VPN (openVPN) - Will All Network Traffic Go Through The VPN
Sep 2, 2007
I have a customer who wants to have *all* their computer internet activity routed through a server in our datacenter.
They want MSN, email, ftp, browser, ping from the command line, and even DNS lookups that initiate from any software running on the computer...
... they want everything to be routed through the datacenter server.
None of it should go through the ISP. Not even DNS lookups.
I'm thinking that a VPN setup is the way to do this. (ie: Run openVPN on the server and use openVPN client on the remote computers.)
So the idea is that as long as they are connected to the VPN server in our datacenter, which creates an encrypted "tunnel", then all traffic will be routed through the datacenter VPN server. The ISP will not be able to see anything at all, except the connection to the VPN server.
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Nov 12, 2008
I have spent the last few days setting up a low-end VPS server as a VPN host, using OpenVPN on CentOS 5.
I've got everything set up, but one last (and most critical) component is still not working correctly.
Basically what I need, is that once users are on the VPN, they should be able to browse the internet through the VPN under that server's IP address rather than their own dynamic address. I was told that this VPN set up was the way to do it. However, right now when I connect into my VPN I can browse that specific server, but cannot access any other websites at all.
If it would help to see my config files, please let me know and I'll post.
I'm really itching to have this up and running,
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Dec 13, 2007
I have 4 sub domains on qisoftware.com and most have network traffic between 30-34%. Unresolved traffic about 12-14%. Is the network traffic statistic high? What would be considered normal?
A proxy server can mask IP address, right? Does a proxy server show up as network traffic in site statistics reports?
Okay, maybe that's enough questions for right now. I have been researching the internet for terms but I am not finding what would be considered normal.
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Jul 1, 2009
I have a windows 2003 vps and I need way monitor how much traffic I make per month. I believe I'm getting close to my quota and I need to measure it.
I've seen some nice free programs that claim to work on windows 2003 server but the fact is they don't use a service so they only work while the GUI program runs, which is obviously silly for a server!
What do you guys use for this? I mean other then web traffic tools since most of my traffic is not HTTP!
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Jun 25, 2009
I want to count the traffic for every IP passed through squid proxy server.
Is it possible to record the traffic numbers for every IP in external .txt file
It would be better if it can write outgoing and ingoing traffic.
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Nov 15, 2007
What traffic monitor would everyone recommend for sites that have as many as 5,000 to 10,000 hits an hour?
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Dec 27, 2007
I have installed OpenVPN on my VPS and I don't know how can i login on that and create client and configuration.
Support from Datacenter have installed on my VPS.
this is my details:
OpenVPN 2.0 x86_64-unknown-linux [SSL] [LZO] [EPOLL] built on Dec 27 2007
Developed by James Yonan
Copyright (C) 2002-2005 OpenVPN Solutions LLC <info@openvpn.net> ,
How can i login on OpenVPN? i'm very beginner.
Can you Please tell me , how can i access to OpenVPN and Create Account?
I have Cpanel/WHM on my VPS.
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Nov 5, 2008
need some one to install OpenVPN ....
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Jul 15, 2008
i try running on centos 5.2 : yum install -y openvpn
-bash-3.1# yum install -y openvpn
Loading "installonlyn" plugin
Setting up Install Process
Setting up repositories
Reading repository metadata in from local files
Parsing package install arguments
Nothing to do
i want install openvpn by yum
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Sep 5, 2008
Currently trying to get OpenVPN to work on my CentOS VPS, however not getting very far with it. I have followed the guide here: [url]
No problems with the guide, everything worked well! However when i goto start the openVPN service it fails with the following output in the log:
Sep 4 18:01:07 alpha openvpn[3137]: OpenVPN 2.0.9 i386-redhat-linux [SSL] [LZO] [EPOLL] built on Sep 4 2008
Sep 4 18:01:07 alpha openvpn[3137]: Diffie-Hellman initialized with 1024 bit key
Sep 4 18:01:07 alpha openvpn[3137]: TLS-Auth MTU parms [ L:1574 D:138 EF:38 EB:0 ET:0 EL:0 ]
Sep 4 18:01:07 alpha openvpn[3137]: Note: Cannot open TUN/TAP dev /dev/net/tun: No such file or directory (errno=2)
Sep 4 18:01:07 alpha openvpn[3137]: Note: Attempting fallback to kernel 2.2 TUN/TAP interface
Sep 4 18:01:07 alpha openvpn[3137]: Cannot allocate TUN/TAP dev dynamically
Sep 4 18:01:07 alpha openvpn[3137]: Exiting
I then heard that i need to check the tun adapter, so ran the command "openvpn --dev tun0" which gave this output:
Thu Sep 4 18:24:57 2008 OpenVPN 2.0.9 i386-redhat-linux [SSL] [LZO] [EPOLL] built on Sep 4 2008
Thu Sep 4 18:24:57 2008 IMPORTANT: OpenVPN's default port number is now 1194, based on an official port number assignment by IANA. OpenVPN 2.0-beta16 and earlier used 5000 as the default port.
