I would like to buy a 24-port gigabit web managed switch, but I don't know which to choose.
The HP Procurve 1800-24 or Cisco SLM2024.
They have almost the same features but for example; the HP has (limited) lifetime warranty for example, and the Cisco supports IEEE 802.1D, Spanning Tree and Fastport.
Is the Cisco switch worth well over what the HP ProCurve costs? - The ProCurve has much less cache, but how much of a disadvantage is that for a switch?
View 7 Replies View RelatedI've been reading and searching on here as much as I can to try to help me in making a decision, unfortunately when I think I know what to do, I read something else and get confused again.
We are in the process of moving networks within our datacenter and will have 2 drops coming into our half-cabinet. We have about 7 servers in there, some for our own use and some for clients. In all cases, we manage the servers and are the only ones with root access (no need for VLANs for the purpose of protecting IPs etc).
We currently have a single drop and use an HP procurve 2524 layer2 switch that has been in there for over 6 years and never had a single hiccup. We also don't push much traffic at all though. Under 5mbps combined.
My question though is this: moving to the new network we will have 2 drops that are set up as HSRP on their end (upstream of me, I don't have to worry about having two switches). In order to use the dual feeds, we will need a Layer3 switch. One feed will be active, the other is not, both are connected to the switch via a VLAN and provide a gateway for VLAN2 to use. I have never used a layer3 switch, though I'm not *too* concerned since I don't expect we'll be doing anything too complex. My understanding is that one VLAN (VLAN1) will be set up with an IP address assigned to each drop and that VLAN1 will create a gateway for VLAN2. The second VLAN (VLAN2) will be all our "inside" client IPs that will then route through VLAN1.
I was briefly checking out the cisco 3750, but I think it's overkill...? I don't want to spend too much money, since I don't think we need any complex setups, at the same time, I don't want to waste money by buying something that won't work efficiently down the road.
My immediate short-list is now an HP procurve 2610, an HP procurve 3500 J9470A (not the YL), and a Cisco 3560 24-TS.
Of course, then someone mentioned Juniper (whom I have zero experience with either) and hence the title to my thread... I'm thoroughly confused. I was looking at the EX3200-24T.
Ok, so if I have to boil this down to some simple requirements/thoughts... here goes:
1. I only need 24 ports for now.
2. I use SNMP currently to monitor usage for clients (and overall)
3. I like HPs and have used them for layer2, I like their lifetime warranty and software availability
4. I don't have direct experience with Cisco at all.
5. Aside from routing from one VLAN (provider side) to another VLAN (my side), I don't think I need any other special features (hence the hp 2610 being ok I think, since it offers "lite layer3")
6. Some people say HP is great for layer2 but not for layer3? Now I dont' know what to think.
7. Currently use about 2mbps and might jump to 3 or 4mbps, but don't have major needs. I'd like for this switch to be able to last me a while though... so maybe 20~40mbps+? (but still not the hundreds of mbps that others here push
8. If possible, I'd LIKE to limit some servers to 1mbps or 2mbps on a per-port basis... but this is not a hard requirement. (I think this takes the 2610 out).
Budget: I like the $500 price tag of the 2610, but can spend the $1500~$2000 for the HP 3500, Cisco 3560, or Juniper. I would just rather not, if the price/features are not justifiable.
Hopefully I've provided enough information for someone to offer their insight? I think a few strategic key points or questions from someone with more experience might be what I need to help me bust through the "too many choices" fog and end up with the best switch for my situation...
Has anyone had experience with this product? How much bandwidth can it route? Does it support BGP? How much is the maximum ram available.
How would this compare to a Cisco 7200 with a low end engine like the NPE-300 or NPE-400?
I had a TTL of 1800s for my domain but since I will be soon moving to a new host, I lowered the value to 45s (the minimum I can use).
Since I had a first TTL of 1800s, does that mean that the new TTL value will be updated globally within 30mins? or will it take a random amount of time (few hours or so)?
I just want to wait to have the new 45s TTL value propagated everywhere before modifying the main IP.
I see on the HostGator sign up page they are including a 100 minute toll free number, with additional minutes bein 4.9 cents... this is with the Business plan. That is downright visionary product synergy in my opinion... ol Brent has done laid down some VISION spankins!
