Shared Hosting As Offsite
Dec 12, 2008if there are any shared hosting that can be used as an offsite. I need around 150 gb and I'm willing to pay around 13 for each month
View 2 Repliesif there are any shared hosting that can be used as an offsite. I need around 150 gb and I'm willing to pay around 13 for each month
View 2 RepliesI'm trying to find at least three web hosting companies to choose from to host a Joomla websites on a shared server. Would consider dedicated if the deal was right. I have a friend of mine who wants to create a church website, and is looking for the best deal. I use Netfirms which I have never had an issue with, but I didn't want to be bias, and would like give him other options to choose from.
Is there a good WebHosting Review site, I could check out, or maybe someone could recommend their top three. I reading threw the forums here and I noticed there are not that many complaints with Hostgator. Again, I just want to see if there was anything out there better.
This question gets asked a lot in our Helpdesk and I figured I would post our knowledgebase article here to help anyone else wondering the Pros and Cons of Unlimited Domain Shared Hosting vs. Reseller Hosting. If anyone has anything else to add, I appreciate any feedback on how we can improve our KB article.
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Given the present state of shared hosting, many clients may ask "Why would I need a Reseller account if I can host unlimited Addon and Parked domains within a single shared hosting account?". There is certainly enough Disk Space and Bandwidth provided in many of today's hosting packages, so why bother to purchase a Reseller account?
Many don't realize the drawbacks of hosting large numbers of domains within a single hosting account until they've already packed tens of them onto a single package.
So how do you know whether a Reseller account or Shared Hosting account is right for you? The answer is in how you plan to provide access to others and how "mission-critical" the sites are. You should consider the following factors when deciding on hosting a large number of domains:
1. Who will be managing these sites?
2. How important is site security between sites?
3. Will these domains need dedicated SSLs?
4. How resource intensive will these sites be (RAM, CPU, MySQL)?
In a nutshell, Reseller plans are for those who wish to host websites for other sub-clients and a shared hosting package is for a single individual managing multiple personal domains. We'll go over the 4 points above in greater detail.
1. Who will be managing these site?
If you personally own multiple domains and wish to host them within the same hosting space, you can easily do so with an Addon or Parked domain. An addon domain will allow you to host a new domain within a subdirectory of your hosting space. A parked domain will allow you to have multiple domain names point to the same content. Since addon domains reside within the same user space as your main domain, you can manage all of your domains with a single login. You can see the problem if you want to provide another user with access. Since all accounts are managed with a single set of login credentials, if you give another user access to their addon domain you are also giving them access to your main domain. If you have vital information stored on your main domain and you are hosting another domain as an addon domain for someone else, you cannot provide them access to their hosting without compromising the integrity of your main domain.
When hosting sites as a Reseller, your clients in turn will want access to their account and will want exclusive rights to their disk space and server resources. With a Reseller account, each sub-account you create gets its own username, password, and isolated user space on the server. Individual clients of yours have access to their user space and their user space alone. In addition to the isolation with regards to access concerns, each account also gets their own cPanel access. All of the same great features that you use to manage your sites can also be given to your clients. Next time client Y wants to add an email account, you don't have to do it for them for fear of giving them access to your cPanel, you can simply give them their login details and they can manage their own email accounts.
2. How important is site security between sites?
This is along the same lines as point 1. This is not necessarily related to who you are hosting for, but what content you are hosting. Imagine that you are a webmaster and you are hosting your own personal site-in-a-box community forums (such as PHPBB or vBulliten) on your main domain and a company website for a paying client on an addon domain. It is not uncommon for popular scripts to have security flaws in older versions. Script authors will often update security flaws in later versions of their software. For this reason, it is very important to keep scripts up to date on your site. But let's assume you forget to update your scripts for a couple of months and an unscrupulous individual takes advantage of a well known security hole. Using this exploit, they gain access to your forums and any subdirectories. Since you are hosting another domain as an addon, they now have access to this domain's content as well. A site defacement on this company's site may not bode well for you when they are considering you for web master services in the future.
If these two domains had been separate into two individual users (i.e. two subaccounts created through a Reseller), their content would've been inherently isolated server side by Linux's user management. Sure, your forums still would've been affected by the security hole, but the break-in would've been isolated to your site alone.
