Database Server - SCSI/Raptor
Jan 29, 2008
I'm about to purchase a 2nd server to use as a database server. I've been quoted for 2 x SATA II 320GB hdd's in RAID 1 (the same of which I currently use on my single server), but searching around it appears SCSI is the norm for db servers. The problem is, my host does not offer these as a standard/upgrade option and they would need to be specially ordered (along with RAID card), which is expensive.
The fastest disks they offer are 150GB SATA 10K Raptors. My question is, would these be sufficient (compared to SCSI) and do they perform noticeably better than the standard SATA II disks?
Quoted database server specs:
Server = 1 x Dual Core Intel Woodcrest 5130
Memory = 4G RAM
Hard Drive 1 = 320G SATA II Hard Drive
Hard Drive 2 = 320G SATA II Hard Drive
Raid Config = RAID 1 (3 Ware Hardware RAID)
Bandwidth = 3000G Multi-Homed Bandwidth
IP Address = 4 IPs
OS = Centos 4.6 32 bit
Service Monitoring = Ping Monitoring with Email Notification
Server Management = Self-Managed
Control Panel = None
$239 Monthly
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Oct 26, 2008
I'm going to use it for a massive SQL database driven site.
Was wondering if SA-SCSI 10K RPM is far away better than Raptor SATA 10K if combined with quad core processor and 8GB RAM?
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Sep 12, 2008
My 150gb Raptor drive in my Q9300 + 8gb ram server got corrupt. When restarting, the tech got a halt error:
Windows failed to load because the kernel debugger DLL is missing, or corrupt.
Status: 0xc00000e9
File: Windowssystem32kdcom.dll
Their tech support is good, but I've lost all my valuable data. I can't say that I'm happy about using Limestonenetworks now. I never suspected that I'd be having a disk failure in the first month.
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Apr 21, 2008
We have a powerful server for our databases, 8 cores, 4gb ram etc because we have a huge amount of MySQL data. We store the data on a standard SATAII 500GB drive, would we notice a dramatic performance improvement if we stored the data on a SA-SCSI 10/15k drive?
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Apr 17, 2008
Within 2 servers below, what is faster than:
Server 1:
Primary hard driver: 73GB SCSI 10k (for system, database...)
Secondary hard driver: 160GB SATA (for /home/ directory)
Server 2: 2 x 160GB SATA RAID 1
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Sep 11, 2008
Would having a 15k rpm SCSI HD (vs 7200rpm SATA) provide significant improvement for a web server only running php scripts (the scripts are small in size, they just make DB calls to another server and return the results)? What if eAccelerator was installed?
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Aug 22, 2006
Hi, I've been lurking around WebHostingTalk for a little while now and have finally decided to register and post. I see there are tons of knowledgeable game server professionals in this forum and thought this would be a great place to get some helpful hints while having fun at the same time. I currently have a server colocated in Los Angeles. I was able to get a server built for cheap with the following specs:
IBM eServer 326 (1U)
AMD Opteron 275 (room for 2)
2 GB DDR400 ECC-R
15K SCSI Hard Drives
Windows 2003 Server
Bandwidth: 3Mbps Burstable Mzima.
I'm trying to run a couple of Counter-Strike 1.6 servers for a couple of friends and clanmates of mine. There are currently only 3, maybe up to 5 if possible, servers being run right now with 1 of them being a 24 player public server (which isn't really filled 24/7), the rest are private match servers. I've been trying to accelerate them each to 250FPS+, 250FPS for the public and 500FPS+ for the private match servers but am having running problems.
The problem I am having is that only 1 of the servers will be able steadily maintain 500FPS. The other servers would fluctuate between 300 - 1000FPS. I've tried the "Windows Media Player/Flash" trick, and also the WinHL-Booster metamod plugin none of which have been able to suite our needs. We all want steady 500FPS w/ low pings for our private match servers for CALeague, because we all get jealous of each other.
I’ve been searching around for a while and don’t know what else to do. Any help that you all can provide will be greatly appreciated.
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Jun 20, 2008
1) what is the command to find out what processor is installed on the server
2) how do i find out what type on hdd i have sata or scsi?
whats the ssh command to find these two things out?
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Apr 11, 2008
For a server would a Raptor (10K rpm) Do better than same capacity SATA-2drive?
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Apr 28, 2008
How much faster is a Raptor 74GB 10,000rpm compared to a Seagate 250GB SATA-II 7200rpm? Both are priced the same. I'm comtemplating on which one to use for a database..go for more storage or a faster drive.
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Jan 14, 2008
So I've just got a server with 2xSATA raid 1 (OS, cpanel and everything in here) and 4xSCSI raid 10 (clean).
Which one do you guys think will give the best performance:
1. Move mysql only to 4xSCSI raid 10
2. Move mysql and home folder to 4xSCSI raid 10
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Dec 21, 2008
i currently have a shared vps.
any recommendations for SCSI 10k or 15k? Core2Duo would be nice as well. ~4gb ram
I dont need a lot of HDD space or bandwidth. I'm also open to "hybrid" servers as well
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Oct 26, 2009
Maybe what the advantages/disadvantages are of each in regards to a web hosting configuration?
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Jul 20, 2009
According to the documentation, Hyper-V VMs cannot boot from SCSI drives and requires an IDE drive for each virtualization. I'm new to Windows (Server 2008) and Hyper-V and planning out some hardware.
