Hosting In Australia For American Domains
Dec 20, 2008
I've just purchased 6 domain names.
3 x .com
2 x .info
1 x .net
The sites will be viewed mostly by an American audience. I've already decided that the hosting package should be a VPS as this fits my budget.
My question is whether I should host these domains in the States or my location, in Australia? My concerns are:
- If I host in Australia, will the States experience a lag in site loading
- Prices in Australia seem to be cheaper
- If hosted in Australia will it have a negative effect on how the site is ranked on American search engines such as google.com
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Nov 22, 2008
I'm planning to start a website, and have decided which host to use. If I purchase through the UK version of their site, it would cost me 70 per year, however if I were to buy through the US version of their site it would cost $70 a year. A small saving but decent nonetheless.
My question is, what are the problems with doing this? Is it legal? Are there any tax issues?
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Oct 30, 2007
I'm moving to Australia in a few months, and I'm thinking of hosting a few of my sites down there.
What's the best place to buy domains and hosting in Australia? Should I buy it seperate or from the same company?
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Apr 2, 2009
This question gets asked a lot in our Helpdesk and I figured I would post our knowledgebase article here to help anyone else wondering the Pros and Cons of Unlimited Domain Shared Hosting vs. Reseller Hosting. If anyone has anything else to add, I appreciate any feedback on how we can improve our KB article.
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Given the present state of shared hosting, many clients may ask "Why would I need a Reseller account if I can host unlimited Addon and Parked domains within a single shared hosting account?". There is certainly enough Disk Space and Bandwidth provided in many of today's hosting packages, so why bother to purchase a Reseller account?
Many don't realize the drawbacks of hosting large numbers of domains within a single hosting account until they've already packed tens of them onto a single package.
So how do you know whether a Reseller account or Shared Hosting account is right for you? The answer is in how you plan to provide access to others and how "mission-critical" the sites are. You should consider the following factors when deciding on hosting a large number of domains:
1. Who will be managing these sites?
2. How important is site security between sites?
3. Will these domains need dedicated SSLs?
4. How resource intensive will these sites be (RAM, CPU, MySQL)?
In a nutshell, Reseller plans are for those who wish to host websites for other sub-clients and a shared hosting package is for a single individual managing multiple personal domains. We'll go over the 4 points above in greater detail.
1. Who will be managing these site?
If you personally own multiple domains and wish to host them within the same hosting space, you can easily do so with an Addon or Parked domain. An addon domain will allow you to host a new domain within a subdirectory of your hosting space. A parked domain will allow you to have multiple domain names point to the same content. Since addon domains reside within the same user space as your main domain, you can manage all of your domains with a single login. You can see the problem if you want to provide another user with access. Since all accounts are managed with a single set of login credentials, if you give another user access to their addon domain you are also giving them access to your main domain. If you have vital information stored on your main domain and you are hosting another domain as an addon domain for someone else, you cannot provide them access to their hosting without compromising the integrity of your main domain.
When hosting sites as a Reseller, your clients in turn will want access to their account and will want exclusive rights to their disk space and server resources. With a Reseller account, each sub-account you create gets its own username, password, and isolated user space on the server. Individual clients of yours have access to their user space and their user space alone. In addition to the isolation with regards to access concerns, each account also gets their own cPanel access. All of the same great features that you use to manage your sites can also be given to your clients. Next time client Y wants to add an email account, you don't have to do it for them for fear of giving them access to your cPanel, you can simply give them their login details and they can manage their own email accounts.
2. How important is site security between sites?
This is along the same lines as point 1. This is not necessarily related to who you are hosting for, but what content you are hosting. Imagine that you are a webmaster and you are hosting your own personal site-in-a-box community forums (such as PHPBB or vBulliten) on your main domain and a company website for a paying client on an addon domain. It is not uncommon for popular scripts to have security flaws in older versions. Script authors will often update security flaws in later versions of their software. For this reason, it is very important to keep scripts up to date on your site. But let's assume you forget to update your scripts for a couple of months and an unscrupulous individual takes advantage of a well known security hole. Using this exploit, they gain access to your forums and any subdirectories. Since you are hosting another domain as an addon, they now have access to this domain's content as well. A site defacement on this company's site may not bode well for you when they are considering you for web master services in the future.
