Multitiered Colo Setup
Apr 11, 2007
I just acquired a Dell PowerConnect 5324 and am trying to put together all my accumulated gears as close to an enterprise setup as possible. I'm relatively knowledgeable on the logic/software configuration, but I'm pretty new to network design and setting up switches/vlans. Your input on how to configure them in a data center environment would be greatly appreciated.
1 Dell PowerConnect 5324 with 24 port of gigabit NIC
2 Adaptec Snap Appliance 14000 with 2 gigabit NIC
5 1u IBM x335 with dual xeon, 2 36GB SCSI 10K drive, 2GB RAM, dual gigabit NIC, chain cables and KVM kit. (To be purchased. All the mentioned 5 servers would cost me around $3,000 total. Seems the best I could get, since can't spend more than 3 grand. Any other suggestion on picking up the servers?)
2 x335 will host apache httpd and apache tomcat clustered (Dell 5324 needs to act as a load balancer.)
2 x335 will host mysql clustered.
1 x335 will be the used to host the ordering, billing, help desk, and act as a management server for all other devices.
2 Snap Appliance 14000 (thinking to go with RAID 5) would be connected via iSCSI. They will serve as email repository, document repository, system logs, and as database repository.
Here's diagram in my mind
Internet
|
Load Balancer
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/
----------------------------------- VLAN 1
| | |
httpd httpd monitoring
/tomcat /tomcat /management
| | |
----------------------------------- VLAN 2
| | | |
mysql mysql fileserver fileserver
Questions:
1. Your thoughts on the design of VLANs for the layered diagram?
2. Your thoughts setting up this Dell 5324 as a load balancer?
3. How to setup the VLANs if the data center's router only gives me one default gateway? Do I need my own router with at least two gateway interfaces?
4. As for email server, since it needs to be facing DNS server, I would think the front-end http/tomcat servers are the only place can host the the email server. Any other options?
5. Any other options on selecting the 1u servers?
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Mar 6, 2007
We have recently acquired a half rack in a Chicago DC. We have purchased 2 mid range Dell servers, PowerConnect 2724, and a Firebox X20e-W. We also have a block of IP's, for demo purposes lets say: 14.153.12.1 - 58. Now these server will be for two separate clients. Let saw each client gets 10 ip's consecutively from the range above. One server will be a Windows 2003 based server, and the other will run linux. Both will manage there own DNS. What I want to know is if this is possible with the above setup. Basicly I have one incoming drop connection, coming in via the firewall, then to the switch serving multiple machines. We want to be able to drop in more servers as time goes on.
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I'm fairly new, but with avg experience in Linux.
Using Ubuntu Feisty as the servers. Might use H-sphere or Webmin to manage stuff.
Now, my only thing is I don't know how to go about this.
I currently setup both servers to use the colo provider's gateway for DNS, and ofcourse, OpenDNS.
But I'd like to make both my boxes be able to host external and internal DNS.
I'd like some pointers on what would you do if you had 2 boxes that you wanted to get online with everything in it?
I'd love to make both boxes as dns servers only, and use another for hosting and everything else, but that's not possible right away.
Pointers about how I'd get the DNS going and ultimately everything automated and everything will be very appreciated.
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I am getting 12 IP's allocated but will increase to 24 soon if all goes well (fingers crossed!).
I will have for starters just a single Proliant running dnp on 2008 with IIS, FTP, Mail, ns1 and a 2003 VM running my secondary ns.
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4) My VPS hostname is: vps.runemart.com
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