Affordable Colocation
Oct 9, 2009
No matter how hard you look for a colo datacenter, they all seem to push hard on offering fancy services and causing a big impression. There's nothing wrong with that, but as a result, costs typically go up beyond those of dedicated servers.
Would this work for offering affordable colo and still make a profit:
- no customer visits, all equipment shipped, plugged in, and turned on: requires no fancy reception area, less security measures, no parking space, no glossy facilities.
- limit power requirements or charge per watt consumed: avoids charging customers by max available power and charge for the amount actually used.
If that's a possibility, there just might be a market out there for cheap colo for the masses.
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May 12, 2009
Does anyone know of a firm that offered PCI certification for a low price (something in the ballpark of $200-300)? I have Google'd it and turned up companies charging $1500-5000 per year, which is retarded.
I have already run a PCI compliance scan from Comodo and came back clean, so I would like to get the certification done
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Oct 23, 2007
My friend recommend me Juniper firewall which his company uses to protect over 10 servers and to detect & drop DDOS attack. The problem is he do not know the product series.
Since I am here, I wanted to ask as well, has anyone uses Juniper firewall.
I was told they are the cheapest or at least affordable hardware firewall in the market.
I am in need to protect 7 machines.
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Sep 4, 2009
I am in need to get a UPS for my 20 amp circuit in one of my datacenters. For whatever reason at least once a month the power will go down for a few seconds and then causing FSCK on my servers.
I need an affordable solution that will give me a few minutes of power so that at least the servers don't crash. E-mail notification would be nice too but not required.
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Apr 24, 2009
Just need about 3 near SF.
The closer the better.
Budget ~100/server
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May 18, 2008
Every webhost I see that offers dedicated hosting always sticks with the same price range: $60 - $90 for crap Celerons/P4s, $160 - $220 for Xeons, and $250+ for better servers. Is there a reliable host that offers much lower prices and has a reliable network? I am currently using The Planet and for years have been paying $260 with tech support and heck that is extra money that could be in my pocket with a cheaper service.
My current Dual Xeon 2.4ghz is overkill since the CPU load is never high and pushes all 12 of my sites with ease since they are all optimized and coded to never cause large loads.
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Oct 1, 2007
I've been reading a lot of positive VPS provider reviews but when I checked out most of them they are mostly linux providers only.
Is there any windows VPS provider that anyone can recommend based on affordability, reliability and their support?
I know there are a lot of VPS offers on the ad section but I do not want to be deciding just because they have good offers. I want to base my decision on more factors not just price.
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Jun 30, 2008
i've got a server that averages 3-4 TB a month. it is starting to max out the limits on the servers capacity and i want to setup another server on a different network that can help load balance, and if one of the servers are down for any reason the other server would take on all the load while the other server is down.
what is the best solution for this?
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Oct 21, 2009
Prospective web hosting clients have to understand that there's a clear difference between a cheap hosting service and an affordable one.
For one, an afordable service has to do with the budget of the client, meaning the cient has a an amount he will like to spend on a web host account while a cheap web hosting service has to do with the price of the product in relation with the services offered. For example a shared host that you get for $10 will definitey have more features than a shared that cost $3.99.
You have to know what you want before taking an action that you may regret later.
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Jun 26, 2007
any affordable web hosting for a proxy website?
what i mean affordable is as cheap as possible, and this is a proxy site, not a proxy list.
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Oct 2, 2008
I'm looking for an affordable (a.k.a. fairly cheap) stable dedi that allows IRC. It will mainly be used to host a few websites, but it needs to be IRC allowed as well (the irc portion will be very small). Does anyone know any good hosts? Most of the cheaper hosts I've looked into don't allow IRC at all .
- IRC allowed
- US preferably; not necessary
- Managed or un-managed, doesn't matter
- Decent price
- Need somewhere around 20-35 IPs
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Jan 4, 2007
does anyone have experience setting up big storage system for photo-sharing/videos or similar website?
This for example is not affordable for many - aws.amazon.com/s3
Im talking about 20 - 40TB system.
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May 26, 2009
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Oct 4, 2009
Is there a "premium" for colocation space in cabinets which are taller than 42U? I'm putting some cabinets into a datacenter cage, which I will lease to 3rd parties as colocation cabinets, and there is plenty of height below the ceiling (about 290 cm). I could put in 42U cabinets, but I could go taller, up to about 48U.
The cabinets will have about 10 kW delivered to them (8 kW usable per cabinet), but the UPS is sized for an average load of 5 kW per cabinet. Cabinet depth is 1200 mm. There will be cable tray 10 cm above the cabinet.
If you were going to colo 5 kW of equipment (average) per cabinet, would 48U cabinets have value to you over 42U high cabinets?
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Jan 20, 2009
I found a couple of phrases mentioning them here on WHT, both praising and negative. Can't make up my mind.
