Managed, Unmanaged, And Root......
Aug 3, 2007
to upgrade or find a new host in the coming weeks. I've been looking all over at the VPS's and Dedicated servers and have questions.
At 1and1.com they have two different dedicated servers, managed and root. Does anyone know the difference between the two? I mean one uses Plesk and the other uses their control panel, but shouldn't the managed one be more?
Also, what's the difference between managed and unmanaged, they won't fix something if it's unmanaged?
All this stuff is starting to confuse me.......not that confusing me is real hard, but still.
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May 9, 2009
how the hosting provider would back me up in setting up my vps, support in additional issues etc. with regards each of the above topics.
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May 11, 2009
would like to move to a VPS plan, many has already mentioned that managing VPS is not easy in which it is kinda scary for me! but may I ask what are the main things that I need to know to manage a VPS host.
from my experience on a shared host with cpanel I know how to manage domains, subdomains, backups, traffic-analyze, mysql-databases, myphpadmin, ... etc.
Now if I get a VPS host with cpanel, do I need any extra experience to mange it? if so, what are they ...
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Feb 27, 2009
What additional services do I get with a managed VPS account? Does it depend on the service provider?
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May 24, 2009
I have a java-based instant-messaging server application, which I need to host on a VPS.
This server application comes with its own Java Virtual Machine.
I do not need any other software than that, no web server, no database, no PHP, no multiple domains or whatever, because that stuff is hosted on another server
So I assume, I will just need an unmanaged VPS. Am I right or is there more to it?
Do I have to install and manage firewall and security on unmanaged VPS, or is that done by the provider?
What about monitoring? Any other issues I need to take into consideration?
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Apr 26, 2008
do I want a Managed VPS or unmanaged vps?
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Jul 12, 2007
What are the differences between managed VPS, semi-managed VPS, and unmanaged VPS?
I've always used shared hosting w/ a cpanel in the past but I'm leaning towards a VPS.
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May 17, 2007
so my business partner (the IT person) is recommending we go with an unmanaged VPS over a managed VPS....
Now, I'm blonde...so kinda feelin dumb...what's the difference between a managed and unmanaged?
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Jun 16, 2007
I would like people explain the differences as I am starting to get confused reading each company 'own definition' of manages and unmanaged services.
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Dec 4, 2008
I think I'm ready to take the plunge for an unmanaged dedicated server but before I do,
I was wondering what's involved when managing a server (brief summary)?
I've been reading these pages and I'm sure this is within my capabilities.
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Obviously there's more to keep it ticking over smoothly so that's what I'm not sure about. I'm going to go for a server at Limestone Networks with cPanel.
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Sep 22, 2008
I've had a similar conversation in the past wanted to get more specific.
It's really a personal question.
I want a dedicated server but don't want to pay the extra 70 a month for managed solution.
If i don't have much experience with a linux server and can't use windows server because i need Apache mod_rewrite am i safe just getting a dedicated host and not messing with anything but the cpanel?
Most apps i've hand coded so i don't forsee upgrades, assuming it comes with the standard setup.
Why would i need a hosting manager, I think i can learn things on my own right?
Anyone been in my shoes before and went dedicated non managed?
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Sep 15, 2007
I wanna know Difference Between Managed & Unmanaged VPS
what is the type of management is it.
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Dec 6, 2008
I've been with the same host for 4 years with great support (I'll write a full review next week), but my site has outgrown the current dedicated plans they offer at my budget.
Basically I need two servers to run one large (and growing) vbulletin forum: Primary Server: a modern processor (Core2Duo, Xeon, etc.) and 2-3GB RAM to serve the php pages, run MySQL, handle mail, etc. Secondary Server: old Celeron with 512 RAM to host avatars/images on a subdomainBudget: $150-$170
This is all for one website, so I'm not sure if it's necessary for me to pay for two control panels, a fancy secondary server, etc. Is this a realistic price range?
Here's where I'm weary. A lot of hosts with deals on modern and old servers seem to be unmanaged. I can do my own back-ups, rebuild php, run basic ssh commands, etc., but I do need help trouble-shooting random issues, about 6-8 times a year. For example, in October my server was hit by this iframe javascript attack. It required some knowledgeable techs working to fix it. I rarely need such active support, but when I need it, I can't accept a "this is a software issue, you're on your own!" or "we'll escalate this ticket to our level 54 tech and get back to you right after your billing cycle."
In searching reputable companies in my price range, I've narrowed down my search to:
HostDime (managed support, but the most expensive)
DMEHosting (least expensive, but seemingly the most problematic)
Hivelocity (good deals, good sales presence on WHT)
ServerBeach (popular, experienced, doesn't seem to be known for good support)
TailorMadeServers (good deals, owner posts here often, but seems understandably busy)
All of these companies seem reasonable for various reasons, so I figured I would make a thread about my specific needs in hopes of getting more informed opinions.
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Aug 31, 2008
I am considering renting a server, but got one question first.
