Another Woodcrest Clovertown
Jan 28, 2007
server is all decided on. Now the processors are my last choice before picking a colo.
But the processors are confusing. There are other posts on here talking about the Dempsey, Woodcrest and the Clovertown. The research I have done on this has told me to stay away from the Dempsey. So not I need to decide between the Woodcrest 5150 (2x 2.0G) and the Clovertown E5320 (4x 1.86G).
Can someone shed some light on this two and explain in plain English which one would be the better of the two? I have read where some people say the Woodcrest would be the better choice and others say the Clovertown would be the better choice. We know the Clovertown has 4 cores and the Woodcrest has 2 cores.
Could someone explain which would be the better choice and why that would be the better choice?
Just saying it had 4 cores does not always mean it is better from what I haver read.
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Sep 24, 2007
I'm planning on getting a new dedicated server from SoftLayer. I'm interested in the Xeon 5100 or 5300 series. Which one is better:
Dual Processor Quad Core Xeon 5310 - 1.60GHz (Clovertown) - 2 x 8MB cache
or
Dual Processor Dual Core Xeon 5140 - 2.33GHz (Woodcrest) - 2 x 4MB cache
Both cost the same.
Also, I heard that Apache is capable of taking advantage of multi-core processors (such as the dual proc quad core Clovertown) but that cPanel does not compile Apache in a correct way for it to function properly (efficient) on such machines. Is this true? Can this be solved? Does this mean I have to compile Apache manually?
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May 11, 2007
When it comes to CPUs I am pretty clueless, so excuse any silly comments here.
I am little confused by the performance benefits vs price of quad core and duale core processors. I am hoping some of you experts can clarify this for me.
For example, on newegg they have the following:
Intel Xeon 5160 Woodcrest 3.0GHz for $877
and the
Intel Xeon E5345 Clovertown 2.33GHz for $879
Now though the Clovertown has a lower processing speed, I get to run 4 processes simultaneously and have an aggregate total processing power of 9.32 ghz.
On the other hand, the Woodcrest proc allows me to run 2 processes simultaneously and I have an aggregate total processing power of 6 ghz.
Now I am probably reading this wrong, but why would you purchase the woodcrest when the price is essentially the same and benefits are much greater?
On a last note, do programs such as mysql and apache 1.3 take advantage of the multiprocessors?
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Feb 29, 2008
I am not such a server savy. But i hope to see your answer to this.
I ordered a server from IWEB.
Their consultant was cool and offered me a deal.
I was offered
2x Dual Xeon Quad Core Clovertown 1.6Ghz
4 gig ram
2x500 hd
RAID 1
1500 GB banwith
Cpanel/WHM + centos 5
auto rebort port
But when i got the server it said:
Dual Xeon Harpertown 2.0GHz
the rest was the same.
Now my question to you all fine folks is
Is Dual Xeon Harpertown 2.0GHz a quad core?
and if so is it better then the 2x Dual Xeon Quad Core Clovertown 1.6Ghz?
I did look for info and saw that hapertown was newer then clowertown, but i am lost here.
Please help me understand in details about the differences. Their consultant says its a QUAD core, but in email it does not say Dual Xeon Harpertown 2.0GHz and that its alot better then the clovertown he first offered me which was a quad core..
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Apr 19, 2009
which CPU architecture is better? Clovertown 5335 or Nehalem 5504? Both are running on 2 GHz (8 cores).
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May 10, 2007
whether I should go with the Xeon 3060 or the Clovertown 5310. Both come with 2GB RAM, the 5310 costs $44 more. But then I don't think I can fully utilize all the resources. Would the extra $44 be better spent towards upgrading the memory to 4GB? It's $50 for another 2GB.
So it's Xeon 3060 with 4GB of RAM VS. Clovertown 5310 with 2GB of RAM for about the same price.
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Apr 23, 2008
Im thinking about make littel upgrade. At this time I have Intel Xeon Dual CPU Dual Core Woodcrest 5160 3.0GHz w/4MB L2 cache and I wolud like to change them to: Dual Xeon E5405 Quad Core (Harpertown). The price and other server parameters are almoust the same. When
I change server I will be have better performance?
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Aug 18, 2008
Does anyone have an opinion on the Intel Dual Xeon Quad Core Clovertown versus the AMD Dual Core Dual Opteron? I'm assuming the Xeon is better. I recently put in an order for one, and I'm hoping I made the right decision (Yes I know it would have made more sense to ask before ordering but that's not how I roll) .
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Jun 21, 2008
i think to buy a dedicated which processor is better,
for big vbulletin and medium php/mysql sites
1- Intel Xeon Dual CPU Dual Core Woodcrest 5160 3.0GHz w/4MB L2 Cache Per Core
2 - Quad Core Xeon X3353 Processor 2x6M Cache, 2.66GHz, 1333MHz
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Apr 7, 2008
I understand that the woodcrest is a better processor. Just want people's opinions if it justifies the price.
Here are the configurations we are looking at:
Dual Xeon 3.2 SCSI
2GB of RAM
2 x 73GB SCSI Disk
Cpanel
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$222
or
Dual Intel Woodcrest 5130 Dual Core
4GB of RAM
2 x 146GB, 10K RPM SCSI
cpanel
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$385.00
We host approx 100 sites on a server. 60% are static sites and 40% are ecommerce or sites with a database. Just curious if the performance increase will justify the price on the woodcrest vs the xeon.
Also is $385 a good deal for this setup?
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Feb 6, 2007
I was talking to a friend tonight and he mentioned that CentOS 32 bit may not support dual Woodcrest 5150 2.66GHZ chips.
I was wondering if there is anyone out there that is using CentOS 32 bit version and is running with 2x Woodcrest 5150 chips or even one of them. I would like to put this myth to rest (I hope) before I have CentOS installed on my server.
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Mar 21, 2008
Its been asked many times, please help me decide a new server and we'll keep this topic limited between only 3 configs in question.
I've been using 2 dedicated servers
2.8Ghz dual xeon.
Now its time for a new one. Iam going with Softlayer this time and need your kind suggestion for which of these can handle a good amount of shared hosting traffic.
A).Dual Processor Single Core Xeon - 3.00GHz (Irwindale) - 2 x 2MB cache - HT
Second Processor
Single Core Xeon - 3.00GHz (Irwindale) - 2 x 2MB cache - HT second_processor
B). Processor Dual Core Xeon 5130 - 2.00GHz (Woodcrest) - 1 x 4MB cache
C).Single Processor Quad Core Xeon 3220 - 2.40GHz (Kentsfield) - 2 x 4MB cache
My choice is (A) the Irwindale one.
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Oct 16, 2007
We are using the SC512L-260B chassis for our lower end machines, what is a good recommendation for say Dual Opteron or Dual Woodcrest servers?
Looking 1U that will handle 2 drives, but would also like a recommendation for going with 4 drives (would this require 2U?). Hot swap not necessary.
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Aug 14, 2007
wondering in general and specifically for woodcrest vs conroe and kentsfield vs clovertown
I can't find either
a) an explanation as to why the server cpu's are superior to the desktop equivilents
or
b) benchmarks comparing them.
even mainstream hardware sites like tomshardware has benchmarks for server hdd's, but not server cpu's for some reason.
apart from the ability to use dual cpu's in a single machine, what is the advantage? what warrants the price difference? are there benchmarks available anywhere to compare comparable models? (example, woodcrest xeon 5150 2.66ghz vs conroe c2d e6700 2.66ghz)
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