Thu Sep 4 18:24:57 2008 ******* WARNING *******: all encryption and authentication features disabled -- all data will be tunnelled as cleartext
Thu Sep 4 18:24:57 2008 Note: Cannot open TUN/TAP dev /dev/net/tun: Permission denied (errno=13)
Thu Sep 4 18:24:57 2008 Note: Attempting fallback to kernel 2.2 TUN/TAP interface
Thu Sep 4 18:24:57 2008 Cannot open TUN/TAP dev /dev/tun0: No such file or directory (errno=2)
Thu Sep 4 18:24:57 2008 Exiting
===============================================================
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Feb 5, 2008
Here's what I'm trying to do:
Use OpenVPN running on a virtual server (Debian) to allow clients to access the Web. I am purchasing additional IP addresses from the host and want to assign one per client.
I'm pretty sure that OpenVPN will do this based upon what sites like AnonymousChannel and FindNot do.
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Jul 14, 2008
how come I can't route all traffic through openvpn.
1. I was able to ping my client and server ip no problem. So the tunnel connection is fine.
The problem is i can't route internet traffic through openvpn.
I was able to ping from tun0 interface after i add below command
iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -s 10.8.0.0/24 -o eth0 -j MASQUERADE
root@host188 [/etc/openvpn/config]# ping -I tun0 4.2.2.2
PING 4.2.2.2 (4.2.2.2) from 10.8.0.1 tun0: 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from 4.2.2.2: icmp_seq=1 ttl=55 time=8.94 ms
64 bytes from 4.2.2.2: icmp_seq=2 ttl=55 time=8.65 ms
64 bytes from 4.2.2.2: icmp_seq=3 ttl=55 time=8.90 ms
However, my client can't ping 4.2.2.2 from vpn tunnel and I use tcpdump I saw the traffic coming.
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May 2, 2007
I am planning to install a VPN software, probably OpenVPN over my VPS at RackForce. However, I am not much a VPN professional so that I would need some tutorials on it.
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Apr 7, 2008
Someone knows how I can limit the bandwidth every user gets? E.g. user1 gets 1mbit, user2 3mbit etc.
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Mar 25, 2008
If I wanted to install OpenVPN to create a personal VPN (low bandwith/CPU) what kind of minimum specs should I be looking into?
I contacted Panix.com to enquiry about their $10/month shell account I asked them about getting OpenVPN installed and they replied something like they do not allow it in the shell because it needs a server with a higher spec, which is odd to me.
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Jul 15, 2008
Can anyone who is a security expert recommend the most secure option for choosing what type of "cipher" to use with our OpenVPN setup?
(I bolded the one I think might be best? Let me know what you think. We are currently using "BF-CBC", but I want to be sure it's not breakable...) ...
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May 12, 2008
we installed openvz on openvz(hypervm)
but serveral port are closed
for example port : 11033
11055
11171
11011
11022
11044
22277
how may open this port?
i`m manager full server( full root)
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Nov 20, 2007
In the /var/log/messages snippet posted below, I see this (see below snippet)
Is this bad? Are the highlighted parts bad? Do they show an incorrect or inefficient configuration? I tried to find out what it means, but google isn't being too helpful in this instance.