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Click on the little question mark for more detail... strangely, there is NO discussion that I can find of it in their own forums, so I posted it there as well, in the public pre-sales section, so anyone interested should probably keep an eye on both spots for maybe some official info droppage... I'd definitely like to know more about how it will operate and whatnot. Very interesting. I know I DEFINITELY have some good uses. I want to take live calls on a show, fer one.
My host has helped me to install a switch. However, I don't know how to configure using the command line. Could anyone help me?
I need to be able to connect to my Cisco switch using Cisco Network Assistant. If you know the command sequence,
with a mini-hp VLAN problem I'm having. I currently have a HP 2626 that a local client had lying around, but I'm having issues understanding the VLAN setup.
What he wants to do is to setup 12 servers off the HP 2626 and use the routing & VLAN support. I was wondering what options are used in the VLAN config to get this to work, as well as how to route additional IPs that may be used later on to VLANs. My cisco training tells me to use Trunk ports, but I don't think HP uses that terminology.
We are currently looking making some switch changes in our rack as we are expanding.
We don't push a whole lot of traffic (currently 15MBPS) but would like to think ahead for growth.
We are looking at using either the Procurve 1800-24G which will provide web managed 24 10/100/1000 ports or the Cisco Catalyst Express 520-24TT which provide web managed 22 10/100 & 2 10/100/1000 Ports.
Connected to these switch would be our servers and then uplink to our firewalls.
HP is cheaper and provides faster ports, but would Cisco provide additional value over the HP because it's Cisco and their experienced technology?
I have been really trying to learn all I can about layer-3 switches and have gotten good advice on my other post. I've never had to use them before, and in moving to a new datacenter network I'd like to take advantage of dual feeds that require a layer-3 switch.
I've been looking at switches that are across a broad spectrum of prices, between $500 and $2500 or so. I'm 95% decided on the HP procurve 2610 since we don't push a lot of traffic (under 5mbps) and I don't need anything too fancy. I considered a Cisco 3560 and 3750, as well as Juniper... but for this thread I'm really interested in hearing about any experiences with the hp 2610?
Essentially, two feeds from my DC will go into one VLAN, which will act as the gateway for a second VLAN, which has about 7 servers attached to it.
Since the layer-3 switch will be routing all traffic from one VLAN (7 servers) to the second VLAN (dual DC feeds), I'm curious to know if anyone has any experience with the hp 2610.
I don't need to give each server its own VLAN. Right now they are all under our own control, so they can all share the same VLAN. So one big VLAN for our servers routing to one tiny VLAN for the two uplinks is all I need.
Is there anyone configuring Procurve 2650 with Spanning Tree Protocol? I want to have redundant up links to different router ports, but whenever enable STP, it seems lead to loss packets too much
View 0 Replies View RelatedI am going to setup new clustering system with 2 Procurve 2650. One of public access and one for private connections (most for database access, control panel connections, backup files transfering). Aiming using around 35-38 servers. All servers using SM board with 2x gigabit NICs
Is there any trouble I can face to with that kind of network? Or any better solution with the same budget? or should I use gigabit switch for private connection?
I know a lot of people here on the boards have a good amount of experience with the HP switches. I am going to be ordering a 2810-24g this week and will need a 1000BaseSX sfp to throw in it. Are the HP's brand specific? IE do I absolutely need to purchase an HP sfp and not say, a foundry or cisco one? I need to figure out which one I will be ordering, hopefully one I can source locally quickly, so that I know if its connecting via lc or sc and make the call for the cross connect. I am in the bay area, maybe someone will know where I could pick one up too.
View 8 Replies View RelatedCan anyone suggest which one to go with?
View 5 Replies View RelatedI am looking for a Procurve 2848 switch. It's listed on ebay with different prices (from 650 to 3000usd). I wonder what price I should consider as a fair price? Dont want to pay much, but dont want to buy broken unit at cheap price either. An used one is fine whenever it's still working at all ports
View 4 Replies View RelatedWhat type of cable/settings are needed to access the console port of a ProCurve 2626 J4900A? the recent one I ordered wasnt working with the regular way I access these switches.