If these two domains had been separate into two individual users (i.e. two subaccounts created through a Reseller), their content would've been inherently isolated server side by Linux's user management. Sure, your forums still would've been affected by the security hole, but the break-in would've been isolated to your site alone.
Going back to our example, let's say that instead of a corporate website as an addon domain you are hosting an image gallery site for all of your cats. In this case, it may not be a big deal if a compromise in your main domain spreads to your addon domain. After all, they are both owned by you and you're only losing some time and effort to restore these sites from your local backups (which I'm sure you've actively maintained ). But then again, you are losing time and time is money. If these sites had been separated into individual users, again, you'd only have to restore one site's content.
The idea here is isolation. Reseller plans provide you with the peace of mind to know that if one of your users doesn't keep up with their site's content as actively as they should, their actions won't negatively impact the content hosted on other domains. If you and those you host in your addons are diligent webmasters, maybe this point won't have much bearing on your decision. Only you can say for sure.
3. Will these domains need SSLs?
As of this writing, SSL certificates must have a dedicated IP address to be installed. If you are hosting multiple domains on the same shared hosting package, you can still install an SSL (or purchase a dedicated IP address and install one) but you are limited to exactly one SSL on your account. If you are hosting multiple domains on the same package (and consequently the same IP), you must choose which domains gets to have the dedicated SSL.
Sub accounts of Resellers can each be placed onto separate IP addresses and, as a result, can each have their own dedicated SSL installed.
Of course, both shared accounts and Resellers' sub accounts can use the server's shared SSL free of charge. However, some clients prefer to see their domain in the URL bar when they visit https.
4. How resource intensive will these sites be (RAM, CPU, MySQL)?
We've already established that disk space and bandwidth will be no problem. But what about CPU, RAM, and MySQL resources?
It's important to be aware of the resource needs of your website. As administrators, we have to make sure all users "play nice" on the server. We can't have user X eating all of the CPU cycles computing pi to the trillionth decimal place while you are trying to serve web pages to your loyal visitors. We have to monitor the actions of all of our users and in the event someone is stepping beyond the bounds of acceptable resource consumption, we have to take action. In most cases, this entails disabling the abusive script, but in extreme cases we have to suspend the abusive user account to prevent other domains from encountering performance degradation on their sites.
If you are hosting 100 domains as addon domains, all serving nothing but static HTML pages, maybe you will stay off the radar.
But considering most sites are more complicated than static HTML, you may want to be aware of how many sites you host as addons and what content they serve. If you're hosting the latest and greatest Joomla modules, with up to date news feeds, integrated forums modules, polls, blog posts, etc your site can certainly require a degree of CPU to serve your pages. Now imagine you have 5 or 10 of these sites all hosted as addon domains. The resources these sites need to generate their content can quickly add up and before you know it you've got a friendly email from Acenet, Inc. in your inbox wondering why your user is consuming 2 of the 8 CPU cores on the server. That may be an exaggeration, but you get the idea. In the event your resource usage becomes so excessive that we have to suspend your user, now all of your sites are down instead of whichever one may be the direct cause of the spike in CPU, RAM, or MySQL consumption.
If each of these had been separate Reseller accounts, the offending account could've been suspended temporarily while we work through the cause, leaving the rest of your domains live and kicking.
The conclusion here is that you need to be aware of the needs of your sites in a general sense. Hosting unlimited domains within a shared hosting space is certainly a nice feature. For those webmasters who have multiple presences on the web, it's very convenient to be able to manage all of their personal domains from a single control panel. For those entrepreneurs who are hosting multiple domains for other individuals, the features and security associated with a Reseller plan and the inherent isolation of Linux users is a must have.
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Dec 2, 2008
I'm interested in getting a VPS (nothing too much - probably at least 5-10GB space / 30GB bandwidth) for a forum I run based in Australia. My budget is probably around $40/month. BTW I'm after managed.
My main issue is that I would like it to be a decent speed for Australia (specifically Melbourne). Where should a datacenter be located for Australia?
