Switching From Shared Reseller To VPN
Aug 2, 2008
I am currently hosted at Qoozz.com. Leslie has provided a great service, I've had 99.8% uptime for the year and a half I've been with her (as per hyperspin.com). However, I would like something with a little more freedom, and there's a big price difference between the $12/mo package I'm on now and the cheapest dedicated server they offer, at $40/mo.
I am pretty sure an unmanaged VPN is what I need, but I guess I need to make sure on that. I know my way around Linux, but I've never managed a server before. I'm sure it can't be too hard.
My current specs are 8gb/100gb bandwidth... my usage is well below that, but I have one client who purchased 6gb of that space, so I need at least 8-10gb to be safe. Bandwidth, I could lower that to 50gb probably. CPanel is not necessary. I don't know how much RAM I'd need.
So, that all being said, does anyone have any recommendations for a reliable VPN host that costs near waht I'm paying now? ($12/mo). I can pay more, especiall for quality, I just don't know what is average for my specs.
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Aug 4, 2008
bext type of server to get for my current requirements please.
I need a server to host a simple company web site and our product which is also a web site.
The company web site will be set up soon but the product is still 5-6 months away from being put onto the market. So at present I need a server to host the web site and also need a place where I can host the web site product as I continue to develop it and upload files to the server.
Now ultimately the web site product will have a number of users (I hope!) will contain content including video presentations and will will have a forum so it's important that users have fast access to such material without having to wait.
I thought I would go for a VPS from a company called VT6 Internet who have had some good reviews on this forum.
My budget is around £70 ($140) per month.
However I'm now considering whether I might be able to save some money and go a for a decent (buy cheaper option) in the mean time while the product continues to be developed.
Such as a shared host or a reseller?
I would be really grateful for any advice from you guys please.
If you were in an early stage situation like mine would you go straight for a VPS or make do with a shared or reseller and upgrade as your company grows?
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Apr 27, 2008
I was just curious. When reseller accounts only cost another $10-15 per month, I was wondering if a lot of people just go straight to a reseller account, and don't bother with normal shared account. For me, I always get at least a reseller account, and haven't purchased a shared account in a few years now.
And I suppose there are two ways of looking at this:
1. Ratio of shared accounts to reseller accounts
2. Ratio of total domains on shared account to reseller accounts
Is there any sort of data on this?
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Jul 8, 2007
I think I probably have read enough to know that I need reseller, but just in case ...
I want to give free websites and hosting away to members of my team. I want them to all have separate domains and IP addresses.
I looked at some shared hosting where I can have up to 10 domains on an account, but I'm hoping there will be closer to 50 or 60 of us. I kinda like the idea of them being under my 'umbrella' so to speak; ie if someone breaks our rules too terribly, I have the option of closing their site down. Or if they want to leave the group, they could just pay me monthly for their space.
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Oct 25, 2009
I will get either shared(baby or business) or reseller(Aluminum) from Hostgator but which one is better for me? I will never resell but I will make lots of websites though none of them will probably get too much trafic. If I get shared baby/business, can I host many small websites and control them efficiently? Are all my websites gonna have different directories?
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May 19, 2009
I was wondering what is actually the best service to offer? Shared , Reseller or servers. Im currently looking into shared and resellers but what is the market like for actual dedicated servers?
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Nov 21, 2008
Is there any advantage to paying extra for Reseller Hosting vs. the Business Shared plan if you are not going to be reselling the space?
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Apr 18, 2008
I have a few projects of making websites for some clients. I want to buy some hosting space, should i buy shared or resellers accounts? When they say one can host unlimited domains on a shared hosting space does it mean one can also use it for different clients. As of now i am not interested in just selling domain names and hosting spaces to clients. I need space only to host the website i design for my clients.
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Jul 6, 2007
why reseller accounts are considered better than shared hosting accounts?
Both are the same, except that reseller manages each domain separately. Shared hosting is way much cheaper than a reseller, are there really big negatives which make them much cheaper?