Going back to our example, let's say that instead of a corporate website as an addon domain you are hosting an image gallery site for all of your cats. In this case, it may not be a big deal if a compromise in your main domain spreads to your addon domain. After all, they are both owned by you and you're only losing some time and effort to restore these sites from your local backups (which I'm sure you've actively maintained ). But then again, you are losing time and time is money. If these sites had been separated into individual users, again, you'd only have to restore one site's content.
The idea here is isolation. Reseller plans provide you with the peace of mind to know that if one of your users doesn't keep up with their site's content as actively as they should, their actions won't negatively impact the content hosted on other domains. If you and those you host in your addons are diligent webmasters, maybe this point won't have much bearing on your decision. Only you can say for sure.
3. Will these domains need SSLs?
As of this writing, SSL certificates must have a dedicated IP address to be installed. If you are hosting multiple domains on the same shared hosting package, you can still install an SSL (or purchase a dedicated IP address and install one) but you are limited to exactly one SSL on your account. If you are hosting multiple domains on the same package (and consequently the same IP), you must choose which domains gets to have the dedicated SSL.
Sub accounts of Resellers can each be placed onto separate IP addresses and, as a result, can each have their own dedicated SSL installed.
Of course, both shared accounts and Resellers' sub accounts can use the server's shared SSL free of charge. However, some clients prefer to see their domain in the URL bar when they visit https.
4. How resource intensive will these sites be (RAM, CPU, MySQL)?
We've already established that disk space and bandwidth will be no problem. But what about CPU, RAM, and MySQL resources?
It's important to be aware of the resource needs of your website. As administrators, we have to make sure all users "play nice" on the server. We can't have user X eating all of the CPU cycles computing pi to the trillionth decimal place while you are trying to serve web pages to your loyal visitors. We have to monitor the actions of all of our users and in the event someone is stepping beyond the bounds of acceptable resource consumption, we have to take action. In most cases, this entails disabling the abusive script, but in extreme cases we have to suspend the abusive user account to prevent other domains from encountering performance degradation on their sites.
If you are hosting 100 domains as addon domains, all serving nothing but static HTML pages, maybe you will stay off the radar.
But considering most sites are more complicated than static HTML, you may want to be aware of how many sites you host as addons and what content they serve. If you're hosting the latest and greatest Joomla modules, with up to date news feeds, integrated forums modules, polls, blog posts, etc your site can certainly require a degree of CPU to serve your pages. Now imagine you have 5 or 10 of these sites all hosted as addon domains. The resources these sites need to generate their content can quickly add up and before you know it you've got a friendly email from Acenet, Inc. in your inbox wondering why your user is consuming 2 of the 8 CPU cores on the server. That may be an exaggeration, but you get the idea. In the event your resource usage becomes so excessive that we have to suspend your user, now all of your sites are down instead of whichever one may be the direct cause of the spike in CPU, RAM, or MySQL consumption.
If each of these had been separate Reseller accounts, the offending account could've been suspended temporarily while we work through the cause, leaving the rest of your domains live and kicking.
The conclusion here is that you need to be aware of the needs of your sites in a general sense. Hosting unlimited domains within a shared hosting space is certainly a nice feature. For those webmasters who have multiple presences on the web, it's very convenient to be able to manage all of their personal domains from a single control panel. For those entrepreneurs who are hosting multiple domains for other individuals, the features and security associated with a Reseller plan and the inherent isolation of Linux users is a must have.
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I'have a problem with my aps setup on sanbox.When i create on customer ccp when i click finish i have this error. I must only test.
Error: Instance of application with id 124 and version '1-4' can not be provided: There is no resource of class 'Shared hosting Apache' with provisioning attributes 'Web Cluster' in subscription with id 1.:There is no resource of class 'Physical hosting (IIS)' with provisioning attributes 'Web Cluster' in subscription with id 1..If i add the shared hosting apache resourse i get this error : There are no "apache" services that satisfy given attributes: "Web Cluster".