(The VPN is used only as an "internet gateway" for about 5 users who need to browse the internet from within a foreign country.)
Here is the logfile snippet from /var/log/messages. (I changed he vpn username and client IP for privacy.)
Quote:
Nov 20 09:28:07 vpn openvpn[13712]: MULTI: multi_create_instance called
Nov 20 09:28:07 vpn openvpn[13712]: Re-using SSL/TLS context
Nov 20 09:28:07 vpn openvpn[13712]: LZO compression initialized
Nov 20 09:28:07 vpn openvpn[13712]: Control Channel MTU parms [ L:1560 D:140 EF:40 EB:0 ET:0 EL:0 ]
Nov 20 09:28:07 vpn openvpn[13712]: Data Channel MTU parms [ L:1560 D:1450 EF:60 EB:135 ET:0 EL:0 AF:3/1 ]
Nov 20 09:28:07 vpn openvpn[13712]: Local Options hash (VER=V4): 'b695cb4a'
Nov 20 09:28:07 vpn openvpn[13712]: Expected Remote Options hash (VER=V4): 'bc07730e'
Nov 20 09:28:07 vpn openvpn[13712]: TCP connection established with 91.186.11.226:52093
Nov 20 09:28:07 vpn openvpn[13712]: TCPv4_SERVER link local: [undef]
Nov 20 09:28:07 vpn openvpn[13712]: TCPv4_SERVER link remote: 91.186.11.226:52093
Nov 20 09:28:07 vpn openvpn[13712]: user1/1.1.1.1:3861 MULTI: packet dropped due to output saturation (multi_process_incoming_tun)
Nov 20 09:28:18 vpn last message repeated 31 times
Nov 20 09:28:21 vpn openvpn[13712]: 91.186.11.226:52093 Connection reset, restarting [-1]
Nov 20 09:28:21 vpn openvpn[13712]: 91.186.11.226:52093 SIGUSR1[soft,connection-reset] received, client-instance restarting
Nov 20 09:28:21 vpn openvpn[13712]: TCP/UDP: Closing socket
Nov 20 09:28:26 vpn openvpn[13712]: user1/1.1.1.1:3861 MULTI: packet dropped due to output saturation (multi_process_incoming_tun)
Nov 20 09:28:57 vpn last message repeated 38 times
Nov 20 09:29:03 vpn last message repeated 9 times
Nov 20 09:29:07 vpn openvpn[13712]: MULTI: multi_create_instance called
Nov 20 09:29:07 vpn openvpn[13712]: Re-using SSL/TLS context
Nov 20 09:29:07 vpn openvpn[13712]: LZO compression initialized
Nov 20 09:29:07 vpn openvpn[13712]: Control Channel MTU parms [ L:1560 D:140 EF:40 EB:0 ET:0 EL:0 ]
Nov 20 09:29:07 vpn openvpn[13712]: Data Channel MTU parms [ L:1560 D:1450 EF:60 EB:135 ET:0 EL:0 AF:3/1 ]
Nov 20 09:29:07 vpn openvpn[13712]: Local Options hash (VER=V4): 'b695cb4a'
Nov 20 09:29:07 vpn openvpn[13712]: Expected Remote Options hash (VER=V4): 'bc07730e'
Nov 20 09:29:07 vpn openvpn[13712]: TCP connection established with 91.186.11.226:52687
Nov 20 09:29:07 vpn openvpn[13712]: TCPv4_SERVER link local: [undef]
Nov 20 09:29:07 vpn openvpn[13712]: TCPv4_SERVER link remote: 91.186.11.226:52687
Nov 20 09:29:08 vpn openvpn[13712]: user1/1.1.1.1:3861 MULTI: packet dropped due to output saturation (multi_process_incoming_tun)
Nov 20 09:29:21 vpn last message repeated 16 times
Nov 20 09:29:21 vpn openvpn[13712]: 91.186.11.226:52687 Connection reset, restarting [-1]
Nov 20 09:29:21 vpn openvpn[13712]: 91.186.11.226:52687 SIGUSR1[soft,connection-reset] received, client-instance restarting
Nov 20 09:29:21 vpn openvpn[13712]: TCP/UDP: Closing socket
Nov 20 09:29:21 vpn openvpn[13712]: user1/1.1.1.1:3861 MULTI: packet dropped due to output saturation (multi_process_incoming_tun)
Nov 20 09:29:34 vpn last message repeated 144 times
Nov 20 09:30:06 vpn openvpn[13712]: MULTI: multi_create_instance called
Nov 20 09:30:06 vpn openvpn[13712]: Re-using SSL/TLS context
Nov 20 09:30:06 vpn openvpn[13712]: LZO compression initialized