I use a null modem (crossover) female-female serial console cable and connect it to my laptop serial port w/9600-8-1-None to access my ProCurve 2900 48G series.
But I tried using a straight/null/rollover(cisco's) and none of them worked. I also tried 9800-8-1-xoff/xon. All of them are giving me weird text when I press [ENTER] numerous times. I can access my 2900 series switches fine, no problem, just these 2626 ones I cant. My laptop can definitely detect the port cause when I disable it, I get a message on my terminal window which says "disconnected". So I am messing up somewhere.
By the way, I actually returned the switch when it came the first time because I thought they gave me a faulty one and I got another one, but it behaves the same way. But the actual switch functionality has no issues as I can assign my servers IPs and be able to access them remotely. I just cant configure the switch itself without the console port.
I'm having a tough time finding a discernible difference between the 2810 and the 2848, beyond the $1k price premium on the 2848. Can anybody speak to the benefits of the 2848 over the 2810?
View 5 Replies View RelatedThe only main difference I see between 2848 (48 ports) and 2650 (48 ports) is the vast difference in thoroughput and switching capacity, 2848 (Throughput: Up to 69.8 mpps; Switching capacity: 96 Gbps) having a higher capacity and 2650 (Throughput: 10.1 million pps; Routing/switching capacity: 13.6 Gbps).
So now, if there is a public switch for http/ftp/ssh and private switch for backups and there are about 35 servers connected to each switch, does it make sense if I go with 2800 for the private switch and 2600 for the public?
The basis of my conclusion is that on a public port with limited bandwidth, a user cannot continuously push close to 100mbps for long before running out of bandwidth. But on a private switch where the user has unlimited bandwidth and can push 100mbps continuously for longer periods and some of the users on the private switch might also have 1gbps port access.
I've been tasked with buying a "good" edge switch for my company's datacenter presence. After a full day of searching around and reading, I think I have decided on a procurve. The question now is what is sufficient for our needs.
We currently have 8 machines and will possibly add another 3 or 4 before the end of the year. We're running gigabit everywhere at the moment, and at bare minimum would need gigabit to 3 of our servers currently. Hopefully we will need gigabit to 4 or 5 servers by the end of the year.
Our website is of very high value to us, but we're also very much in the startup mentality of pinching pennies.
My question is if a web managed switch like the procurve 1800-24g has some performance/reliability downsides compared to like a 2810-24g managed switch. Looks like the 1800-24g can be had for about $400, and the 2810-24g for about $1300.
Searching around this forum, I saw a few references to the 1800-24g where the comment was that it would be great for a lower throughput need. Can anyone tell me why this would be insufficient for higher demands?
Our peak sustained throughput on the uplink to the hosting provider's router so far has been about 120mbps, and we hope to double this by end of year (and grow beyond).
If possible, I would like to be forward looking to the point where we will want to spend more money and have redundant switches in place to protect uptime. I do see that the 2810-24g is listed as stackable, but reading /rnd/pdfs/ProCurve_Stacking_Technology.pdf on HP's website (newbie not allowed to link in posts) seems to me to say that I wouldn't have any options for automatic failover to a slave switch with it. Does anyone know if this is correct?
Having a failover hot switch ready is not a deal breaker since we're only looking at switches that will give us high confidence in the first place.
How about comments on the wisdom of buying something like this used? My gut instinct is that I should avoid used since this is a high performance single point of failure for our entire internet presence. But I don't know how rock solid I should expect a used procurve to be.
In case you are wondering, our technical needs from the switch our modest. I will probably set up a vlan for each of our load balancing clusters to contain multicasting, but the only other feature I know of so far that I desire is the snmp reporting data.
I guess the root question is - would a web managed procurve leave me at a disadvantage for row performance or reliability compared to a full managed procurve?
Anyone know anything about cisco pix 501s? i need help setting one up if anyone can give me a hand.
View 14 Replies View RelatedI just got a Cisco PIX 501 from my IT Guy for home use and he didn't reset the firewall to default settings so there are ton of old commands in here.
Is there a command I can use to reset the firewall back to the factory default settings?