If SEO and Adsense wise, there is a difference between shared and reseller, due to separate domain management in the reseller being favourable for SEO, I would go with reseller.
So far, I've done shared hosting, and using htaccess, had no problems setting up multiple sites in my shared account, which is a lot cheaper than any reseller account. Not sure how the search engines would treat my multiple sites....
Are addon domains (in a shared hosting) - bad, since Cpanel actually treats them as subdomains?
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May 22, 2007
Wouls it be better to have a good resseller account like Cirtex RC1 or take a 256Mb cPanel/Lxadmin VPS?
It's for a relatively busy Joomla site.
I don't feel like adding it to my main VPS as I fear it will affect performance.
My current VPS is 512Mb from Solar VPS and I could up this to 768 for less money but I want to separate the 2 sites.
My budget does not allow me to spend more than $20-$25 more.
The catch is I want it managed.
Would a reseller account be the way?
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Feb 2, 2009
how come the difference between shared and resellers storage is so different? If you buy shared, you can get stupid amounts of storage like 250 gigs or even unlimited for $5 a month. Yet the same company sells a reseller account for $30 and you only get 20 gigs.
Assuming you are going to split that up and sell that 20 gigs in 1 gig blocks to try and make money, why wouldn't your potential customer buy the shared account instead, and get way more space? It seems backwards to me. Shared $5 should be 20 gigs, and resellers $30 should be 250 gigs. I'm talking about big name trusted sites, not fly-by-nights who have unlimited everything.
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Oct 3, 2007
The more I read on the forum, the more I'm beginning to consider a reseller plan.
Basically, I'm an ASP.NET/MS-SQL developer and I foresee myself developing (and possibly managing) a relatively small number of websites for people who likely have neither the technical skills nor desire to get too involved with maintaining their websites. So, I need to be able to host multiple domains, have multiple databases, and probably multiple FTP accounts.
The obvious advantage of reseller accounts, as I understand them, is that they give you the ability to provide the website owner (my customer) the tools to manage their site in more or less the same way they could if they directly set up their hosting account with GoDaddy or whomever. But, if my customers end up being people that don't want to mess with any of that, then this capability is not important. However, after looking at ResellerZoom.com, which I saw recommended in another thread, it seems the sheer capacity of resources available, e.g. unlimited databases, 200 domains, make it worth the slightly higher cost.
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Jul 19, 2007
I currently have Reseller Hosting with Clook UK costing me £21.14 per month but I have noticed several providers now have VPS packages available for only £17.99 per month. The VPS packages are able to offer more storage space and higher bandwidth for less money.
I'm considering making the move to a Linux VPS service but need to know if the learning curve is steep in comparison to the CPanel/WHM environment I am used to?
I'll be looking to move 3 sites which all include forums onto this new service.
Can anyone recommend a good but fairly cheap host? All servers must be UK based.
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Oct 1, 2007
I know to some of you this may sound like a totally silly question. But I would like to know what the main advantages are if you have a VPS instead of a shared reseller hosting.
I notice some of the basic VPS packages give you 512MB of memory. Other than that, the rest of the stats seem to be along the lines of what you might get in an advanced reseller hosting plan such as one available from Reseller Zoom.
I am looking into VPS as a dedicated server is a little over my budget, however, I am not entirely clear what makes VPS better.
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Jan 26, 2009
i need a company that offers all of these services.
uk or us not fussed really.
shared -
reseller -
ftp -
ircd -
shells -
eggdrop -
bnc -
shoutcast -
i have bittraffic so far. but dont really wanna use them ...
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Apr 17, 2008
an recommendation on a shared hosting reseller with unlimited bandwidth(or atleast about 1500gb) and about 60-70gb harddrive? And preferably have servers in the US and europe, so i can pick one in usa and 1 in europe.
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Apr 29, 2008
I've had a look at the different types of hosting, and had a guess at the description,
Shared
A machine with many, many domains on each for individual customer.
