DNS Failover/Redundancy

May 1, 2008

Basically have 2 hosting accounts at different providers...each set-up for the same domain name...and then somehow wtih DNS make it so if host #1 goes down traffic goes to host #2 (which would basically be a splash screen explaining that host #1 is down and will be back soon).

DNS isn't my strong point, but I do know you can do this with MX records...so if the first server fails it tries the next until it gets a working one or reaches the end of the list. I'd just like to do it is A records.

It wouldn't be as simple as setting the nameservers like this would it?

ns1.host1.com
ns2.host1.com
ns1.host2.com
ns2.host2.com

Would it use the host1 nameservers as long as they're online, and if not failover to the host2 nameservers? If so, great, but what if the host1 nameservers are online but the server itself is not.

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Redundancy DNS Fail

Oct 7, 2006

what happens when I have 2 DNS servers on my domain and 1 fails?
around 50% of the access fails... or they detect DNS timeout and try the other one, so 50% of the access would just take more time?

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Aug 19, 2008

im now having a second server located somewhere else then my first one.

I'd like to setup something to have redundance. if server1 goes down or even if it's too much loaded server2 take the charge.

How can i do this?

let say im having a domain "mydomain.com"

Server1 ip: 10.0.0.1 (Services; Apache, DNS)
server2 ip: 192.168.0.1 (Services; Apache, DNS)

mydomain.com nameserver would be.
ns1.mydomain.com -> 10.0.0.1
ns2.mydomain.com -> 192.168.0.1

Now will i have to create 2 NS record on both server plus A record.
I cant understand this part ?

Now how would i setup bind so they replicate zone btw each other?

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Apr 11, 2008

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Is the best solution getting two switches and hooking each machine up to both? How hard is that to setup in Linux? I've used keepalived for whole machine failover but not for network failover.

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Sep 19, 2008

I have multiple hosting plans with different hosts and in different areas. I also have some STATIC websites.

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I thought of changing the nameservers of my domain to

IP1 Hosted on host 1
IP2 Hosted on host 2
IP3 Hosted on host 3

of course the files will be uploaded to all three servers.

Is it possible and how should it be done?

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Jun 2, 2008

I host several web clients that were recently impacted by the crap at ThePlanet. As I think about how to be more redundant (and repetitive) I'm not sure of my options.

What's the best practice to ensure that if you have a server at a data center that goes out, that you can (somewhat) easily switch over to a different server? I suppose one solution is to have 2 servers at 2 physical locations, and then you could just change the DNS record in the event of failure, but is there another solution I'm not aware of? Is there a good resource I can goto to read up on this info?

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Sep 29, 2009

I am planning to buy a dedicated server and a shared server from a hosting company.
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Somehow the servers would need to be constantly synchronized so that the files saved to one are immediately saved to the other server as well.

Can somebody told me how to setup the 2 server so that my dedicated server can serve as the main server and if the dedicated server is down, the shared server can automatically be activated and visitors of my website will auto be redirect to the shared server.

Do i need to setup any backup DNS too so that when the dedicated server is down, it will auto redirect the user to the shared server.

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May 5, 2008

I am working on setting up a few servers that run cPanel and the usual software, minus any sort of DNS server. These servers are setup to sync all DNS records over to a cPanel "Dns Only" (ns1.domain.com), which in turn syncs all its records to a backup DNS server (ns2.domain.com).

In other words:
[Domain registrar]
| |
[NS1]--Sync-->[NS2]
|
(Sync to NS1)
|
Cpanel Web Server

Now, say something happens to NS1 and the sever goes completely offline (i.e. power supply dies, CPU goes bad, etc.), which of the following scenarios would actually happen:

1) Because the registrar lists both NS1 and NS2 as NS records, NS1 would time out and the DNS lookup would look to the secondary DNS (NS2) for the record.

2) The registrar would randomly give out NS1 OR NS2 because of round robin, and if NS1 is given to a client as the result of a DNS lookup, the site will appear down, however if the client happens to be referred to NS2, the site would appear online.

3) The site would be down no matter what.

