Cloud Dedicated Hosting
Jul 21, 2008
I currently rent a dedicated server from HiVelcity, and I'm very unhappy with it (unstable as hell, faulty hardware, etc.)
I am about to launch a new web application running on LAMP (P=PHP, i.e. Symfony)... And I'm expecting some heavy traffic on release day... I already know my current server can't survive being Dugg (been on the homepage several times), and was wondering maybe I should consider the so-called cloud hosting services being offered... Or just go with a new more powerful dedicated server.
What do you guys think would be best for a PHP+MySQL heavy site that is expecting a rush of traffic?
Also, if I choose something like (mt)Grid-Service, or Mosso, do I sacrifice future customizability (e.g. Sphinx, MemCache)? I have to say the ease of use is tempting for a non-linux guy like me, but I don't want to be constrained in the future because of current choices.
Thanks.
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Apr 9, 2008
I'm planning on launching a php-based web application within a month or two and am weighing different hosting options. I was almost certain with my plan to use two dedicated servers (one for web, one for db) but I can't help reading about all of these new grid/cloud/utility hosting solutions that promise instant scalability and deployment - which sounds like a blessing. I know there is a lot of garbage and marketing hype so I felt I should ask what the real deal is. Are these services reliable, worth using, really that easy to use, powerful, etc? I was looking at gogrid's demo videos and to instantly launch a few web servers, a db server, load balancer, etc, in 15 minutes for 30% of the cost - I can't ignore it.
So whats the deal?
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Oct 4, 2008
I've got a dedicated server through Liquid Web. I can't say enough about how great the reliability and service has been since I switched over to them a number of months ago.
Nevertheless, with the advent of cloud hosting, I'm intrigued by the idea of paying for what I actually use on a server rather than having way more capacity than I need 90% of the day.
I've looked around here and there's a bit of talk about it but it doesn't seem like folks are scrambling into it and it also appears that the offereings are still relatively immature.
I really don't have the time to devote to tweaking, etc or figuring out something really complicated.
I'll stick to my dedicated server if it means tons of extra work or potential downtime or massive frustration but I wanted to get some feedback from the community about whether or not there are some stable cloud hosting options that are emerging that might be worth considering.
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Nov 9, 2009
I've just spent 20-odd minutes on the live chat to someone at SoftLayer to ask if there is any advantage using Cloud Servers over a VPS / Dedicated for a WHM/CPanel system. Unfortunately I didn't receive any answer other than "WHM would work in a Cloud server with certain types of OS only". Strange answer.
Can anyone shed any light on this?
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May 10, 2009
is Cloud Windows VPS the same as a Load Balanced Windows VPS?
Basically, looking for redundancy and UK based solutions. Does anyone have any reviews for established companies offering the above?
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Oct 28, 2009
we are about to launch the public version of our website, and we are having trouble deciding which type of server to start with. We've reading a lot and contacting all providers to get a quote, but we haven't been able to take a decision. Maybe somebody with more experience can help us...
- most of our users are going to be (for the time being) in Spain. We plan to move to other markets in the future, but not before one year.
- we understand that the server location (or it's IP address) is important in terms of SEO, that's why we've been looking into spanish providers or providers that offer spanish IPs. This SEO thing is the main reason we have ignored Amazon ec2, which, on the paper, seems to be a very good option for websites that expect to increase their traffic rapidly.
- we are going to start with very few users, but we expect to be in >5000 users/day very soon. Hopefully, we will keep a steady growth for the next months, but this is something we can't anticipate for sure.
- our website is based on PHP&MySQL. Each user consumes quite a lot of memory, and queries to the database are very frequent and quite heavy in processing. On the local version (iMac - 3.06GHz Intel Core 2 Duo - 2GB RAM), a typical query from a single user takes around 2 seconds. We still have to do some optimization, but there is not much room for it left...
- our budget is 150-200 Euro/Month, but we would be able to increase it in case we find out it is needed in order to have a decent website.
- we are no experts in Linux sys-admin, but we can do the basic stuff, such as installing, configuring Apache, etc.