E-Commerce
Same as above with SSL?
Dedicated
One machine to yourself, one domain?
Managed
?
VPS
You have a dedicated potion of a machine to use as many domains on as you want?
Colocation
You own the server, someone else looks after it.
Reseller
Hard Disk space and Bandwidth to be apportioned to each domain as you see fit, cpanel with each domain so that you can 'resell'
So what type of hosting would I want to host 5 to 10 of my own websites that use around 100GB a month bandwidth?
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May 26, 2009
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Apr 2, 2009
This question gets asked a lot in our Helpdesk and I figured I would post our knowledgebase article here to help anyone else wondering the Pros and Cons of Unlimited Domain Shared Hosting vs. Reseller Hosting. If anyone has anything else to add, I appreciate any feedback on how we can improve our KB article.
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Given the present state of shared hosting, many clients may ask "Why would I need a Reseller account if I can host unlimited Addon and Parked domains within a single shared hosting account?". There is certainly enough Disk Space and Bandwidth provided in many of today's hosting packages, so why bother to purchase a Reseller account?
Many don't realize the drawbacks of hosting large numbers of domains within a single hosting account until they've already packed tens of them onto a single package.
So how do you know whether a Reseller account or Shared Hosting account is right for you? The answer is in how you plan to provide access to others and how "mission-critical" the sites are. You should consider the following factors when deciding on hosting a large number of domains:
1. Who will be managing these sites?
2. How important is site security between sites?
3. Will these domains need dedicated SSLs?
4. How resource intensive will these sites be (RAM, CPU, MySQL)?
In a nutshell, Reseller plans are for those who wish to host websites for other sub-clients and a shared hosting package is for a single individual managing multiple personal domains. We'll go over the 4 points above in greater detail.
1. Who will be managing these site?
If you personally own multiple domains and wish to host them within the same hosting space, you can easily do so with an Addon or Parked domain. An addon domain will allow you to host a new domain within a subdirectory of your hosting space. A parked domain will allow you to have multiple domain names point to the same content. Since addon domains reside within the same user space as your main domain, you can manage all of your domains with a single login. You can see the problem if you want to provide another user with access. Since all accounts are managed with a single set of login credentials, if you give another user access to their addon domain you are also giving them access to your main domain. If you have vital information stored on your main domain and you are hosting another domain as an addon domain for someone else, you cannot provide them access to their hosting without compromising the integrity of your main domain.
When hosting sites as a Reseller, your clients in turn will want access to their account and will want exclusive rights to their disk space and server resources. With a Reseller account, each sub-account you create gets its own username, password, and isolated user space on the server. Individual clients of yours have access to their user space and their user space alone. In addition to the isolation with regards to access concerns, each account also gets their own cPanel access. All of the same great features that you use to manage your sites can also be given to your clients. Next time client Y wants to add an email account, you don't have to do it for them for fear of giving them access to your cPanel, you can simply give them their login details and they can manage their own email accounts.
2. How important is site security between sites?
This is along the same lines as point 1. This is not necessarily related to who you are hosting for, but what content you are hosting. Imagine that you are a webmaster and you are hosting your own personal site-in-a-box community forums (such as PHPBB or vBulliten) on your main domain and a company website for a paying client on an addon domain. It is not uncommon for popular scripts to have security flaws in older versions. Script authors will often update security flaws in later versions of their software. For this reason, it is very important to keep scripts up to date on your site. But let's assume you forget to update your scripts for a couple of months and an unscrupulous individual takes advantage of a well known security hole. Using this exploit, they gain access to your forums and any subdirectories. Since you are hosting another domain as an addon, they now have access to this domain's content as well. A site defacement on this company's site may not bode well for you when they are considering you for web master services in the future.
If these two domains had been separate into two individual users (i.e. two subaccounts created through a Reseller), their content would've been inherently isolated server side by Linux's user management. Sure, your forums still would've been affected by the security hole, but the break-in would've been isolated to your site alone.