So, if someone with knowledge on the subject wouldn't mind enlightening me as to which of those would actually take place in the event of a failure on NS1, and maybe some suggestions as to keeping the DNS truely "redundant", then I would greatly appreciate it.

And Im aware that there are many 3rd party services that will take care of the DNS records and make them redundant (DYNDNS, DNSMadeEasy, etc) But I would prefer to keep the DNS in our full control.

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Oct 5, 2009

Let’s say I have the website myname.com

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When Server A fails due to datacenter or rack problem and no site is responding, then I need some service to transfer ALL traffic to server B. Is there any (paid or free) service doing such a thing? If yes, what about dns propagation? As far as I am concerned, dns propagation is a very slow procedure depending on each internet provider.

So how could we instantly make Server B to come live to ALL visitors? Is there any quick and reliable dns redundancy system without having to wait for dns propagation?

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Aug 14, 2008

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Nov 11, 2008

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Nov 20, 2008

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I am looking for a server to have a fast mysql query.

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Mar 18, 2008

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But its a lights out facility. I want someone else to handle backups, rebooting when needed, etc.

I'd like to let someone else provide the service. Use my 2U server or I can rent yours.

Need MySql, Apache, Tomcat, SSL, Java, ssh access. I've got wildcard certs for SSL, domain registered, etc.

I'm guessing that I can get this for about $500 per month with low bandwidth (this is an IT application, not peer-to-peer or torrents.). Let me know if my budget is off base. I think one megabyte/second sustained over the month, 95% averaged is suffiicent. At least until the business grows, we can then talk about getting racks of blades at higher cost.

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Jul 15, 2006

I don't have a problem with Bluehost, but after getting this email tonight I would have thought that it's not that hard to have enough fuel and a big enough generator to last more than five minutes after a power outage. It seems like pretty poor redundancy planning if a major host can't last more then five minutes with no power. Hospitals and other places don't have any problem doing it with similar or bigger power demands.

Dear Bluehost Customer,

This evening (July 14th) from about 5:25pm-6:55pm many of our servers
were offline causing significant downtime for many of our users. The
outage was due to a severe power outage in the north end of Orem, Utah
where our servers are located. We do have UPS backup as well as diesel
generators, but at about 5:30 they finally gave out. The power outage
was for much longer than that period of time, but the reserve power
was eventually consumed in its entirety. When it rains it pours.

For users on box65-box145 there have been periodic problems with the
Redhat linux kernel that we were using that was causing problems with
the filesystem that your data is stored on. This issue has been causing
periodic problems for users on those boxes. In the last few days we have
resolved that issue which also caused those boxes to require a reboot.

The downtime is extremely regretable. We apologize profusely for the
inconvenience to our customers and in turn to those who were trying to visit
your sites during the outage. With the fixes we have put in place in the
last few days coupled with other upgrades you should experience MUCH
better uptime in the future.

Thanks for you patience,

Matt Heaton / President Bluehost.com

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Feb 4, 2008

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How good is hot swapping in Linux? This was very hard to me to find out online. I am getting a 1U rack with a hot swap backplane and 2 SATA drives. I won't be using any commercial software with my setup.

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I think I can shop around NYC for a 1U slot for around $40 a month. I don't need a lot of transfer, but would like a decent pipe. The thought of 1Mbit sounds unattractive (transfer is around 100KBytes/s, right?). How much would 10Mbit cost? I found some quotes but they seem way too much (I could be wrong).

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Aug 24, 2008

Not sure where this belonged so put it in web hosting as it could cover dedicated, colo or shared.

In a couple of months I am going to be launching a new e-commerce website for the company I work for, so it is absolutely vital that the website never goes offline, otherwise I will be in deep ****.

It will be hosted on a server that has been built to be very redundant; 2x Hotswappable Redundant PSU, 4x Hotswappable HDDs (RAID 6), Redundant NIC.

Sods law though to achieve this redundancy it will need to be on a colocated server, so if there is a major problem like the motherboard dying, then I will have to get down to the DC (3 hours away) and replace the entire server. Which wouldn't be practical as we would need a replacement server, all setup and ready to go, to do that.

