Seagate OEM Drives... SUN Firmware
Jun 29, 2007
So I bought 4 little simple SCSI drives to build up an older dual p3 server... and they worked great.
Later I bought 4 more and was going to build up an identical machine... but I ended up sitting on it for a few months.
Now that I've gone back to it... I've discovered that the more recent 4 drives have a SUN firmware on them... and CentOS doesn't know how to install on them.
ST318404LC
I've managed to download SeaTools Linux CLI and other tools for downloading (uploading) a firmware file to the drives.
However, I can't figure out a way to copy the existing flash on the working drives to a file, or I can't find a firmware update for the drives
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Jan 11, 2007
Since purchasing 16-disk arrray NAS server 4-5 months ago, 5 disks have crashed so far. They are all WD4000YS. They're all "Raid Edition" which supposed to last longer than typical drives. It has been puzzling me until now.
It turns out that "Data Lifeguard" feature was confusing the RAID controller to believe that the disk was dead, hence the "failed" disk. AFAIK, Western Digital released firmware update on 01/09/07 that's supposed to fix this.
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So, if you have WDxxxxYS on your pre-production server, pull them out for a firmware update first!
For me, I can only swap "hot-spare" out for a firmware update. For other disks, I'll just have to wait for them to "drop" out of the array first. I cannot take this server offline at all. Any suggestions?
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Nov 5, 2009
i want to know if there is a difference between enterprise drives and desktop drives and which ones hosts use
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Aug 30, 2008
Is there a way that I can check if the host provider installed the correct hardware for my server?
I had 3x Seagate 73GB 15k RPM SCSI so I wonder if there is a way to confirm that make sure they gave me the 15k but not 10k?
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Dec 23, 2007
We have been using primarily Western Digital drives in all of our server (Raid Edition Series "YS) but have had some problems recently with failing drives, or SMART errors on drives that were only a month or two old. I'm beginning to think maybe Seagate is a better choice?
Based on all of the experience out there, which way do most of you lean...WD or Seagate?
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Apr 28, 2008
How much faster is a Raptor 74GB 10,000rpm compared to a Seagate 250GB SATA-II 7200rpm? Both are priced the same. I'm comtemplating on which one to use for a database..go for more storage or a faster drive.
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Jul 12, 2007
i bought a new sata drive (seagate 320 gb) yesterday. while i'm trying to install new os to my server, on the setup i take "no disk" error. how can i install freebsd with my sata disc?
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Sep 14, 2009
I have a couple of Dell 1950s and in one of them, I have 2x Seagate 15K.5s that I purchased through Dell and I also have a spare sitting in my rack in case one goes bad, also from Dell.
I was going to be repurposing one of my other 1950s and was going to get two more 15K.5s for it, but wasn't planning on getting them through Dell (rip off?). This way, could still keep the same spare drive around in case a drive went bad in that system as well.
When I was talking to my Dell rep recently when purchasing another system, their hardware tech said you can't use non-Dell drives with Dell drives in the same RAID array because of the different firmware between them.
Anyone know if it is true? Anyone have any experience with using drives from Dell in conjunction with the same model drives from a third party retailer?
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Oct 5, 2009
Has anyone begun implementing SSD drives? We're thinking about using them as OS drives.
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Sep 30, 2009
I'm not sure they make sense yet, especially in bigger raid arrays...
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Nov 4, 2009
I know there are a lot of experienced hardware guys on here, so I wanted some input on 1.5TB drives. Are they reliable enough to be used in non-mission critical storage servers? 99% of what we do is OEM (Dell) equipment, so I don't test raw hardware much these days.
I've read a lot of negative things about Seagate lately. Can anyone chime in with specific models they've had positive or negative experiences with from any vendor? Reading some reviews on the WD 1.5TB Caviar Black drives, there seems to be some weird issues with them going into a recovery cycle.
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Aug 4, 2009
What is the best way to find out which filesystems and harddrive drivers you can remove? Obviously, i need ext2,3 but how do you find which HD you only need?
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Oct 1, 2009
I was just wondering whats the real live experience or difference on using Western Digital Caviar series (green, blue or black) on a DC environment vs the RE which are suppose to be for enterprise business.
On the WDC website the caviar series are targeted under desktop disks not servers. But allot of servers and providers use them. If you have servers your suppose to use the RE series, I exclude raptors as I only want to compare medium performance disks here.