I am developing a website for a client of mine (the client is a close friend and know's that he is getting a newbie). This site will be larger (project wise) than anything that I have ever done (everything I have done in the past has been FrontPage). We will be using several third party applications that need to run on the server as well as our own custom developed applications. We do not yet know how much access to the server's deeper structures we will need for all of the applications that we want loaded on our server to run. Things we have in mind: oscommerce, mysql, php5, apache, linux, vbulletin, blogger, phpbb, adserver, ect... Would these things run ok on a shared host and would I have full authority to configure them without needing full access to the server? Or will I need access to the entire server (dedicated server) in order to have full customization capabilities? I guess all I am trying to figure out at this point is will shared hosting for a large project limit our abilities to use 3rd party apps, or do most 3rd party application designers build their stuff to work in a shared hosting environment anyway? If we need to get a dedicated server we will, but if we can get away with shared hosting for a while (especially during development when the site will not be generating revenue) it would be nice to avoid the price of a dedicated server. Many thanks for your comments, insight, and expertise! Also, if anyone can sight some common scenarios that may require a dedicated server over a shared hosting plan, that may help me to understand what the limitations of a shared hosting plan vs. a deicated or virtual dedicated server are.
View 2 Replies View RelatedHere is my dilemma, thanks to a thread in these forums I was directed to a hosting website called pc-core.net and I was interested in using them, because it does not appear that they oversell at all. My question is regarding the fact that they have the shared hosting for $12/month with ~5gb of disk space and 50gb of transfer. I then just looked at reseller hosting for the heck of it, and noticed i could get a reseller hosting account with 45gb storage and 450gb of bandwidth for $10/month. Even though I wont be selling hosting, or anything like that, can I use a reseller hosting account like a normal shared hosting account?...just with more space and bandwidth?
View 3 Replies View RelatedI'm new to the VPS scene, so could someone tell me the difference between VPS and say shared hosting or dedicated hosting? Actually I really like to know what a Virtual Private Server actually is.. I know shared hosting is typically a single account on a server with several hundred other accounts which is used primarily for the sole purpose of hosting websites, and I know that dedicated hosting is functionally the same as colo except that you rent the server, instead of having your own purchased server plugged into some network. So what is VPS?
View 3 Replies View RelatedDo website builders generally go with shared hosting or dedicated server? I mean, if they work on several websites would they get a dedicated server instead of shared? From what I understand through reading shared hosting is basically if you only have one website. So one with multiple websites would go with a dedicated server?
View 12 Replies View RelatedI would like to know the different between the shared hosting and reseller hosting?
View 7 Replies View Relatedwould it be possible to have my main box running apache, a second box for dns/other and an offsite secondary dns such as DNS1.PUBLIC-DNS.NET?
Is it possible to authenticate the primary and offsite secondary nameserver so the zone is transferred to the secondary? Would i need to pay for a special service, or do free ones exist? Are there any security implications with zone files being transferred out over the public internet, would a vpn need to be configured or can the process be encrypted via the transfer procedure?
Finally, how would this affect the way the entire virtual hosting works? I know when the nameserver on the host machine serves resolves a name request for a computer trying to browse the site in question, but when the actual http request goes to the web server does it incldue the domain it is looking at also?
I have a server in UK and i want to make daily offsite backups to a remote location using rsync or other similar software.
My idea is to buy a backup server in USA, but i dont know if is going to work well/fast because of the long distance between UK and USA (latency).
So any experiences making backups from UK > USA?
What do you think, can i buy a backup server in USA or if i want to have fast/reliable backups i have to buy a server also in uk because of the distance?
Razorservers.com provide offsite backup service that can be used for not only servers but also PCs, Mac, linux, Windows, Solaris, etc. Think that must be useful for many web masters.
Does your host provide the same?
does someone know a cheap offsite for a server? I'm looking one for 150 gb and I want to spend around 12 dollars for each month.
View 11 Replies View RelatedDoes anyone here know of any offsite backup companies based in the UK?
I've recently moved my server from Texas to London and want to use an ftp/rsync offsite backup space with a company in the UK
leave LayeredTech completely, including Dynavol.
My new host I've chosen doesn't have backup services, but no big deal. I'd like to know what people out there use (Company and Specific Services) for off site backup of their servers.
I can either do push or pull. I liked how Dynavol worked. I guess if that's the best option I could keep LT strictly for Dynavol, but looking to see what others think.
I have a VPS with remote backup that I dod every night with rsync.
Now, for further SEO testing, Im looking into a reseller account.