If I sign up for one unmanaged root server with a control panel, from a provider. And just put my website on the server, and let it run there.
Is that a security risk? Is it easy for people to hack into my server, or anything like that?
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Mar 29, 2009
I am considering moving to dedicated server, what are risks with self managed server compared to managed?
Managed servers are very expensive for my needs.
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Jul 16, 2008
When a colo vendor can consider themselves as a managed colocation provider? What make them different than *normal* colo service?
If you need a managed colo, why not go with managed server? With managed server, your vendor will take care about the server health, including software and hardware too
(I am mentioning to fully managed server vendors like Rackspace, don't tell me cheap managed servers)
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Nov 25, 2008
I have read that although chained root ssl certificates can be more difficult to install they are actually more secure since the root certificate cannot be compromised, only the intermediary.
Is this true? It looks like both google and amazon both use chained SGC certs.
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Mar 7, 2007
I've always had hosting where everything is pretty much already setup. I am now considering getting my own dedicated server. I see most good packages are Self Managed Servers.
I'm not a system admin and never had any experience managing and setting up my own server. Is this a lot of work? Is this something that is also pretty easily learned or does this really take a lot of knowledge?
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Jun 2, 2007
I'm thinking this is all I need.
- unmanaged
- Debian Etch
- 100gb transfer
- 128 to 256 ram
- around 5 gigs disk space
- 1 IP
- CPU... within reason but nothing special required
I don't need any proprietary control panels or any of that stuff. I'm perfectly fine and more comfortable on the command line anyways. Just give me the base net-install of etch and SSH listening and I'd be happy from there.
Basically all I want it for is as a backup MX with postfix/clamav/amavisd-new/spamd and secondary bind. Maaaaaybe apache from time to time for a little bit of personal stuff but nothing special. Shooting for cheap here because I don't really 'need' it, it would just be nice to have so I could supplement my other server off site rather than running failover how I currently do it.
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Apr 30, 2009
I'm looking into purchasing a VPS, and I saw unmanaged are cheaper.
What would I need to know/learn to do maintain an unmanaged VPS?
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Apr 18, 2008
I have read about all of the things you have to do with an unmanaged server, and how beginners shouldn't even try. I am pretty smart though I have a lot of experience with cpanel, and I am not worried about getting my feet wet.
This is the system I want:
Celeron 1.7 GHz
1 GB RAM
80 GB HD
1500 GB Bandwidth
cPanel / WHm
Full root access
How much time would it take to keep the thing running? How do you monitor the server? How do you know when software updates, and patches are available? Can all of the software needed be found for free? What kind of problems would I encounter, and would this be way over my head?
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Aug 12, 2008
As I've been reading these threads there seem to be plenty of unmanaged Linux VPS providers (e.g. Slicehost/Linode), but I'm not sure I've seen even a single mention of unmanaged Windows VPS providers. VPSLand, WiredTree, KickAssVPS all are managed. I'd like to know everyone's recommendations on good unmanaged Windows VPS?
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Aug 23, 2007
Of course Unmanaged is much cheaper than full managed and I decided to try with unmanaged plan.
what should I do to run my vps? what do I have to install or somekinds of that?
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Sep 29, 2007
Any good hosting companies providing unmanaged VPS reselling option in Europe?
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Nov 6, 2009
USA 3000+ GB bandwidth, below $100, unmanaged
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May 30, 2009
I want to find a good unmanaged server outside US for hosting a website. Actually, all I want is an unmanaged server anywhere but the URL registration should show anywhere outside USA.
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May 30, 2009
I want to find a good unmanaged server outside US for hosting a website. Actually, all I want is an unmanaged server anywhere but the URL registration should show anywhere outside USA.
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Mar 6, 2008
I have some experience with servers, have set up home servers in Linux, and have run a VPS for a year (trouble tickets available and Virtuozzo). I do not have any experience keeping a web server up 24/7 though. How daunting is this task if you have cPanel installed?
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Aug 17, 2008
how to setup OS on vps and how to use SSH. I cannot install other OS on my local machine which is running vista.
So i think the best way for me is to buy a cheap vps which i can use for my experiments and learning purposes.
Am i thinking correctly ?
If yes then please direct me to the best offer for my case, or help me to find it.
by the end i hope i will be able to setup vps, use SSH professionally.
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Jul 2, 2008
Can anyone recommend an unmanaged server with cpanel budget is about $80 pm about 1tb bandwidth. Currently with volumedrive but the network is really slow at the minute.
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Oct 12, 2008
With increased traffic lately I'm trying to plan my next move so I was hoping for some kind recommendation from you guys.
My current setup is 1 VPS from knownhost (managed) where i have my wordpress sites and 1 VDS at FDC (unmannged) for static content like images and zip files but i would like to have everything in one place because it would work out cheaper.
So the question is would i be risking too much if I moved my whole site to a unmanaged dedicated sever without having any expreice other than very basic stuff like intalling afp/ddos deflate?
Right now it seems like their isn't anything to it except upgrading the OS or mysql and things like that in the future...
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