Definition Of Colocation Hosting

Feb 5, 2009

exact definition of colocation hosting and how it is different from dedicated hosting?

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Definition Of Good Host

Jun 8, 2009

How you label a perticular host as a good host?

is 4-5 hours downtime a month Good?

avg support ticket answer time?

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What's The REAL Definition Of A Unique

Apr 29, 2007

Got a bit of a debate going here because I have a site that is showing wildly varied results for traffic between different trackers.

The three we are watching are:

extreme paid version

awstats

webalizer

Extreme shows 70k uniques for this month while awstats is showing 16,555 then to make things even more confusing webalizer is showing 22564.

So that leads us to the question, what exactly is a unique and is there really any precise definition of how a unique should be counted. is it:

1. one unique IP visit for the whole site

2. one unique IP visit per page on the site

then on top of that we have to factor in the time frame so now is it:

1. one unique IP visit for the whole site per day

1. one unique IP visit for the whole site per month

3. one unique IP visit per page per day

4. one unique IP visit per page per month

Now some may say the above is being picky BUT how many site owners do you hear saying "I get 100,000 uniques per month". This comment alone begs for an answer to this question. I don't think I have ever heard someone come back at a comment like that with "Really, How do you count your uniques?"

With all the trackers out there and all the companies that are relying on accurate statistics to sell advertising and / or value the site this is one of THE grayest areas around ......

So again, the question is:

What the heck is the definition of a unique and for that fact is there one?

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Definition Tier-1 Bandwidth Providers

May 28, 2009

Who defines Tier 1 provider definition?

I am seeing multiple definitions and seeing various posters argue and make claims against Tier 1 and who is/who is not and how many total, etc.. I do not think that there is consensus out there. Personally, I see more than 7 Tier 1 providers and know several other very good Tier 2 or Tier 1b providers.

Many on WHT claim that there are only 6 major Tier 1 providers, but I recently had a CTO who has been in the business since 1996 tell me directly that there are 9 Tier 1 providers. I know that some providers themselves claim to be Tier 1, but many of us “know” that they are not really Tier 1.

So, who are the best Tier 1 providers out there?

Who are the best Tier2 or non-Tier 1 providers?

Who are the best providers to/in Europe? …South America?

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44U+ Colocation Value

Oct 4, 2009

Is there a "premium" for colocation space in cabinets which are taller than 42U? I'm putting some cabinets into a datacenter cage, which I will lease to 3rd parties as colocation cabinets, and there is plenty of height below the ceiling (about 290 cm). I could put in 42U cabinets, but I could go taller, up to about 48U.

The cabinets will have about 10 kW delivered to them (8 kW usable per cabinet), but the UPS is sized for an average load of 5 kW per cabinet. Cabinet depth is 1200 mm. There will be cable tray 10 cm above the cabinet.

If you were going to colo 5 kW of equipment (average) per cabinet, would 48U cabinets have value to you over 42U high cabinets?

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Colocation UK

Jan 20, 2009

I found a couple of phrases mentioning them here on WHT, both praising and negative. Can't make up my mind.

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UK Colocation

Aug 23, 2009

I'm soon going to purchasing a rack server from Dell, and have been looking into the options of basing it within the UK, as it seems best.

I've looked into the Rapid switch data centre in Berkshire, aswell as Blue square in Maidenhead.

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US Colocation?

Jun 13, 2009

I'm with is looking to colo 2 x 1RU servers in the US, so looking for suitable colo facilities.

We definitely want to buy, own and manage the servers ourselves, so we're after colo & bandwidth, not server rental.

As we're new to colo in the US, any advice or recommendations would be greatly appreciated.

Servers will be 2 x quad core CPU, 8GB RAM, 2 x SAS HDDs, 1 x PSU, so we'll obviously need a facility able to provide the required power at a reasonable cost.

We'll need 4 network points, 2 for each server (1 Internet, 1 LOM).

Bandwidth wise, we're expecting to start with low demand, but grow steadily over the next two to three years.

Ideally we're after flat rate bandwidth in the order of 512Kbps - 2 Mbps, aggregated across the network points, with no excess usage charges.