Some reseller plan do offer access via SSH. Im not familiar with this ssh access for a reseller. Would I still be able to program a cpanel backup and then rsync all my cpanel backup ?
I've just co-located a few servers and I need to get some offsite NAS, based in the UK so we can start taking regular backups.
Wondering if anyone could give me some recommendations of good but reasonably cheap companies to use for this?
running my own servers but i have been hosting websites for a years now using a dedi server in the USA through c-Panel, now i am looking to offer my clients offsite backup to a local server at my end, offering small to large packages of bandwidth and storage.
Anyway i have all that sorted the thing is i had a webpage developer create the pages for me and configure it to my ip address (as im not using a domain name for this server) the problem im having is hosting these pages on my centOS 5 server setting up apache, ftp, etc. i require a username and password for each of my clients and when they log in they will be displayed with there file inventory including the files they have uploaded, where that is the other problem i am having creating username and passwords for each of my clients what would be the best software that could do this? remember these backups are via ftp and a web based interface for files up to 500mb but to use a ftp program i will still need to create a username and password for each of my clients
I have a managed dedicated server at a co-location. While the service I pay for runs the Cpanel backup function, I feel I need to provide a better service to my customers by creating an exact duplicate(image) of the drive itself. I don’t want my customers to lose their databases and web site information.
I need help with creating a Plan B. The plan I thought might work, would be to get a workstation, download Acronis and make an image of my dedicated server on a scheduled basis.
The reasons I thought this was a good idea:
1) I would have the image in my hands(my control), should something happen to my main hosting server.
2) It would create a complete off-site back-up.
3) It seemed cost effective.
What if Scenario:
So my main hosting server gets taken away in a hurricane and the data center will not be up and running for 3 months. I have an image of the hard disk, now what do I do with it?
We have a server where we host the sites and email services, and we are looking to buy a MS Exchange offsite email solution in order to have a reliable dedicated email service.
We are thinking on going with Rackspace MS Exchange solution:
http://www.rackspace.com/email_hosting/exchange_hosting
So now its the hard part, i run my own dns / nameservers at this server so if i just change the mx at my Plesk panel if my webserver goes offline my email will also stop working, correct?
And at my registrar i only can change the name of the nameservers and the ips... and also add more nameservers (im using 2 ns).
So i need to figure it out how to config/setup the rackspace email in a way that when my webserver goes offline my email can keep up working.
The rackspace support team, said to me that they can host/run my dns on their servers in order to have my email working if my webserver goes offline.
So what do you think? Its a goo idea? The only idea?
Or there are better ideas?
I have two VPS's, VPS1 has one vbulletin community. VPS2 has about 10 cpanel accounts, mostly email, a blog site, etc. Both VPS's well under 10 gig in size not including any backups stored on the VPS.
For the more important VPS, VPS1, I am packaging the cpanel account (50mb) and SCPing it to VPS2.
I am also running pckgacct on the cpanel accounts on VPS2 (about 2 gig total, 1 tar.gz is 1.5gb, three others around 250mb, others smaller) and storing them on VPS2.
I then have WS_FTP scheduled to download the cpanel tar.gz files each night to a local machine.
I also have WHM setup to do daily incremental backups, but am not moving any of these offsite.
So, it seems I have three options:
Keep doing what I am doing.
Keep moving VPS1 tar.gz files to VPS2, but also start moving VPS2 tar.gz files to VPS1.
Start moving tar.gz files (or raw files with rsync) to offsite storage.
I'm curious on some feedback about the three options. These are personal sites, I am not reselling any sites/packages.
It seems like from a data security standpoint (email and stuff), the more 'locations' introduced into the loop, the less security there will be. Does anyone get concerned about moving their email and other data to offsite storage services?
As I said, I have a technical solution currently working, but I am wondering about the theory/data protection aspects of the various options for going forward.
How long do you wait before moving from shared to VPS or dedicated? Apart from security and speed, what are the benefits of dedicated hosting? This says [url] that shared is better than dedicated because you have to do less..
View 14 Replies View RelatedI'm currently using (amongst other backup systems) rsync to an offsite space (am using BQBackup at the moment)
I'm just wondering - apart from backing up all of /home/, /var/lib/mysql/ and the important config files (httpd.conf, php.conf, etc etc) is there anything else that *needs* to be backed up?