Going back to our example, let's say that instead of a corporate website as an addon domain you are hosting an image gallery site for all of your cats. In this case, it may not be a big deal if a compromise in your main domain spreads to your addon domain. After all, they are both owned by you and you're only losing some time and effort to restore these sites from your local backups (which I'm sure you've actively maintained ). But then again, you are losing time and time is money. If these sites had been separated into individual users, again, you'd only have to restore one site's content.
The idea here is isolation. Reseller plans provide you with the peace of mind to know that if one of your users doesn't keep up with their site's content as actively as they should, their actions won't negatively impact the content hosted on other domains. If you and those you host in your addons are diligent webmasters, maybe this point won't have much bearing on your decision. Only you can say for sure.
3. Will these domains need SSLs?
As of this writing, SSL certificates must have a dedicated IP address to be installed. If you are hosting multiple domains on the same shared hosting package, you can still install an SSL (or purchase a dedicated IP address and install one) but you are limited to exactly one SSL on your account. If you are hosting multiple domains on the same package (and consequently the same IP), you must choose which domains gets to have the dedicated SSL.
Sub accounts of Resellers can each be placed onto separate IP addresses and, as a result, can each have their own dedicated SSL installed.
Of course, both shared accounts and Resellers' sub accounts can use the server's shared SSL free of charge. However, some clients prefer to see their domain in the URL bar when they visit https.
4. How resource intensive will these sites be (RAM, CPU, MySQL)?
We've already established that disk space and bandwidth will be no problem. But what about CPU, RAM, and MySQL resources?
It's important to be aware of the resource needs of your website. As administrators, we have to make sure all users "play nice" on the server. We can't have user X eating all of the CPU cycles computing pi to the trillionth decimal place while you are trying to serve web pages to your loyal visitors. We have to monitor the actions of all of our users and in the event someone is stepping beyond the bounds of acceptable resource consumption, we have to take action. In most cases, this entails disabling the abusive script, but in extreme cases we have to suspend the abusive user account to prevent other domains from encountering performance degradation on their sites.
If you are hosting 100 domains as addon domains, all serving nothing but static HTML pages, maybe you will stay off the radar.
But considering most sites are more complicated than static HTML, you may want to be aware of how many sites you host as addons and what content they serve. If you're hosting the latest and greatest Joomla modules, with up to date news feeds, integrated forums modules, polls, blog posts, etc your site can certainly require a degree of CPU to serve your pages. Now imagine you have 5 or 10 of these sites all hosted as addon domains. The resources these sites need to generate their content can quickly add up and before you know it you've got a friendly email from Acenet, Inc. in your inbox wondering why your user is consuming 2 of the 8 CPU cores on the server. That may be an exaggeration, but you get the idea. In the event your resource usage becomes so excessive that we have to suspend your user, now all of your sites are down instead of whichever one may be the direct cause of the spike in CPU, RAM, or MySQL consumption.
If each of these had been separate Reseller accounts, the offending account could've been suspended temporarily while we work through the cause, leaving the rest of your domains live and kicking.
The conclusion here is that you need to be aware of the needs of your sites in a general sense. Hosting unlimited domains within a shared hosting space is certainly a nice feature. For those webmasters who have multiple presences on the web, it's very convenient to be able to manage all of their personal domains from a single control panel. For those entrepreneurs who are hosting multiple domains for other individuals, the features and security associated with a Reseller plan and the inherent isolation of Linux users is a must have.
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Aug 17, 2008
Here is my dilemma, thanks to a thread in these forums I was directed to a hosting website called pc-core.net and I was interested in using them, because it does not appear that they oversell at all. My question is regarding the fact that they have the shared hosting for $12/month with ~5gb of disk space and 50gb of transfer. I then just looked at reseller hosting for the heck of it, and noticed i could get a reseller hosting account with 45gb storage and 450gb of bandwidth for $10/month. Even though I wont be selling hosting, or anything like that, can I use a reseller hosting account like a normal shared hosting account?...just with more space and bandwidth?