95th percentile billing is also an option, but less preferred - we'd much rather know we have a fixed monthly OpEx, instead of the unpleasant surprise of a large excess bandwidth bill!

We're happy to look at other bandwidth options, so long as they provide a fixed monthly cost, and let us scale at a reasonable price, as we need it.

We'll like a /28 of IP space - 8-10 usable, but may be able to get away with a /29 if it's the make or break decision.

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Colocation In NC

Sep 17, 2009

I am looking to colo a 1U server in a DC in North Carolina. I would need a 10Mbit line un-metered or a metered 100mbit.

I could negotiate on the bandwidth if its not possible in NC .

I have been researching for a while and the DCs here are very very expensive so far...

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US Colocation

Oct 9, 2009

I've recently acquired a 1U rack mount server from eBay. I believe it kicks some butt...and now I am thinking about looking for a colocation provider to host it for me.

It's for my own websites, not web hosting or storage. I don't need any sophisticated control panel, as I've pretty much made my own. I only need enough IP addresses to have my own name servers and one for all of my websites (I don't need each site to have a unique IP). I don't need any management help as I can manage my own servers. A simple data center control panel with the ability to hard reboot my server would be nice.

However, if the provider charges anything above $70-$80, I can just rent a dedicated server for around the same price. I know the dedicated server would not have the same features and hardware as my server, but if I'm providing the server, why should I be charged the same amount as if they were providing me with a server?

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DNS And Colocation

Apr 22, 2008

I'm trying to figure out my whole DNS situation now that I switched over to colocation. I have 2 servers, one hosts multiple sites and the other is just a backup.

I'm not sure what to do with DNS hosting. I could either host my DNS on both the servers (ns1,ns2 main server ns3,ns4 backup server). Does this mean if the main server goes down (ns1,ns2) it'll start using ns2,ns3? If so, can I just have ns2,ns3 point to my backup server IPs and traffic will just resume on the backup of the main server goes down?

If I go with a service like DNSMadeEasy.com, can I just point my main domain's name servers to ns1.dnsmadeeasy.com, ns2, ns3, etc.. and then point all my other domain's name servers back to my main domain OR would I have to point all my individual domains to dnsmadeeasy's name servers?

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New To Colocation

Jan 8, 2008

I have several servers on datacenters.

I was wondering, I always did, that is would be so much nicer to own the hardware. I looked for colocation prices in the past but the prices where allot higher then to rent from a datacenter.

Is this really so?

Is best to buy the hardware and send it to a colocation service or to rent a specific harware.

The colocation prices are normally per Mbit, that means there is not montly GB limits, you can go as fast a the switch allows?

How can you test if you are really getting the speed, any guarantee.

Also what happens if a hard disk fails? Do you have to buy one on overnight and send it to the datacenter? They will charge you for installation i suppose.

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Colocation In The UK

Jul 1, 2008

We are looking for reviews of colocation companies offering quarter racks at BlueSquare, or another data centre in the south of England. We are based in Dorset and as far as we can tell the nearest data centres are in Bournemouth (not open yet), Southampton (don't know too much about those) and Maidenhead (BlueSquare, where we currently colocate a couple of 1U servers).

Companies we have been considering are connexions4london, a1isp and netrino but we are a bit short on information about their reputations. Reliability is the single most important thing to us, we are not necessarily looking for the cheapest, but for somebody with a good history of service level.

Can anybody tell us about their experiences with any of these companies? I heard about some trouble with Netrino last year but nothing recent, and also a that a1isp use netrino, can anybody confirm or deny that? We have also spoken extensively with connexions4london but we would have to sign up for at least a year - which we would be happy to do if we knew their service was great.

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Colocation

Jan 29, 2007

I have a few questions which I'd like answered if possible.

Firstly, I understand 1U is the space in the rank etc etc -- my question is, does one server usually fill up one 1U?

What is meant by premium bandwidth? is that a type of bandwidth charge? is there any other types?

What is meant by 5mbps?

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What Is Colocation?

Jun 7, 2008

could anyone explain to me what colocation is?

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Colocation

Jul 14, 2007

with a decent article as to what colocation is? I have been looking and havn't been able to determine it. I'm trying to do some research as to why my web host is being .... difficult.