Therefore, we need 'something' that is powerfull enough to satisfy our users and that is easily&transparently scalable in case we have a sudden increase of users. From our readings on this forum and others, we understand that VPSs are not powerfull enough for us. On the other hand, dedicated servers are not easy to adapt to an increase in the number of users. Finally, in Spain we have found that Arsys is offering what they call 'cloud server', which looks similar to Amazon's ec2. We haven't been able to find any objective review on this Arsys offering, so we don't know how good it is. Anyone has worked with this system?
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Oct 2, 2009
I'm currently running two classified ad sites with a php script and a mysql database. Both just launched, but I expect them to have decent traffic within 1 year.
Here are the two options I'm currently considering:
1. a fully managed dedicated server such as Wiredtree provides. This will roughly cost me between $250 and $350/month.
2. go with Rackspace Cloud. Take advantage of their $100/month and then just pay as you go as traffic increases.
It's a hard decision.
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Jul 3, 2008
I noticed some cloud computing service providers, like, amazon, gogrid, etc. are all based on XEN server, is there any provider offers cloud computing on real dedicated server?
another question is, anyone knows the difference between traditional cluster and cloud computing. I did not see big difference based on their own description.
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May 10, 2009
I have been very interested in Mosso for quite some time, though Cloud Sites didn't seem quite right for what I needed with the compute cycles they had. However, their fairly new Cloud Sites looks very interesting, and their sales people at least will have me believe load balancing with several server instances will be superior to my current dedicated server.
Right now I have a server with Liquid Web that costs me $424/mo and 4x Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q6600 @ 2.40GHz with 4GB of RAM. The average load on the server is anywhere from 30% at low times to 70-80% at peak times and memory usage is usually 20-50%. On average there are about 1000 mysql queries per second as the site is very ajax-intensive (hence Cloud Sites being way too expensive).
I don't really know the difference and technical side of all of this, I just program and do the business side of things, but I really like what Mosso has and am wondering if I would get a performance boost going with their Cloud Servers (Going with something like 8 server instances at 512mb RAM each @ only around $200/mo including bandwidth). Also, would I want to load balance all 8, or do something like 4 running the mysql and the other 4 serving the actual site?
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Jun 16, 2009
What are some good questions to ask about VPS cloud hosting before signing up with them?
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Apr 1, 2009
Went to go through Precision Effect's site earlier and noticed they're offering "Cloud" hosting?
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Feb 11, 2009
Cloud hosting is still a 'blackbox' to me ... hope anyone can answer me. I have 5 questions to start the discussion with.
What is cloud hosting?
Is it cheaper than (shared/dedicated/semi-dedicated) server hosting?
Is it secure?
How many SSL license I need to purchase if I host my website (one website) in cloud?
Which cloud hosting you recommend and why?
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Sep 30, 2009
I need another server upgrade, hosting package upgrade.
I'm looking into cloud hosting because of the scalability.
What's the best
#1 Reliable
#2 Great Support
#3 Affordable
cloud hosting company.
Rackspace seems to be great on #1 and #2 i guess but #3 they are a bit more expensive. I know someone is going to say "you get what you pay for", but thats why i put Affordable at #3.
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Aug 24, 2009
What do you guys think of Cloud Hosting, and how this could affect current web hosting trend?
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Oct 7, 2009
Anyone knows the meaning of cloud web hosting?
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Aug 28, 2009
who here has experience? Is it phenomenal or awful?
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Dec 30, 2008
hosting company that will allow me to expand as much as I like in terms of RAM, Storage and Bandwidth without having to move from a dedicated server to another dedicated server each time.
I guess the answer is something like Amazons Web Services (AWS). However, I haven't heard great things about them, but I wanted to know what everyone thought of them and any other similar cloud services that is more affordable and reliable.
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Apr 7, 2009
I use shared web hosting service to get my website online. I'm wondering how many people use dedicated servers or virtual private servers instead and pay from $20 to several hundreds of dollars? Will I face any big problem with shared web hosting package which makes me choose dedicated servers?
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Mar 26, 2009
Some information about my forum:
I run a VBulletin forum with - 575,614 post, 14,369 members and 2.9 million page views per month. On average there are 300 - 400 people on the site.
The server right now is a Linux CentOS VPS with 1.1 gigs of memory. The hosting provider keeps telling me that I need a dedicated server.
Question # 1 - In your opinion - do you think its time for a dedicated server?