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Jul 2, 2007
I have used VPSland.com before and was very happy with everything except bandwidth speed. If i ping the server, I get around 198 to 220ms response. VPS is hosted in USA, and I live in Auckland, New Zealand. www.vpsland.com
I am planning on starting my own personal business, which is going to be relatively small to start of with... I wanted to purchase a VPS to host my website as well as host few other websites for clients if required. I will be running typo3 content management system with mysql database. I wanted the response time to be better than VPSland.com.
The companies I have explored in NZ are 3 times more expensive than VPSland. I wanted a server which has around 300mb ram or so. Would prefer Windows 2003, if not Linux.
Please recommend me which VPS provider I should go with? I suppose it should be based in Australia or New Zealand as the traffic will be national mostly. or even USA or UK or any other country which provides good response time for NZ visitors and has competitive prices?
My budget is around $20 - 30 US max
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Jun 12, 2008
if there are any data centers in Australia...
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Jul 8, 2008
I was wondering what people in Australia use with regards to Dedicated Server companies. Do you go local in Australia or are overseas companies just as good?
If local what do you guys use? If overseas, where do you get the fastest bandwidth to Australia, etc.
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Nov 16, 2007
I am currently researching into colocation hosting for a 1u rack server. i am looking for a cheapish host that can give me something around 10mbit line and idk how much bandwidth i need yet, but probably something over 300gig. Its to host counter strike source servers.
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Apr 11, 2007
Does anyone have a good lead on any providers who have sub-cable between seattle & aus?
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Apr 25, 2008
i just wrote a nice little page on the best location in the US for a VPS server for my Australian and New Zealand customers,
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Sep 27, 2008
can anyone suggest few hosts whos Datacenter in Australia,Canda,UK ? price is $8-$20 USD
requirement
3-5gb space
15-20gb bandwidth
unlimited addon domains
unlimited mysql domains &
cpanel control panel
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Aug 11, 2008
I have a VPS located in LA, USA.
For over a week now I have had the following network issues:
- browser timing out (for me and visitors to my site)
- ftp connection issues
The server load is low so it's not server related.
Traceroute TO the server appears fine.
Traceroute FROM the server to users IP's appears to have issues over the SingTel/Optus network.
My webhost says it's an issue for SingTel/Optus.
SingTel/Optus Engineer say:
"Our testings point to a problem either within Cogent's network or on a peering link between Cogent and Singtel in LA.
I'd suggest that the owner of the domain (me!) approach his hosting provider and have them escalate to Cogent. We can't escalate to Cogent as we have no peering with them."
So I've been the meat in the sandwich for over a week with no sign of a fix.
My options appear to be to either move the VPS away from the webhost and host it locally (Australia) or to somehow wait for someone to step up and take responsiblity and get this resolved.
My heart says wait as it's not *my* responsibility but it's costing me financially and professionally.
Anyone else experiencing similiar/same issues from the Asia Pacific region to the US?
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I have 25-30 domains, mostly directories and WordPress sites, and I can no longer afford my $300/month dedicated server. Can anyone recommend a good service for < $25/month?
I'd like all my domains to be called "domain.com", not "domain.maindomain.com". I'm also aware, however, of the dangers of going with a shared service that offers "unlimited" domains (and hosts thousands of them on each server).
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Aug 5, 2008
I have around 20 odd domains which I wish to host. Im not sure how much if anything I will make of them so I wish to keep my costs down to an absolute minimum (yes even Godaddy @ $3 a month is to expensive ).
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Sep 10, 2008
No spam etc
cost efficient solution?
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Dec 21, 2007
I have changed .com to .kom to avoid confusing and the no-posting url filter.
Basically, I've been googling like mad, Searching for every scrap of information I can find.. I'm not sure whether there just isn't anything covering it.. Or I don't understand it well enough to put it into practice. So I am here, Hopefully someone will know what the H*ll to do! =)
I'll try and lay this out as easy to read as possible.
THE SETUP:
I run a home server. On said home server I run W.A.M.P to serve my Joomla! powered website.
I own a domain via 1and1.co.uk. I DID have it set up as a 'frame redirect' to my I.P address using their name servers.
HOW THE PROBLEM STARTED:
I have all of the content and most of the configuration down. That I am fine with.