Does anyone know if it is possible to:
Set up the the server with 2 SATA Drives (Raid 1), along with 8 x Ultra320 SCSI Drives (Raid 5 or 6).
Load the OS and set up all Virtual slices on the SATA drives, so that that virtual boot sectors are on the IDE drives, but the main bulk of the clients allotted space on the SCSIs? Is there issue with that and if so, how do you manage that?
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Jun 11, 2009
about SSD vs SCSI vs SATA HDDs?
I heard that SSD are slow in writing, but fast in reading.
is this true?
80GB Intel X25-M SSD is the model i am looking at.
Is this HDD recommended on servers? will this perform better then SCSI or SATA RAID10?
how this works, tell me more about writing
eading speeds (on SSD) etc.
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Apr 30, 2008
what is the benefit of scsi upon a sata hdisk
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May 13, 2008
I wonder which drive give the best performance? Look like they all have the same 15000 rpm. :d
Any experience?
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Jan 20, 2007
currently my home comp is using a WD 7200 rpm drive, im thinking of upgrading it to raid 0 10k rpm drives, here are the drives newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16822116006 and this is the raid card, newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16816118050 and then i was looking into cables for a scsi drive but i know nothing about them, my friend showed me these cables he found provantage.com/cables-go-09476~7CBTE01N.htm but it says there scsi3 now does this matter? what is scsi 3 and can it be used for these raid cards and hdd, the cables i was lookin at newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16812193019 are 30 bucks each, now do i need to buy 2 of these for my raid 0 or what? any suggestions on what are the best scsi cables for me and best transfer rate? links would be great too.
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Dec 28, 2007
I currently have a Dell Poweredge 2650 from a few years back, it is running...
2x Xeon 2.4ghz 512K
3GB DDR266 RAM
1x73GB SCSI
Back in the day this system cost $2000, now it's not worth close to that.
So my plans were to dump this bad boy as an SQL server, seeing it has the SCSI backplane and 3GB of RAM, and SQL usually doesn't need as much CPU as a web server.
Now my question, would it be better to use this server or would it be better to build a cheap Core 2 Duo with a RAID0 array with a few SATA drives?
Before you start going off on RAID0, it doesn't matter to me because I am using clustering/failover so data will not be lost and no downtime will be received if the array fails.
Basically what I want to know, is it worth it to keep this server and build upon it or would it be better to sell this server and look into spending an extra few hundred to build a new system with SATA RAID.
I'm going by price/performance rather than reliability as I am using failover to let you know once again .
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Jul 5, 2007
is there any converters out there for sas drives to regular scsi adapters?
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Sep 2, 2009
I am looking for something like this:
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To work on an HP ProLiant DL360/380. All I know is they are SCSI U320 drive bays, or that is the type of drive they take. Can anyone provide any insight on what may work? We are trying to get a more cost effective way to get more storage into a server. The largest SCSI drive I can find is 300GB for $200. You can get 2TB drives for that much these days.
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Aug 30, 2008
Is there a way that I can check if the host provider installed the correct hardware for my server?
I had 3x Seagate 73GB 15k RPM SCSI so I wonder if there is a way to confirm that make sure they gave me the 15k but not 10k?
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May 9, 2008
I can have this refurb for 300$!
What could you potentially host on that? A phpBB with 100 000 visits a day ? About 150 small blogs?
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Apr 11, 2008
is it really worth the money nowadays to put in SCSI or SAS instead of SATAII (single disk, non-raid here), IF reliability is the only concern (i.e. NOT i/o performance) during the usual 3 year life time of a server?
Actually, I was pretty amazed by the sata reliability, in the past 3 years the only hdd failure was two sata on a mismatched mobo, which didn't support SATAII (a lot of read/write error, eventually died). Although we have 0% scsi and sas failure.
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Feb 2, 2007
I've got a Dell SC1425 1U Rackmount server right now with SATA. I have a new customer who needs a 73GB SCSI 15Krpm drive. Any suggestions as to what I should do for a SCSI controller and drive? I need something that is reliable and tested.
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Oct 2, 2007
For building a house for, ie, 30 VPS, what kind of disks are you using? normal SATA? Raptor? SCSI?
I am going to use Quad-core CPU with 4-8GB RAM, but still wondering about the disks
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Aug 11, 2008
Is it worth to pay $75 for 147GB SA-SCSI 15K RPM rethar than free 250GB SATA II?
I mean is it very big differance in speed?
Can clients feel that?
If the box is Single Processor Quad Core Xeon 5310 - 1.60GHz (Clovertown) - 1 x 8MB cache from softlayer
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Jan 24, 2007
HI have an urgent need to get this server up. I am trying to install 2x147gb U320 drives on a Tyan S5372 board with the Adaptec AIC-7901x SCSI controller module. I have setup RAID 1 so far and updated the Bios to latest version as well. For some reason when I specify the additional device drivers for the adaptec card for scsi win2k3 still doesn't recognize the drives.
I don't know what to do now and time is running out. I have tried over and over again with different disks thinking it could be a bad disk however that is not the case. I hooked up a sata drive to this server and win2k3 installed fine.
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Dec 11, 2007
Planning to buy a server from softlayer, adding a single 300gb 15k scsi drive costs 100$/month and adding 4 250gb sata drives with raid-10 costs 90$/month
Which one would you pick up and why?
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