Nov 20 09:30:06 vpn openvpn[13712]: Control Channel MTU parms [ L:1560 D:140 EF:40 EB:0 ET:0 EL:0 ]
Nov 20 09:30:06 vpn openvpn[13712]: Data Channel MTU parms [ L:1560 D:1450 EF:60 EB:135 ET:0 EL:0 AF:3/1 ]
Nov 20 09:30:06 vpn openvpn[13712]: Local Options hash (VER=V4): 'b695cb4a'
Nov 20 09:30:06 vpn openvpn[13712]: Expected Remote Options hash (VER=V4): 'bc07730e'
Nov 20 09:30:06 vpn openvpn[13712]: TCP connection established with 91.186.11.226:53285
Nov 20 09:30:06 vpn openvpn[13712]: TCPv4_SERVER link local: [undef]
Nov 20 09:30:06 vpn openvpn[13712]: TCPv4_SERVER link remote: 91.186.11.226:53285
Nov 20 09:30:21 vpn openvpn[13712]: 91.186.11.226:53285 Connection reset, restarting [-1]
Nov 20 09:30:21 vpn openvpn[13712]: 91.186.11.226:53285 SIGUSR1[soft,connection-reset] received, client-instance restarting
Nov 20 09:30:21 vpn openvpn[13712]: TCP/UDP: Closing socket
It goes on like this, with this pattern repeating every 20 seconds or so. Is this normal?
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Dec 4, 2007
Recently i have bought an Centos 5 vpsserver. I have installed openvpn with this code in Putty: # yum install openvpn.
Now i want to copy easy-rsa to /etc/openvpn.
I used this code:
# cp -R /usr/share/openvpn/easy-rsa /etc/openvpn
Unfortunuatly this error appears:
cp: missing destination file operand after '/usr/share/openvpn/easy-rsa'
Does anyone know the solution for this problem?
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Jul 13, 2009
I have installed openvpn in my vps.
OS:Centos
CP:Virtuozzo
Now the main problem is that I was never able to login to admin after installation/configuration i.e
[url]
This is admin url,
I have contact the openvpn but they have not yet supported much they say I have to enter root password. But I dont know what are default login for that.
One more thing I guess root is the username and should I need to enter my Virtuozzo password or what?
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Sep 29, 2009
How do go about discovering where your bottleneck is with an openvpn setup?
Ive setup openvpn on my remote server and have setup everything so that my desktop clients (vista and ubuntu) at home can connect and have all internet traffic directed successfully through the tunnel.
Im using it to stream video that would normally be inaccessible outside of the UK whilst im in Japan i.e. iplayer.
The problem is its oftenvery choppy and unplayable. Though its good when england is sleeping.
Im new to servers (not to stuff like programming though) so dont know where the problem lies, how to find it out or even where to start looking. For example things ging through my head
Is it the limitations of the vps? How do i find that out? my plan:- vps1
Is it the location of the actual server in the uk? How do i know if there are any better coming from japan?
Is it my configurations? How do i pinpoint that?
Or is it working as good as it can be? How do i know that for sure?
etc etc
What would be your process of elimantion? Quick checks that would tell you which direction to move forward in?
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Sep 7, 2007
I want to make vpn server beside hosting server .
how can i install openvpn in centos server?
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Nov 16, 2007
i havent touched the config on my vps box for months and it has been running OpenVPN without any problems.