Or is there anyway I can flash it back to factory default settings?
I am interested to buy a Cisco ASA firewall. So far I have never played with this gears and I wonder if it is easy to setup.
Is there any software provided by Cisco to setup rules and ACL thru some graphic interface software ?
We are looking to replace our existing WatchGuard Firebox's with a hopefully more reliable firewall from Cisco's range although I'm a bit lost when it comes to the different ranges.
Could somebody suggest a firewall that is capable of:
1: Both NAT & Drop-in (bridge) mode
2: Pretty low bandwidth requirements, no more than 10mbit/s traffic
3: SNMP Monitoring
4: High availability pairing
I am on a tight budget for a Cisco firewall. I am browsing and seeing some affordable options in the x600 series.
Please tell me, which series is best?:
1600
2600
3600
The higher the better?..
Also what about submodels, like is 1650 better than 1600?
And how can I tell how much DRAM each one can take up to?
I see a lot of DDos related articles here at WHT. We've got hit multiple times by DDos and had to handle those attacks everytime with a different approach.
The largest one and the most well know one (we were in Times Mag, AP news, CNN, slashdot, you name it - just do a search about us on WHT) was Russian botnet cyberattack - we had to anaylyze netflow and then block everything on our edge routers, then on the firewall and then locally on the servers.
Since then we had number of other attacks, some of them we were not able to defend on the server level, while, as you can understand we can't do netwflow and manual intervention evey time somebody gets an attach.
We have very good scripts which allow to mitigate huge number of DDos attack, whet our scripts are finding attacking IPs and blocking them automatically - still some attacks could be blocked only on the router level.
I've read that Cisco Guard (I am interesed in 65xx version of it) suppose to mitigate DDos attacks in automatic mode.
after months of disruption moving servers into a new data centre, our once reliable colocation company has now had nearly 6 hours downtime in the last 16 hours. So much for network redundancy.
View 5 Replies View RelatedI am looking at picking up a switch to mess around with at home. I found the following within driving distance but have no idea of which one will give me more up to date, hands on experience. Any feedback is greatly appreciated.
Used Cisco WS-C5509 Chassis with power supply ( POWER SUPPLY 34-0870-01), and fan (WSC5509FAN)
Cisco WS-X5530-E2 Supervisor Engine III Modules
Cisco Systems WS-U5537-FETX CISCO 4 PORT 100BASETX UPLINK MODULE
Cisco WS-X5234-RJ45 Switch Modules X 8
$160 each.
Cisco WS-C5500 Chassis
POWER SUPPLY 34-0773-03
Cisco Ws-x5550 Supervisor Engine Iii G-series
WS-X5234-RJ45 X 11
For $200
Cisco WS-C5505 Chassis
Cisco WS-X5530-E2 Supervisor Engine III Modules
Cisco WS-U5533-FEFX-MMF Supervisor Engine III Uplink Modules
Cisco WS-X5225R Switch Modules X 2
For $140
I'm trying to learn about network. I bought Cisco 2950 for testing. I set it up and finding out the way to cap its ports at 20Mbps or 50Mbps. Do you know what command or how to do this?
Also what command to check the port speed or to uncap the port?
Other than eBay does anyone know of a supplier of Cisco gear that has good prices and knows their Cisco equipment?
View 14 Replies View RelatedI am setting up a small ccna lab and i have RIP working and i can ping my lan from both routers, but only certain hosts on the lan from the one router the setup is
LAN (192.168.1.0/255.255.255.0)
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router 1 E0 192.168.1.45
Serial0 10.10.10.1
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Serial0 10.10.10.2 (of router2)
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E0 192.168.3.250
E1 192.168.2.250
Lo 192.168.5.4
I can ping 192.168.1.102 from router 2 and 192.168.1.45 but no not 192.168.1.201 ... or 192.168.1.1
also i can ping 192.168.5.4 from 192.168.1.102 which is a linux box and an ip route to tell it that 192.168.5.0 can be gotten from 192.168.1.45
What is the difference between the Cisco PIX and Cisco ASA Firewall Systems?
Also which firewall do you guys recommend for a rack of servers