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Apr 23, 2008
I would like to know the different between the shared hosting and reseller hosting?
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As it stands now, I host my DNS locally. However, I would like to use DNSmadeEasy instead of my local DNS service. As far as I can tell, this entails the following:
1) Transferring my DNS zones over to DNSmadeEasy
2) Updating my glue records (or "host records" as GoDaddy calls them) so that my current ns1.mydomain.com and ns2.mydomain.com point to the DNSmadeEasy IP's instead of my server IP's.
My question then is, will the nameserver records for domains that point to my DNS automatically update?
The reason I ask is that when you setup nameserver entries at some registrars, they ask you for the nameservers AND the associated IP's. So do people who host on my server need to go to their registrar and update the IP's manually or will these glue records changes be reflected on all domains that point to ns1.mydomain.com and ns2.mydomain.com once their TTL expires?
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Apr 26, 2008
I built a website for a friend and uploaded it using Cute-FTP. My trial version expired, and I decided I didn't want to buy it because Filezilla has been highly recommended and it is free. I have downloaded Filezilla, but can't seem to get a connection to the server so that I can revise some of the website files and upload them. I keep getting a 530 Login incorrect error: cannot connect to server. I think I got the hostname, username and password correct, but I am not positive now, and I can't go back to Cute-FTP to see what I had entered there. It keeps shutting down on me. Is there any way I can find out exactly what I should be doing (like how to verify my login information) to get a connection?
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Mar 26, 2008
Like a couple of others that have posted here recently, we are looking to switch hosting from Rackspace to someone else. We've been with Rackspace for 3 years, and host 2 dedicated servers with them for our e-commerce business. We were with three other hosting companies the 2 years before that with many headaches, and Rackspace really stabilized the IT part of our business.
But they don't seem to be too competitive on pricing as our business grows. Our servers are over 3 years old now, and we just wanted to upgrade to comparable HW. We have already replaced a couple of hard drives and would prefer to be proactive. But they won't move on their pricing which would be a SIGNIFICANT increase in our budget, and most of our original support team has moved on, and I don't sense the same level of support we once had.
Our system is Windows-based running Cold Fusion. We have a web server and a database server running SQL. I have a full-time Cold Fusion developer on staff, but need Windows managed dedicated servers for our growing e-commerce retail business. We sell products to consumers - we do NOT resell IT services. Our shopping cart and back end system was all developed in house in Cold Fusion.
So these are some of the possibilities we have come up with to replace Rackspace, and I would appreciate any feedback from those that may be utilizing services from any of these companies:
savvis
datapipe
handynetworks
crystaltech
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Jan 26, 2009
I've been using dot5hosting for about 2 years now and they have been alight. The thing is, for the last two years I have only been hosting a basic html/css website which is never to much stress on the servers. I don't get a huge amount of visitors on my site, but its a decent amount.
Just recently I have added a forum and blog on my site. For the forum I use Invision Power Board 2.3 and for my blog I use Wordpress 2.7. This is where the trouble begins.
Both the forum and the blog work fine, but they just take ages to load. If I had over 100 user on the blog and forum at one moment I would understand, but I haven't released the blog and forum to the public yet, as I'm trying to optimize them. The forum takes abou 10 seconds to load completely, while the blog takes over 15 seconds. I have tried everything with wordpress like cache etc..
So, I come here to ask what host you guys recommend for me. I've been looking over at HostGator and they seem to be what I need. I was also looking at MediaTemple Grid but form what I've read the Grid Service is very slow, and expensive. I just need a host that can run anything related to PHP and MySQl fast (like Wordpress and IPB)
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Feb 12, 2009
I am in the process of transferring my hosting provider. I have completed the necessary steps to register an account with my new host(Host Papa). They already successfully transferred my domain and i am now waiting for the DNS change to be recognized(24-72 hrs). Host Papa now says the only thing to be done is to upload the website files to their server. The problem is that i have not yet copied the files from my old host, and i cannot seem to access the files now, as they have transferred the domain already.