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Apr 23, 2009
I'm building a couple of VPS host servers for a client.
Each server have to host 20 VPS and each server will be 4 cores with 32GB of ram. So CPU and ram should be just fine, my interrogatioon now is hard drives. The company owns the machines, but not the drives yet.
I searched a lot on your forums but found nothing relating on VPS. I'm basicly a DBA IRL, so I have experience in hardrives when it comes to databases, but it's completely different for VPS.
According to my boss, each VPS will run a LAMP solution (having a separeted DB cluster is out of question for some reason).
First, raid1 is indeed a must. There is room for 2x 3.5 drives. I might be able to change the backplane for 4x2.5, but i'm not sure...
I've came to several solutions:
2x SATA 7.2k => comes to about 140$
2x SATA 10k (velociraptor) => comes to about 500$
2x SAS 10k with PCIe controller => comes to about 850$
2x SAS 15k with PCIe controller=> comes to about 1000$
They need at least 300GB storage.
But my problem is that the servers do not have SAS onboard so I need a controller and in my case the cheapest solution is best.
But I'm not sure that SATA 7.2k will hold the charge of 20 complete VPS.
Does it worth it to go with SAS anyway or SATA should be just fine? With SATA better use plain old sata 7.2k or 10k drives?
That's a lot of text for not much: What is best for VPS: SATA 7.2k, SATA 10k or SAS 10k?
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Mar 25, 2007
I am about to buy a Compaq server with 6 SCSI hard drives. In you opinion, what is the best RAID configuration with 6 HDs?
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Jan 7, 2008
Do the old RLX Blade servers use 'mini' hard drives? I can't find an answer anywhere. I seem to recall that they use smaller 2.5" drives. Is this the case?
And, if so, do they make "good" drives worthy of being in a server in that size? Are they essentially just a laptop drive?
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Jul 4, 2009
I must not even understand the basics of how mounting works in Linux.
Physical drive /dev/sda1 is mounted at /
I created a software RAID array (using mdadm) out of two other drives using mdadm, at /dev/md0, and mount it at /vol:
mount /dev/md0 /vol
Code:
Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on
/dev/sda1 9.9G 2.2G 7.3G 23% /
/dev/md0 200G 470M 200G 1% /vol
Now I start creating files in /vol/*
Then I unmount /dev/md0
I still see the files at /vol/*. They seem to be on /dev/sda1.
So how do I use the RAID array at /dev/md0 that I tried to mount at /vol?
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Nov 8, 2009
My server has been formated it has two drives. I have my back up on the second drives.
What is the command I use to list the drives and how to mount the second drive.
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Oct 4, 2009
Does anyone have experience with SSD drives in a server environment? I've seen now a few offers with SSD (Intel) and wondering if the speed is noticeable?
Are they worth it? from what I have been reading is that they a superior in reliability, but have issues with limited write cycles.
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Jul 5, 2009
I must not even understand the basics of how mounting works in Linux.
Physical drive /dev/sda1 is mounted at /
I created a software RAID array (using mdadm) out of two other drives using mdadm, at /dev/md0, and mount it at /vol:
mount /dev/md0 /vol
Code:
Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on
/dev/sda1 9.9G 2.2G 7.3G 23% /
/dev/md0 200G 470M 200G 1% /vol
Now I start creating files in /vol/*
Then I unmount /dev/md0
I still see the files at /vol/*. They seem to be on /dev/sda1.
So how do I use the RAID array at /dev/md0 that I tried to mount at /vol?
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Mar 24, 2009
Anybody know the best place to get a really cheap server with at least 250GB drives? I'm assuming most providers offer HDD's of that size on relatively cheap systems now if we're just looking at SATA.
The machine doesn't need to be anything special, I don't need a ton of bandwidth.
Basically this will be an extra backup machine to pull backups from servers instead of my usual "pushing" of backup data.
So to clarify, I'm looking for a simple machine pretty much anywhere with some drive space! VPS just won't cut it because the drivespace they provide is too expensive (yes, I understand they have nice drive setups though).
RAID etc is not needed, I'm not running anything mission critical but would like to have more locations in place to hold backups for me. WHT worries me alot
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Oct 15, 2009
I can't find providers with 10Krpm HDs+ offshore and they have to have good support. Also I need atleast 2Tb over 100Mbit.
