)
111.222.111.224 (MySQL Load Balancing IP)
If a connection is made to .223 it would pass the request to one of the web nodes.
If a connection is made to .224 it would pass the request to one of the MySQL nodes.
Is it possible to do this?
If not, can I run, for example, nginx on 223 IP address to provide forward proxy? (Then it would not be able to HA but the main point is to load balance so)
Also, what would be the best way to keep the data same on both web servers? This is a web cluster for a very high traffic forum with a lot of uploads every hour so it has to do real time synchronization. I heard that DRDB is only one way and not two way so I'm not going to be able to use this.
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Oct 11, 2009
I am just colocating servers and managing them myself, and renting services off of them. In the future I would like to start offering dedicated servers as well. I am wondering if many companies do this, or if its more of a general practice to just setup as a reseller? The worst part that comes to mind is thinking of how to do billing for the bandwidth per month. With my setup I would only be offering flat bandwidth packages (like 2TB a month) but even so, I cant think of anyway to automate it so WHMCS knows if they went over, if so, how much, etc.
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Aug 15, 2008
What would give me the best performance, to have many low end servers (core2duo) or a few high end servers (quad cores, dual quad cores).
Running everything from mysql queries to video streaming.
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