I have no idea how to locate the files, as i have no access to my cPanel. I have not canceled my old host yet, and will not until my site is live on the new host. But i am stressing hard because i cant locate the files and obviously need that to happen asap.
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Jan 20, 2009
So one of my current hosts is a GoDaddy reseller. The site they're hosting is an eCommerce store run on .asp. It uses the Early Impact ProductCart shopping cart. It uses MS SQL databases if I understand correctly.
I have two sites currently hosted with LiquidWeb. I would switch my eCommerce site over to them, except they only offer Linux shared hosting plans. I would have to go with a VPS to get Windows with them. I'm looking for a shared hosting plan with 5 things in mind:
1) Excellent support and hosting uptime - on the level of Liquid Web. I'm willing to pay a premium for a good host. Over the past few days, pages time out and do not load on my GoDaddy server...and GoDaddy's support is no good. The site is in the building stages right now so it receives no more than like 5 hits per day. Uptime is the biggest issue besides support. If my site doesn't load currently receiving 5 hits a day....it's gonna be AWFUL when it's getting more visitors.
2) Email accounts - I have to pay extra for email accounts with GoDaddy. I'm hoping for a free email solution if at all possible.
3) I will likely need help with moving my website over and making sure everything runs correctly on the new host's server. If there's a host who can provide support for this, it would be a huge help.
4) 30-Day Moneyback Guarantee required.
5) I'm currently on the GoDaddy Windows Economy plan. I would hope to keep most of these features with new host, including all critical ones such as server software, etc. I tried to link the page showing the features, however I don't have enough posts to do
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Jul 9, 2008
As you may have noted from my previous posts im now switching from my old host to WiredTree.com, after a while i'll give a formal review, buy guys, trust me these guys are outstanding. The response time for a support ticket is literally within MINUTES...i can actually submit a support ticket.. sit for 5 or 10 minutes, refresh, and ill get an answer, and an answer that actually helps. This host is great, plus, they offer cPanel pre-installed, and free. Now that's great. So far i trust these guys completely.
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So apparently APC does not make a DC version of their metered switched PDU.
Anyone else have any experience with a PDU of this nature? Just remote on/off is really required and SNMP.
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Feb 28, 2008
I made a post earlier this week regarding spec of a server, and thanks for all the replies, looks like we were looking in the wrong area looking at hardware, instead of our application. However what it did bring to light is problems swapping from our server 1 to server 2.
Both our servers are hosted by same company, our domain name points at one of the servers, and as we were experiencing problems with speed decided to move our name from server 1 to server 2, we did this using a control panel supplied by our hosting company, this worked, but however caused major problems as some of our users accessing the server could not access for nearly 24 hours, I understand now that making these changes takes time to propogate around the web.
My question is, is there anyway of switching our domain name from one server another, that from a user point of view is nearly instant, so within minutes of us making the switch ALL our users can access the new server?
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May 22, 2008
I am finally switching servers at ThePlanet from my Celeron processor to a beefier and much more powerful/newer solution. It should solve all of my high load problems and it's really affordable.
So basically, I have to migrate about 30 sites to the new server. The problem is, several of the hosted sites rely on databases and some even have SSL certificates associated with them.
I have cPanel, and I know there is a cool tool in WHM to copy files from another server.
However, I have been told it will not bring any databases with it.
So I am stuck wondering how the heck I transfer the databases and have them all set up properly?
Also, how do I transfer an SSL certificate to the new server?
In addition to all of that, is there any information I need to know before initiating the transfer besides what I have already asked? I know I need to configure it first, with all of the settings I have on the old one.
I am not a web hosting company, this is all for personal use. I definitely need some guidance on what to do and how to do it right from the start.
The only other question I have, is how long does all of this take? Is this something I can do in the middle of the night and have up and running by morning or is this going to require a day or two of downtime and should be planned for the weekend?
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