All of a sudden it is complaining it cant find /dev/net/tun
Nov 15 06:45:18 gizmo openvpn[23616]: Note: Cannot open TUN/TAP dev /dev/net/tun: No such device (errno=19)
Nov 15 06:45:18 gizmo openvpn[23616]: Note: Attempting fallback to kernel 2.2 TUN/TAP interface
Nov 15 06:45:18 gizmo openvpn[23616]: Cannot allocate TUN/TAP dev
ls -l /dev/net/tun
crwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10, 200 Jul 4 21:55 /dev/net/tun
any reason why it would stop working? i am on a VPS i have asked if the host machine parameters have been changed but in the meantime anything else i can check?
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Apr 1, 2007
I have had great difficulty in setting up OpenVPN, so I thought, when I finally do get it to work, I will write a HOWTO, so other can hopefully benefit…
This guide was done using a FC4 VPS, running on Xen, it will work on OpenVZ, all you need to do is ask your VPS provider to install “tun support”.
1.First of all get a few additional repos, If you already have your repos setup, skip this step
If you have Fedora 3, follow these steps,
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If you have Fedora 4, follow these steps,
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If you have Fedora 5, follow these steps,
[url]
If you have CentOS, follow the “additional third party CentOS repos”
[url]
Then issue these commands, each line is a new command, anything beginning with "#" are comments so dont try to execute those.
Code:
yum update
yum install openssl openssl-devel
# openssl and openssl-devel may be installed already… so don’t worry
2. Right, now you want to install OpenVPN, here are the commands,
Code:
yum install openvpn -y
#Now check that it works
service openvpn start
service openvpn stop
3. A few things to setup before you can make certificates, issue these commands,
Code:
find / -name "easy-rsa"
#you should get an output like this…
/usr/share/doc/openvpn-2.0.7/easy-rsa
#Now, make a copy of the easy-rsa directory, to /etc/openvpn/ ( make sure you #have put the right version number in i.e. mine was -2.0.7, change if needed)
cp -R /usr/share/doc/openvpn-2.0.7/easy-rsa /etc/openvpn/
cd /etc/openvpn/easy-rsa
chmod 777 *
mkdir /etc/openvpn/keys
4. You need to edit the vars file, located in /etc/openvpn/easy-rsa
You can use any editor you like, I used vi.
Change the line
Code:
export KEY_DIR=$D/keys
to
Code:
export KEY_DIR=/etc/openvpn/keys
Also at the bottom of this file you will see something similar to this,
Code:
export KEY_COUNTRY=US
export KEY_PROVINCE=CA
export KEY_CITY=SOMEWHERE
export KEY_ORG="My Org"
export KEY_EMAIL=me@mydomain.com
Change this to your own values.
5. Now its time to make the certificates, enter these commands
Code:
. ./vars
Code:
./clean-all
Code:
./build-ca
# just hit enter to the defaults apart from Common Name, this must be unique
# call it something like mydomain-ca
Code:
./build-key-server server
Code:
./build-key client1
# remember that common name must be unique e.g. use mydomain-client1
# and YES you want to sign the keys
Code:
./build-key client2
# do this step for as many clients as you need.
Code:
./build-dh
6. We are almost done now… right we need to create a few config files, you can download my template from here,
Code:
cd /etc/openvpn
Code:
wget www.designpc.co.uk/downloads/server.conf
# make sure you change a few things in the server.conf file, like DNS
# servers
Code:
touch server-tcp.log
~ this makes the log file..
Code:
touch ipp.txt
this makes the IP reservation list.