The server I am looking at has these stats:
E8300
2 GB RAM
250GB HD
cPanel
Management
The price I was given is pretty good. So the offer is going to be hard to pass up.
Question # 2 - Has anyone here used Future Hosting for their dedicated server solution?
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Jul 13, 2005
I am developing a website for a client of mine (the client is a close friend and know's that he is getting a newbie). This site will be larger (project wise) than anything that I have ever done (everything I have done in the past has been FrontPage). We will be using several third party applications that need to run on the server as well as our own custom developed applications. We do not yet know how much access to the server's deeper structures we will need for all of the applications that we want loaded on our server to run. Things we have in mind: oscommerce, mysql, php5, apache, linux, vbulletin, blogger, phpbb, adserver, ect... Would these things run ok on a shared host and would I have full authority to configure them without needing full access to the server? Or will I need access to the entire server (dedicated server) in order to have full customization capabilities? I guess all I am trying to figure out at this point is will shared hosting for a large project limit our abilities to use 3rd party apps, or do most 3rd party application designers build their stuff to work in a shared hosting environment anyway? If we need to get a dedicated server we will, but if we can get away with shared hosting for a while (especially during development when the site will not be generating revenue) it would be nice to avoid the price of a dedicated server. Many thanks for your comments, insight, and expertise! Also, if anyone can sight some common scenarios that may require a dedicated server over a shared hosting plan, that may help me to understand what the limitations of a shared hosting plan vs. a deicated or virtual dedicated server are.
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Jun 13, 2008
I'm new to the VPS scene, so could someone tell me the difference between VPS and say shared hosting or dedicated hosting? Actually I really like to know what a Virtual Private Server actually is.. I know shared hosting is typically a single account on a server with several hundred other accounts which is used primarily for the sole purpose of hosting websites, and I know that dedicated hosting is functionally the same as colo except that you rent the server, instead of having your own purchased server plugged into some network. So what is VPS?
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May 6, 2008
Do website builders generally go with shared hosting or dedicated server? I mean, if they work on several websites would they get a dedicated server instead of shared? From what I understand through reading shared hosting is basically if you only have one website. So one with multiple websites would go with a dedicated server?
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Sep 25, 2009
How long do you wait before moving from shared to VPS or dedicated? Apart from security and speed, what are the benefits of dedicated hosting? This says [url] that shared is better than dedicated because you have to do less..
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Sep 16, 2009
Has anyone set up a cloud before? What OS do you use?
I read Ubuntu Server now comes with cloud capabilities and RHEL has had clustering for a long time. How do you data center gurus set up clouds?
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Apr 16, 2009
Surely, if I'm doing this question, I don't need the cloud, but as all the people are talking about it, I think in it.
We host simple websites, with about 10GB/bandwicht/month as much usage. Actually we have 5 low budget dedicated servers instead to have 1 power server with all in, with that we distribute the possibilities of hardware fails.
We don't have any VPS, I personally prefer host in a physical server, we can put the 5 servers in 5 VPS into one big server, but if HD fails, all goes down.
So, now with cloud, I think it's the same that VPS, hardware could fails as always, and the cloud can complicate the resolution of a problem, so my final question, it's cloud for me? anything I'm missing?
Thanks as always for your replies! Anyway, it's nice to have a new technologie in the table to discuss about it!
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Feb 10, 2009
When creating cloud hosting based-on VPS, I assume each VPS added will need to be on different machines? Which one will have better performance in this case
- 1VPS with 2GB RAM, 1GHz CPU
- 2VPS with 1GB RAM and 512MHz CPU each. 2 VPS is setup on the same server. One runs Apache, one runs mySQL.
Of course, using for the same website.
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Mar 24, 2008
I am looking for good hosting for a site that will be heavy on bandwith.
I want to create a site that streams a lot of videos and music on it.
Does anyone have a similar site and that is happy with their host?
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Aug 6, 2008
Hey guys im starting up an Adult Website and i'm looking for a web hosting company that can offer me hosting at a good price, ddos protected and doesnt have to be in the usa/canada can be off shore...
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Feb 4, 2009
I need inexpensive but good dedicated server. Can anyone recommend something?
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Aug 23, 2009
I want to know what is dedicated hosting? What amount of traffic is needed to think about dedicated hosting? how much does it cost?
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