Also, if there is a problem with the data centre itself, then we would be stuck until it is resolved. I have hosted sites with data centres in the past that experienced power or network problems which sent the sites down and it was totally out of our control to either prevent the downtime or restore the sites.

So to increase redundancy, and minimise downtime, I was thinking of load balancing between two servers. But then I assume they would both have to be hosted in the same data centre.

I was also thinking of having the site hosted on the server, but having some shared hosting (or a cheap dedi) ready to go just to fall back on if the server goes down. That way I can forward requests to the shared hosting as a temporary measure whilst the main server is restored. But the problem with that is I would probably need to get another SSL certificate. I would need to get the payment gateway provider (protx) to change the settings for the IP of the shared hosting, which knowing them will take 72 hours to process.

Budget really isn't an issue here if it can be justified, just looking for some ideas at this stage. There is no way this site can be down for a second longer than it needs to be.

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May 16, 2007

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Everything is Vlaned.

So basicaly the switch redundancy is done by spanning tree and the IP redundancy is done with a process on the router/server to move the IP to the other router/server NIC if there is an issue.

I am thinking about going with 2 fully seperate networks. in differant subnets. where each router would have a gateway. the routers would talk to each other and they would speak OSPF or ISIS with the servers. This way I would move hosting onto loopback IPs on the servers and those loopback IPs would be advertised to the both routers through seperate networks.
Again everything would be Vlanned.

This has the advantage of getting rid of spanning tree which has caused issues from time to time. It would keep redundancy up and we could standardize on the routing daemon ran on the servers allowing all of the various OSs we run to have the same basic config for network redundancy. Where now each OS tends to have its own solution. This would make life easier from a config and troubleshooting point of view.

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Mar 26, 2009

I want to add a DNS Failover automated service at my server, in order that when it goes down, the DNS Failover enters in action and it will redirect all the traffic to a second backup/failover server (hosted at a different location).

So in order to do this i have been looking around and i have found dnsmadeeasy, and i found their offer interesting.

But i still have some question and doubts on how a dns failover service works. So maybe someone can expalin it to me.

My question and doubts:

1 - If i use for example the DNS failover from dnsmadeeasy, i would have to buy 2 servers where one is the principal server and the other is a backup/failover server, so when my main server goes down, the dnsmadeeasy will detect in a automatic way, and redirect all the traffic to my backp/failover server. After my principal server goes back online, dnsmadeeasy will automatic redirect all the traffic to the principal server.

Im i correct? Or i understound wrong how this works?

2 - I use my own Nameservers and i want to continue to use my own nameservers. So if i use dnsmadeeasy services, i will be able to continue to use my nameservers as ns1/ns2 and then i will add the dnsmadeeasy ns3/ns4...as the following example:
ns1.mynameservers.com
ns2.mynameservers.com
ns3.dnsmadeeasy.com
ns4.dnsmadeeasy.com
ns5.dnsmadeeasy.com
ns6.dnsmadeeasy.com

Correct?

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Apr 4, 2009

I am planning to rent 2 managed dedicate servers with windows server 2008 and ms.sql 2008.
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why people usually divide them into web and database server? is it for security or performance reason?

Which one you prefer to choose?

- 1 server for web and 1 server for database.
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Aug 4, 2007

In making my plans for my web hosting business I plan to start, I've thought about a failover but wanted to know the best way to set it up.

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I already have DNS setup offsite.

I would like that if my server(s) go down for any reason, whatsoever, that DNS automatically starts serving the temp site.

so if my server suddenly goes down, [url]or [url]suddenly goes to the offsite shared hosting plan.

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Feb 21, 2009

I have a reseller account with a company that often has spontaneous DNS errors, and this, as you know looses us money. I also have a dedicated server running a panel exclusively via IIS. Is there a way I can set up my dedicated (Windows) box and my reseller account in a mirror way, so if one of them fails, the other will take over.

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(Or, if a shared hosting company can accommodate this somehow and is relatively inexpensive.

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Has anyone managed to create such a system? is there someone with experience or can point me to a relevant web site?

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Jul 8, 2007

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