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Aug 23, 2009
I'm soon going to purchasing a rack server from Dell, and have been looking into the options of basing it within the UK, as it seems best.
I've looked into the Rapid switch data centre in Berkshire, aswell as Blue square in Maidenhead.
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Jun 13, 2009
I'm with is looking to colo 2 x 1RU servers in the US, so looking for suitable colo facilities.
We definitely want to buy, own and manage the servers ourselves, so we're after colo & bandwidth, not server rental.
As we're new to colo in the US, any advice or recommendations would be greatly appreciated.
Servers will be 2 x quad core CPU, 8GB RAM, 2 x SAS HDDs, 1 x PSU, so we'll obviously need a facility able to provide the required power at a reasonable cost.
We'll need 4 network points, 2 for each server (1 Internet, 1 LOM).
Bandwidth wise, we're expecting to start with low demand, but grow steadily over the next two to three years.
Ideally we're after flat rate bandwidth in the order of 512Kbps - 2 Mbps, aggregated across the network points, with no excess usage charges.
95th percentile billing is also an option, but less preferred - we'd much rather know we have a fixed monthly OpEx, instead of the unpleasant surprise of a large excess bandwidth bill!
We're happy to look at other bandwidth options, so long as they provide a fixed monthly cost, and let us scale at a reasonable price, as we need it.
We'll like a /28 of IP space - 8-10 usable, but may be able to get away with a /29 if it's the make or break decision.
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Sep 17, 2009
I am looking to colo a 1U server in a DC in North Carolina. I would need a 10Mbit line un-metered or a metered 100mbit.
I could negotiate on the bandwidth if its not possible in NC .
I have been researching for a while and the DCs here are very very expensive so far...
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Oct 9, 2009
I've recently acquired a 1U rack mount server from eBay. I believe it kicks some butt...and now I am thinking about looking for a colocation provider to host it for me.
It's for my own websites, not web hosting or storage. I don't need any sophisticated control panel, as I've pretty much made my own. I only need enough IP addresses to have my own name servers and one for all of my websites (I don't need each site to have a unique IP). I don't need any management help as I can manage my own servers. A simple data center control panel with the ability to hard reboot my server would be nice.
However, if the provider charges anything above $70-$80, I can just rent a dedicated server for around the same price. I know the dedicated server would not have the same features and hardware as my server, but if I'm providing the server, why should I be charged the same amount as if they were providing me with a server?
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Apr 22, 2008
I'm trying to figure out my whole DNS situation now that I switched over to colocation. I have 2 servers, one hosts multiple sites and the other is just a backup.
I'm not sure what to do with DNS hosting. I could either host my DNS on both the servers (ns1,ns2 main server ns3,ns4 backup server). Does this mean if the main server goes down (ns1,ns2) it'll start using ns2,ns3? If so, can I just have ns2,ns3 point to my backup server IPs and traffic will just resume on the backup of the main server goes down?
If I go with a service like DNSMadeEasy.com, can I just point my main domain's name servers to ns1.dnsmadeeasy.com, ns2, ns3, etc.. and then point all my other domain's name servers back to my main domain OR would I have to point all my individual domains to dnsmadeeasy's name servers?
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Jan 8, 2008
I have several servers on datacenters.
I was wondering, I always did, that is would be so much nicer to own the hardware. I looked for colocation prices in the past but the prices where allot higher then to rent from a datacenter.
Is this really so?
Is best to buy the hardware and send it to a colocation service or to rent a specific harware.
The colocation prices are normally per Mbit, that means there is not montly GB limits, you can go as fast a the switch allows?
How can you test if you are really getting the speed, any guarantee.
Also what happens if a hard disk fails? Do you have to buy one on overnight and send it to the datacenter? They will charge you for installation i suppose.
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Jul 1, 2008
We are looking for reviews of colocation companies offering quarter racks at BlueSquare, or another data centre in the south of England. We are based in Dorset and as far as we can tell the nearest data centres are in Bournemouth (not open yet), Southampton (don't know too much about those) and Maidenhead (BlueSquare, where we currently colocate a couple of 1U servers).
Companies we have been considering are connexions4london, a1isp and netrino but we are a bit short on information about their reputations. Reliability is the single most important thing to us, we are not necessarily looking for the cheapest, but for somebody with a good history of service level.
Can anybody tell us about their experiences with any of these companies? I heard about some trouble with Netrino last year but nothing recent, and also a that a1isp use netrino, can anybody confirm or deny that? We have also spoken extensively with connexions4london but we would have to sign up for at least a year - which we would be happy to do if we knew their service was great.
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Jan 29, 2007
I have a few questions which I'd like answered if possible.
Firstly, I understand 1U is the space in the rank etc etc -- my question is, does one server usually fill up one 1U?
What is meant by premium bandwidth? is that a type of bandwidth charge? is there any other types?
What is meant by 5mbps?
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Jun 7, 2008
could anyone explain to me what colocation is?
