What Virtuozzo Means By "isolated"
Nov 21, 2007
I'm using a brand new Virtuozzo VPS, with (512mb) SLM memory managment, that standing to some "experts" would be a great way to manage memory, a great virtualization solution, and such.
This VE, supposedly, is hosted on excellent hardware (sas-scsi raid i/o, etc), so should have great performances, especially considering i don't run any control panel, i just run apache2+mysql5 (no email system or else), and i manage everything by myself (and i'm really experienced).
I'm experiencing on the contrary much worse performances than my previous 256mb XEN vps.
Sometimes you hear (virtuozzo fanboys i guess) about XEN slowness problems instead, because xen - supposedly - hasn't got a proper disk/io scheduler BUT provides individual custom swap space, so a customer could create a 5GB swap space and disrupt host machine performances by clogging the VPS, swapping a lot, causing insane i/o wait, etc... I've read a lot of topics about this "debate" in the past.
So you would expekt Virtuozzo having a wonderful cpu and disk i/o scheduler, instead.
You can read on Virtuozzo Website the following Claim : "Complete Isolation - VEs are secure and have full functional, fault and performance isolation."
On the contrary i'm having a lot of issues, supposedly coming from "bad neighbours", like idiots not being able to handle security of their vps, spammers, and so on, on my new virtuozzo VE ...
Everytime someone crashes his own VE on the same host machine, like causing a 100.0 load, even my VE goes offline with 400% i/o wait ...
My hosting provider (which i won't name at all, anyway) is doing an excellent job trying to minimize my inconveniences, really: but - in general - i'm beginning to wonder wheter this insane behaviour is "common" for a virtuozzo solution.
In short, I'm wondering - and i'd like an expert opinion on this - HOW THE HECK could this be possible ??
Isn't Virtuozzo supposed to have a I/O and CPU scheduler ? How in the earth can a single abuser loading insanely his VE affect all the other customers VEs ?
Can a host-server running Virtuozzo, be monopolized (100%cpu and insane i/o wait) by a single abusing VE ?
If this is true, i really don't understand where Virtuozzo advantage would be. Neither i understand the "complete performance isolation" claim by SwSoft.
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May 27, 2009
OK here is the background of the problem.
I wanted to host customers for one of my scripts on subdomains.
So customer A will be on [url]
customer B will be on [url], and so on and so forth.....
As far as my knowledge goes, cPanel allows me to create an addon domain with it's own FTP account.
But I need to create subdomains, each with their own FTP account.
The subdomains should be isolated from each other, meaning customerA should not be able to access customerB's files (e.g. via PHP/perl script).
I have a feeling that this is possible with some hacks/workarounds.
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Voice communication isn't an option.
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Error: Python directory not found in /vz/pkgenv/rpm46x64
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I got a Virtuozzo VPS couple a days ago and I am having some problems with it. I can't get a hold of the host because he/she is "migrating" company website at the moment.
VPS OS - Ubuntu 8.04 32-bit
(Initially was 64-bit but I can't even get SSH to work. The host reloaded with 32-bit.)
Initially I was getting some permission problem on /dev/null for regular users. I fixed that with following and stick it in /etc/rc.local
chmod go+rw /dev/null
Now I can't get screen to work. It said something about "No More PTYs.".
$ ls -l /dev/tty*
crw-rw-rw- 1 root tty 5, 0 2009-04-14 14:55 /dev/tty
crw-rw-rw- 1 root tty 4, 0 2009-04-14 14:55 /dev/tty0
crw-rw-rw- 1 root tty 4, 1 2009-04-14 14:55 /dev/tty1
crw-rw-rw- 1 root tty 4, 2 2009-04-14 14:55 /dev/tty2
crw-rw-rw- 1 root tty 4, 3 2009-04-14 14:55 /dev/tty3
crw-rw-rw- 1 root tty 4, 4 2009-04-14 14:55 /dev/tty4
crw-rw-rw- 1 root tty 4, 5 2009-04-14 14:55 /dev/tty5
crw-rw-rw- 1 root tty 4, 6 2009-04-14 14:55 /dev/tty6
crw-rw-rw- 1 root tty 4, 7 2009-04-14 14:55 /dev/tty7
crw-rw-rw- 1 root tty 4, 8 2009-04-14 14:55 /dev/tty8
crw-rw-rw- 1 root tty 4, 9 2009-04-14 14:55 /dev/tty9
(I have "chmod go+rw /dev/tty*" in /etc/rc.local too.)
What can I do or what can I have the host do? I rely heavily on screen for all admin works and I need it to be working. Thanks for your thoughts!
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We have a client on a VPS (Virtuozzo) that is failing PCI Compliance through McAfee as the port for the "power panel" in Viruozzo uses week SSL encryption.
Since we can't block the port (as users need to be able to access it) does anyone know how we can possibly upgrade that or change things so that it will pass compliance?
All other ports on the server are fine, but the port 4643 keeps failing under the ScanAlert scans:
Low Strength Ciphers (< 56-bit key)
SSLv2
EXP-RC2-CBC-MD5 Kx=RSA(512) Au=RSA Enc=RC2(40) Mac=MD5 export
EXP-RC4-MD5 Kx=RSA(512) Au=RSA Enc=RC4(40) Mac=MD5 export
SSLv3
EXP-EDH-RSA-DES-CBC-SHA Kx=DH(512) Au=RSA Enc=DES(40) Mac=SHA1 export
EXP-DES-CBC-SHA Kx=RSA(512) Au=RSA Enc=DES(40) Mac=SHA1 export
EXP-RC2-CBC-MD5 Kx=RSA(512) Au=RSA Enc=RC2(40) Mac=MD5 export
EXP-RC4-MD5 Kx=RSA(512) Au=RSA Enc=RC4(40) Mac=MD5 export
TLSv1
EXP-EDH-RSA-DES-CBC-SHA Kx=DH(512) Au=RSA Enc=DES(40) Mac=SHA1 export
EXP-DES-CBC-SHA Kx=RSA(512) Au=RSA Enc=DES(40) Mac=SHA1 export
EXP-RC2-CBC-MD5 Kx=RSA(512) Au=RSA Enc=RC2(40) Mac=MD5 export
EXP-RC4-MD5 Kx=RSA(512) Au=RSA Enc=RC4(40) Mac=MD5 export
Medium Strength Ciphers (>= 56-bit and < 112-bit key)
SSLv2
DES-CBC-MD5 Kx=RSA Au=RSA Enc=DES(56) Mac=MD5
RC4-64-MD5 Kx=RSA Au=RSA Enc=RC4(64) Mac=MD5
SSLv3
EDH-RSA-DES-CBC-SHA Kx=DH Au=RSA Enc=DES(56) Mac=SHA1
DES-CBC-SHA Kx=RSA Au=RSA Enc=DES(56) Mac=SHA1
TLSv1
EDH-RSA-DES-CBC-SHA Kx=DH Au=RSA Enc=DES(56) Mac=SHA1
DES-CBC-SHA Kx=RSA Au=RSA Enc=DES(56) Mac=SHA1
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