7. You need to make a few changes to OpenVPN itself. Go to..
Code:
cd /etc/init.d/
edit the openvpn file
#Uncomment this line (line 119)
Code:
echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
Add these lines below it, changing 123.123.123.123 to your public IP address,
Code:
iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -s 192.168.2.3 -j SNAT --to 123.123.123.123
iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -s 192.168.2.4 -j SNAT --to 123.123.123.123
iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -s 192.168.2.5 -j SNAT --to 123.123.123.123
iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -s 192.168.2.6 -j SNAT --to 123.123.123.123
iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -s 192.168.2.7 -j SNAT --to 123.123.123.123
iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -s 192.168.2.8 -j SNAT --to 123.123.123.123
iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -s 192.168.2.9 -j SNAT --to 123.123.123.123
iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -s 192.168.2.10 -j SNAT --to 123.123.123.123
Now install iptables if you don’t have it already,
Code:
yum install iptables
#test it
service iptables start
service iptables stop
8. Now for the client config files. If your client is a Windows machine, make sure you have installed OpenVPN, use the gui version, downloadable from here;
[url]
You need to copy a few files from the server to your client machine, here is the list, located in /etc/openvpn/keys/
## WARNING ## Use a secure way of transferring these files off the server, something like WinSCP.
ca.crt
client1.csr
client1.key
client1.crt
Put these files in this directory C:Program FilesOpenVPNconfig
Now you need to make a client config, here is an example..
PHP Code:
clientdev tunproto tcp#Change my.publicdomain.com to your public domain or IP addressremote my.publicdomain.com 1194resolv-retry infinitenobindpersist-keypersist-tunca ca.crtcert client1.crtkey client1.keyns-cert-type server#DNS Options here, CHANGE THESE !!push "dhcp-option DNS 123.123.123.123"push "dhcp-option DNS 123.123.123.124"comp-lzoverb 3
Make sure you edit any of the lines with comments above them.
Call this file client1.opvn and put it in C:Program FilesOpenVPNconfig
Make sure the file extension is .opvn not .txt
To connect right click on OpenVPN in the taskbar >> Connect
To test ping 192.168.2.1
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Oct 14, 2009
any experiences to report about purchasing used / refurb gear from either Network Liquidators (nweq.com) or Network Hardware (networkhardware.com)?
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Jun 12, 2008
to setup a OpenVPN server on a Trixbox Server I'm running and tell us how to setup a Linksys router running DD-WRT Firmware to connect as a client. We need to make it so remote Cisco IP phones can connect to Trixbox.
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Feb 23, 2007
how can I use to control or cap the traffic on a per server basis ? in other words, I have 15 servers in one cabinet, in this cabinet there is one switch to feed all 15 servers, the swith is a DELL 3448, one of the servers is eatingup almost all the traffic I have fro the cabinet itself, is there a way I can cap or limit traffic quota on a per port basis at the switch level? or what is the best way to manage this?
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May 29, 2009
I'm up Games for Windows VPS servers with VMWare Server ESXi and wonders whether some option to control the traffic of each IP, I thought about using a "Cisco ASA 5500" but I do not know if it has this option:
Example:
IP 192.168.254.1 = 100GB monthly.
IP 192.168.254.2 = 50GB monthly.
Etc. ..
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Mar 24, 2009
Imagine you want a set of servers (VPSs would be a cheaper choice, that is why I am posting here) that do not have much outbound traffic but download from other servers (more or less as spiders, but I am not trying to create a web index). Disk space or memory size are not important, but port speed and monthly transfer should be as high as possible. As inbound traffic is less frequently used, I wonder if any provider offer cheaper rates if traffic is like this.
I have been searching the forums and have not found too much about this topic (a quite related post named "I want to download the Internet" or something similar did not get a conclusion).
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Jul 2, 2009
I am not sure if my dedicated server is being attacked or if it is legitimate traffic. I need help figuring out the difference and if it is an attack, how to prevent it, and if it is legitimate traffic, how to configure the server to handle the load.
My server information is below:
HardwareIntel Xeon 3220-Quad Core [2.4GHz
8GB DDR2
SATAII 500GB
SoftwareCentOS 5.3-32
Apache2
MySQL 5
PHP 5
When I do ps aux|grep httpd|wc -l I get the count of current connected clients of 259 which is always maxing out my MaxClients of 256. I had increased it to 512, and it maxed out, I had increased it to 1024 and it maxed out, and lastly I had setup to 2048 and it works, but slows the entire server down.
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Jul 1, 2008
if anyone knew of anything that maybe could be done to limit this band-width stealing by AVG or are we just going to have to live with this?
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