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Jul 14, 2007
with a decent article as to what colocation is? I have been looking and havn't been able to determine it. I'm trying to do some research as to why my web host is being .... difficult.
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Oct 24, 2007
I've been noticing always that colocation seems to be much more expensive then with leased dedicated servers, especially when it comes to the A). connection size and B). transfer bandwidth given to you. So has anyone seen good colocation pricing (anywhere in the US or Canada) that has these specs? Leased dedicated servers are at these low of prices, so why not colo?
1U Server around $100 to $150 /mo: 1000-2500 GB (or unmetered) Bandwidth Transfer each month
10Mbps or 100Mbps connection (not 1Mbps).
Anyone seen any $500 to $1500 /mo. for a full cabinet with these specs:
Full Cabinet / Rack (20 Amps or 40 Amps): Unmetered Bandwidth Transfer each month
10Mbps or 100Mbps connection (not 1Mbps).
When dedicated server places like softlayer say that your server is on 10Mbps or 100Mbps, does this mean it is 10Mbps shared among many servers or is it dedicated with your server? Many colocation facilities quote prices with 1Mbps dedicated for the prices I mention above.
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Jul 24, 2007
I've been using dedicated servers for past 2 years.
I'm a Usenet reseller moving to setting up Usenet Provider.
For Usenet peering with two residents in AMS-IX, I probably require a cross-connect, require at least 4u space with at least 50Mbit. All I can find is companies like Ohtele.com and true.nl who have a "presence" there with IP transit, what exactly does that mean? If I wanted a cross-connect to an AMS-IX resident, my server(s) must also be in that datacenter, correct?
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Nov 6, 2007
Lately I hv found many reference on colocation. What is meant by that?
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Feb 22, 2007
A friend of mine gave me a brand new machine he got from work. Its a medium sized desktop case, p4 2.8ghz, 1.5GB of ram, and 2x 40GB IDE Hardrives. Its not anything special, the ram is DDR and the proccessor is the old socket 478.
I am thinking about co-locating this machine. My home computer has much better parts then it so it is useless to keep at home. I already have a laptop as well as my PC so I don't need a second computer at my home either.
I have looked at some co-location prices, sent out a few emails and it looks more expensive then getting a dedicated server from the company. I thought co-location was cheaper then a dedicated server, but it seems like I am finding different.
This server is going to be used to host a few websites of mine, as well as be used to host a gameserver or two. I don't have a problem being a system administrator, I am currently managing my VPS as well as my friends dedicated server.
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May 3, 2007
I am hosting a commercial website that is consuming about 1.5Mbp/s of bandwidth on a monthly basis (95th. %). The site consists of (6) 1U Dell servers. I am currently seeking a colo provider in the downtown NYC area where I can rent a 1/4 rack. I am looking for a very reputable provider, but don't necessarily need the "gold standard" in colo providers as cost is definitely a factor.
My questions are as follows:
1. What is the general range of pricing that I should expect for a 1/4 rack at say 2Mbp/s of bandwidth? I have been getting quotes from around $500 to $1000, but wansn't sure exactly how to evaluate them.
2. Do I need to purchase a rack-mount keyboard/monitor drawer, or does the colo facility usually provide a cart or similar?
3. Is is better in the long run for me to provide my own firewall/vpn solution or is this something that the colo facility would typically provide for me?
4. With regard to DNS, is this normally a colo provided service or am I better off using a 3rd. party service. If the latter, any recommendations?
5. Any recommendations for quality colo providers in the downtown NYC area?
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Mar 16, 2007
I currently have Dedicated servers here and there with different companies but one of my sites is out growing its current setup and is growing at a rapid rate so its going to get expensive to run if i just have multiple dedicated servers so I have started to look into colocation.
The down side to colocation for me or from what I have seen is Limited Support compared to dedicated support.
However I do pay a company that will help me with the upkeep of my servers and will advise me on what I need so really now im looking at prices.
To start with I will be looking to host:
2X
Dell PowerEdge 1850 1u
2x Xeon 3.4hz 1m cache
2gb Ram (2x 1gb dimms)
2x 146gb U320 hot swap drives
Raid
CD Drive
Floppy Drive
2x Gigabit Ethernet
**Anyone have a price on a server same spec as above?**
Now I would prefer to find someone who provides the following but if not then could point me in the right direction to purchase:
(Hardware must be able to handle atleast 8 servers of the above spec as I see me expanding to this within 6 months to 1 year)
Switch
KVM
Remote Reboot
Firewall
**Anyone have a price on the hardware above? must handle atleast 8 servers**
Bandwidth - 100mbit
I would say I would like around 2,000gb bandwidth per server
So to start with that would be approx 4,000gb as I would be hosting 2 servers.
Support:
I would like to try and find a host that offers a fair amount of hardware support
I think for the moment thats about all im looking for advice / prices on.
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