The reason why I need it to be offshore is because my client wants to have a subtitles sites and I'm not exactly sure if its legal or not in america and UK. Also netherlands or germany is preffered I looked at swiftnoc but not sure if they have 10krpm hard drives.
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Nov 1, 2009
I have number of question relevant to dedi. severs. I dont know to post them seperately or in single thread , sorry to mod for my negligence.
raid 1
or
If I have two drives ,and take daily backup on second drive
how much average small websites can hold a single machine=
quad xeon 2.3 , 4gb ram, 1 tb drive what you say?
how many websites you ever hosted on single machine?
is it wise to host large number of website on single powerful machine with external backup, or go for number of small dedis.
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Jun 15, 2008
I'm sure by now we have all noticed the Liquid Web ads for solid state drives by now. These offerings would make for incredible database servers, among other things.My questions is:
How many of you are going to run out and get a solution like this, from liquidweb or anyone else? Why or why not?
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Jan 12, 2008
On my centos webserver I currently am using a 250gb ide drive.
I just bought 2 Western Digital Raptor WD1500ADFD 150GB 10,000 RPM 16MB hard drives.
And now I am wondering what kind of setup I should have?
Should I have the 250gb hd as a backup drive now and have the two raptors in a raid 0 array.
What would be the best configuration?
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Apr 19, 2008
I am thinking of purchasing Samsung Spinpoint F1 drives, either the 750 GB or 1000 GB one. The purpose would be to put them on a large RAID array (e.g. 14 drives in RAID 10/RAID 50). The price and performance looks good. However, I have read many mixed reviews about the drives. Does anybody has any experience with the drive? Again, this will not be used on a desktop environment, but a server environment. OS would be Win2K3 or CentOS.
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Feb 26, 2008
Anyone used 1TB 32mb sata2 drives? Hows there performance and do they overheat?
For our NAS/backup server shall we go ahead with 1TB drives or take 500gig/750gig drives?
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Jul 3, 2007
I am in a little bit of trouble I got a couple (5) of 750GB hdds that I need backed up to another couple (5?) of 750GB hdds so I can save the data storage on them. They are in a Linux box with a LVM setup I also have a RAID ware card on it but not using any RAID # on them. I decided after finding out what I could do with it to go to Windows 2003 on the server and installing RAID5/6 on it.
It seems that I will have to give up all my data and have everything wiped off from the hard drives this is very sad for me but I still have a chance to save the data on them. So I am thinking of copying them to another bunch of hard drives and then re-add it once the system is in place.
I was looking at this
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But thats clearly too expensive as I just need to back up 5 hard drives (750GB/each) and just need to do it one time. Anyone have any suggestions to this or how should I go about doing it. It doesnt have to be right away but its good to know my options.
Is there any place where they might to do this kind of stuff they let you rent their machine for a couple of hours for a fee so you can back up your data? The server is a COLO and the hardware is mine so I have every right to take it off and back it up with no problem from the datacenter.
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Sep 11, 2007
am getting new server with 2 (73GB) hard drives i need to know the following:
1.I need to put /home in one hard drive 73GB and the other partitions like /boot, /tmp,/usr and /var on the other drive
where should i put /home? on the primary or or secondary drive?is there any effect on the speed?
2. Am used to servers with 1 drive. is there any difference when it comes to security aplications such as APF,BFD,mod security and other aplicatuions settings?
3. in general should i take the same actions when handling a server with 1 drive and server with 2 drives?
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Apr 30, 2007
I have a dell POWER VAULT 725N utilizing a 4 HDD RAID 5 setup.
Server has died and bios error message shows that 2 hard drives had failed. I can not boot to windows.
Data is very crucial, what are my options for data recovery?
I really hope I can recover the data, I doubt that two HDD actually failed at the same time without giving any warnings. I hope its the raid controller.
Would like to hear pointers from the community on how to recover important data from the RAID.
Are there any companies/software that would help in this assuming it is a hdd failure and not a controller issue?
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May 31, 2007
i just got another HDD on my server, but i want to use 1 domain and use both hard drives for the 1 domain.
How do i set it up so that both hdd's can be used by the 1 domain..im using WHM but cant seem to do it.
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