Obviously in a worst case scenario, a new machine would be deployed with a fresh OS install (and a fresh WHM/cPanel install) so I wouldn't worry about backing up OS files or cPanel core files, although I'm wondering if there's anything apart from the /home/ directory and the MySQL databases which would be lost (and so need backing up) in the event of a crash?
I have visited a website ( i dont remember the address or its name) which had some tools to check stuff like the whois of the domain, the location of an ip etc.
Also it had a tool where you have your servers ip, and if the ip had several sites on it (shared hosting enviroment) it would make a list of all the sites with that ip....
where I can find that tool or something like that?
I am thinking about moving hosts and I have some RapidSSL SSL Certificates and PositiveSSL (Free from Namecheap) SSL Certificates
I was wondering can I get these moved over to the new host, if I could bring the SSL Certificates without having to have either get a re-issue of the SSL Certificate or buy new ssl Certificates.
I still have the CSR, Private Key from WHM/cPanel and I would be moving to another WHM/cPanel shared hosting account
I have decided to change my current webhost. Recently I have started seeing a lot of downtime. For a long time I was thinking about moving to a VPS. Unfortunately, I don't have any experience managing one. But I am willing to take any hardship to learn setting up and managing a VPS. The main set back here is that my budget is (very) limited (max $12/month). I have seen some hosts offering VPS for rates that are within the above budget.
Can you plz suggest which is better for me? Shared or VPS?
I own about 10 websites presently, but the number is going to increase as I am planning to take web designing seriously. But none of them are high traffic, infact my current monthly traffic is only 15-20GB.
What I want is a host that provide somewhat good customer support ( support ticket system that gets responded within an hour is fine with me), good uptime and allow me to host multiple domains hassle free.
I have been using a shared hosting. My current host has had some unreliable services from time to time in the past. Lately, the primary reason for my decision to leave my current host is that few (or more than few) of my paid subscribers and non-paid visitors said that my website has been down for some time or for weeks or more even *after* they were able to view the site; however, it IS up and running fine for the majority of the users and myself.
What are the possible reasons for being able to view the site for a while but then later find the site down to a few users for weeks or more but the site is up and running fine for most of other people and myself? The "down" shouldn't be "selective" to some people.
Before leaving the current host, I need to know why it happens so that I can choose the right host and the right plan (and shared hosting vs VPS).
About two months ago, my site was hosted on a shared server. I had no problems on a shared server, but I felt like trying something new, so I switched over to a VPS. Right now I have a plan that offers 384MB RAM, 150GB bandwidth, and 15GB disk space. I do monitor my resources, and I'm finding out that I'm hardly using any RAM at all. I check the System Usage meter a couple times a day, and it's always at 100%. My CPU usage levels reach 10% at most.
Should I stick with this VPS or downgrade to a smaller plan? I'm obviously not using up all my resources, so I think it's kind of a waste to fork out $40/month for something I'm not completely using. I'm unsure on whether or not I should go for a smaller VPS or a shared server. I mostly want to lower my budget to a maximum of $20/month. If I do go to a smaller VPS, I would need managed services. For a shared server, I would need at least 100GB of bandwidth, PHP5, and SSH.
I am leaning towards going back to a shared server, but I would like some second opinions.
I am considering going for a VPS after lurker here for a while. I currently have 2 shared hosting reseller accounts that are really outdated. I need to upgrade but didn't know which way to turn.
I only host my own sites at present but might start niche webhosting in the future. I feel I should move to to vps but still dont know why. I guess I dont want to get let behind with technology.
I have around $40 a month to spend, any help would be great.
As you know, many HP like dreamhost, bluehost, ipowerweb, hostgator, 5site, brinkster, netfirms.
So, i wonder that is there a rank try to sort these HP order by speed, support, and all over.
I had been used dreamhost and thinking they are the best shared hosting.
I'm also looking for a ranking in shared hosting but dont know where to find, can you tell me?
Right now I am using the built-in cpanel backup feature to backup all the accounts on my server to an offsite FTP backup account I have on a weekly basis. The problem I am having is that everytime the backup runs, the load (thats what I'm guessing is the cause) is crashing apache/bind, causing sites to be unreachable until I can restart the services. What options do I have to resolve this issue? Currently I already have spri installed, and it does help out a bit, but its still not enough.
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