I decided to test out the automated user registration. I find that when it sends an automated E-mail out to a user. Instead of sending the authentication link as MYDOMAIN.kom/Clickhere
it will send MY.IP.ADDRESS/Clickhere
This isn't a great solution. So I googled about looking on how to change it. Having visited the Joomla! forums I am now certain that the settings contained within there are right. The problem lies outwith that.
On the Joomla forums I was told I would need to set up some kind of custom DNS service. Having my Domain pointed at the DNS and letting it forward onto the I.P address. In turn, Solving my I.P E-Mail problem.
So after some more hunting around I came across SimpleDNS.
Right here is were I come to a stop, Pretty much.
According to the 1and1.ko.uk FAQ, In order to have my Domain name point to a Nameserver, I NEED to create a SUB-domain called "ns.Domainname.kom" then in turn point this SUB domain to my I.P Address.
Ok, So I done that.
Problem 1: In the Control Panel at 1and1.co.uk, In the forwarding properties of the SUB-Domain (NS). I am only allowed to put either a full Domain Name OR a "://IPADDRESS"
I cannot place just the IPADDRESS. I am not sure if this is causing any issues.
After doing this, I set up the SimpleDNS like so.
NAME - TYPE - DATA
domainame - NS - DOMAINNAME.COM
domainame - A - IPADDRESS
(I do have NS1, NS2, NS3.. However I chose to leave those out for now as it might confuse matters)
I am at a complete loss here.
I have forwared all the ports I can find that may be needed by SimpleDNS (53, 1053 and 8053)
I have changed odd things around and back again to no avail.
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Aug 17, 2009
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I used GoDaddy, paying around $130 all together at a rate of $5 monthly.
Doing research tonight for a new domain I want to host, I come across "HostGator" which offers Unlimited Domain Hosting. (At around $7 a month)
Does this mean, if I am not mistaken, I could have payed $84 and placed my girlfriend's and my domain on the same hosting server, thus using the same bandwidth and storage space, thus saving a bit of money?
Assuming I am correct up until now, what happens if I get a hosting package that has unlimited storage space, unlimited bandwidth, and unlimited domain hosting? That means the only additional cost I'd be paying for hosting a new site would be a basic $10 per year domain registration cost?
I am quite ambitious and have plans for about 3 new domain projects, and I figured I would have to purchase a new hosting account of $60+ yearly for each one. If I could combine these into one hosting account, it would save a lot of money and grief.
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I would like to find a host for the following scenario....
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Is going reseller the easiest way for me to have these domains not affected by each other (a separate cpanel each)?
Finally, I don't use a lot of resources so are there actually reseller plans out there with lower prices (and lower resources too).
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Oct 10, 2009
As a domainer I have several domainnames I like to add to a hostingaccount.
Many of the domains will have a blog or minisite.
At this moment I have a shared hosting account with unlimited domains.
But for seo reasons it is better not to link the domains/urls to eachother cause they have the same IP.
What can you recommend me to have all the domains on different IP's?
Or is there another way to do this,I heard something about c-class....
If I have to put the domains on different IP's on my shared hosting account I will have to pay $2,50 for an IP per month,this will be quite expensive.
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Jul 22, 2008
I have a little question that I'm sure somebody more knowledgeable can answer. I had a hosting account with GoDaddy that just hosted my web site only. I had a few clients need hosting at the same time so I looked into upgrading my account to one that would host multiple domains. (this is my first time with multiple clients, can you tell?) I thought perfect! I can host all of my clients accounts from this one hosting account. I thought there would be multiple account interfaces to support this.
So when I get in there, it lets me add one of the domains I was working on and then I went to upload the files and apparently I had to upload the file to a directory off of my site. So newsite.com points to mysite.com/newsite.
I uploaded it just to test it out and when you go to newsite.com it shows in the address bar as newsite.com, not mysite.com/newsite, even though that is the directory path. I'm sure there's a name for this but I have no idea what it is so I wanted to explain my issue clearly.
So, I'm wondering, is this kosher? Is this bad to do or do a lot of people do this and will it affect my site? From what I've gathered so far, people only do this when they have multiple domains pointing to the same site, or am I wrong?
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I'm about to the point where I am ready to host my website. I already have a domain but no hosting plan. In the future I may want to have several different websites each with their own unique domain. I was wondering if I choose a hosting plan for one site, can I use the unused web space for additional domains/websites?
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