UCEPROTECT-Level3

Aug 7, 2008

Just wondering what problems a listing here will cause for emails
[url]and it is Level 3.

rejected emails to some or all other networks?

This is for a Data Center's IP ranges, they have advised the cause was 2 of their customers with 6 servers which all contained multiple IP classes on each server caused this and are saying to wait 7 days before the listings will clear.

I do not believe they will pay the express removal, not sure if they even knew about the listing until it was pointed out to them.

Details from site..

What means listed at UCEPROTECT-Level 3?

GAME OVER. We and our users have seen enough spam and heared all possible excusions why some lazy providers think to be not responsible for what their customers are doing.

We are not just another blacklist. We really know better. Massive spam is always a problem tolerated by the provider.

Your abuser / user ratio is exorbitant high. We expect some minimum standards from soneone claiming to be a professional provider.

Due to the facts that you do not reach our standards, we and many of our users have chosen to no longer allow smtp-traffic from all your IP's and ranges. See above what we are willig to tolerate as a maximum by an provider of your size.

In todays Internet it is no longer acceptable to sit down and wait for abuse to happen.

If you want to become an accepted provider with a good reputation, you will have to install preventive measures.

Click here to see what you can do to prevent spam coming from your ranges.

If you think it is not your job to prevent your IP's flooding the world with spams, we hope that you and your users will enjoy your Intranet.

How can our total ip-space be removed from UCEPROTECT-Level 3?

You can not expect to get a free ride because you are the provider. Our standard removal procedures are also valid for you.

After you have fixed the problems, the UCEPROTECT-Level 3 listing will be removed automatically and free of charge as soon as the causal Level 1 listings will expire.

Every IP listed at Level 1 expires 7 days after we have seen the last abusive action coming from it.

If you don't want your users to be affected up till the free expiration, you can optionally Expressdelist, which is charged a total of 250 EURO per ASN.

That is a huge discount compared to our charges for Level 2 or even Level 1 expressdelistings.

It is necessary that problems are fixed in first place, otherwise your complete IP-space might end up in Level 3 again within a short timeframe

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UCEPROTECT

Jun 15, 2009

I want to lash out on these guys for what they have going on!

Out of the 147 blacklist services out there

Do we really need the <<removed>> that is spread throughout there website?

We are not all SPammers my german friends! We are hardworking network admins etc..trying to fight spam also and when I get a nice big red blacklist its the first thing ignorant end users use to complain!

Examples:

''DO NOT EXPECT TO GET A FREE RIDE HERE! REMOVAL POLICY IS ALSO VALID FOR YOU!''
''Your provider has no interest to stop spammers, or he seems to think spam is, what the internet was made for. His IP's belong to the worst SPAMMERHEAVENS on the net, but you are also not innocent, because you support spammers by giving your money to such a sewer.''

''WARNING: SENDING MAIL TO THIS EMAILTRAP WILL RESULT IN BLACKLISTING OF YOUR IP''

These are just a few examples ...Boy if I talked to my customers like that man I wouldnt do a good business, because a business is what they are.. arent they ? I mean only 250 Euros and your removed and then even nothing garanteed

The level 3 protection is a joke and causing me personnally trouble with certain spam filters using this service... I come up ok everywhere exept for there level3 protection which is not even my problem its because of the ISP and here is what they tell me ...

from our research, we have found no company or e-mail service provider who uses this blacklist and have on several occasions contacted UCEprotect about the abuse complaints and have recived no abuse complaints from them. the only information we get from them is that they require $250 in order to remove the listing, and its unlikely to remain unblocked for very long seeing as the number of "abuse issues" they list reach well into the thousands every day. again if we had an6y sort of abuse reports being sent to us from them we would resolve the issue but since no such report has been sent, there is nothing we can do about it.

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