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Colocation 1U For $100/mo

Oct 24, 2007

I've been noticing always that colocation seems to be much more expensive then with leased dedicated servers, especially when it comes to the A). connection size and B). transfer bandwidth given to you. So has anyone seen good colocation pricing (anywhere in the US or Canada) that has these specs? Leased dedicated servers are at these low of prices, so why not colo?

1U Server around $100 to $150 /mo: 1000-2500 GB (or unmetered) Bandwidth Transfer each month
10Mbps or 100Mbps connection (not 1Mbps).

Anyone seen any $500 to $1500 /mo. for a full cabinet with these specs:

Full Cabinet / Rack (20 Amps or 40 Amps): Unmetered Bandwidth Transfer each month
10Mbps or 100Mbps connection (not 1Mbps).

When dedicated server places like softlayer say that your server is on 10Mbps or 100Mbps, does this mean it is 10Mbps shared among many servers or is it dedicated with your server? Many colocation facilities quote prices with 1Mbps dedicated for the prices I mention above.

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Colocation In AMS-IX

Jul 24, 2007

I've been using dedicated servers for past 2 years.

I'm a Usenet reseller moving to setting up Usenet Provider.

For Usenet peering with two residents in AMS-IX, I probably require a cross-connect, require at least 4u space with at least 50Mbit. All I can find is companies like Ohtele.com and true.nl who have a "presence" there with IP transit, what exactly does that mean? If I wanted a cross-connect to an AMS-IX resident, my server(s) must also be in that datacenter, correct?

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What Is Colocation

Nov 6, 2007

Lately I hv found many reference on colocation. What is meant by that?

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Getting Into Colocation

Feb 22, 2007

A friend of mine gave me a brand new machine he got from work. Its a medium sized desktop case, p4 2.8ghz, 1.5GB of ram, and 2x 40GB IDE Hardrives. Its not anything special, the ram is DDR and the proccessor is the old socket 478.

I am thinking about co-locating this machine. My home computer has much better parts then it so it is useless to keep at home. I already have a laptop as well as my PC so I don't need a second computer at my home either.

I have looked at some co-location prices, sent out a few emails and it looks more expensive then getting a dedicated server from the company. I thought co-location was cheaper then a dedicated server, but it seems like I am finding different.

This server is going to be used to host a few websites of mine, as well as be used to host a gameserver or two. I don't have a problem being a system administrator, I am currently managing my VPS as well as my friends dedicated server.

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New To Colocation

May 3, 2007

I am hosting a commercial website that is consuming about 1.5Mbp/s of bandwidth on a monthly basis (95th. %). The site consists of (6) 1U Dell servers. I am currently seeking a colo provider in the downtown NYC area where I can rent a 1/4 rack. I am looking for a very reputable provider, but don't necessarily need the "gold standard" in colo providers as cost is definitely a factor.

My questions are as follows:

1. What is the general range of pricing that I should expect for a 1/4 rack at say 2Mbp/s of bandwidth? I have been getting quotes from around $500 to $1000, but wansn't sure exactly how to evaluate them.

2. Do I need to purchase a rack-mount keyboard/monitor drawer, or does the colo facility usually provide a cart or similar?

3. Is is better in the long run for me to provide my own firewall/vpn solution or is this something that the colo facility would typically provide for me?

4. With regard to DNS, is this normally a colo provided service or am I better off using a 3rd. party service. If the latter, any recommendations?

5. Any recommendations for quality colo providers in the downtown NYC area?

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UK Colocation

Mar 16, 2007

I currently have Dedicated servers here and there with different companies but one of my sites is out growing its current setup and is growing at a rapid rate so its going to get expensive to run if i just have multiple dedicated servers so I have started to look into colocation.

The down side to colocation for me or from what I have seen is Limited Support compared to dedicated support.

However I do pay a company that will help me with the upkeep of my servers and will advise me on what I need so really now im looking at prices.

To start with I will be looking to host:

2X

Dell PowerEdge 1850 1u
2x Xeon 3.4hz 1m cache
2gb Ram (2x 1gb dimms)
2x 146gb U320 hot swap drives
Raid
CD Drive
Floppy Drive
2x Gigabit Ethernet

**Anyone have a price on a server same spec as above?**

Now I would prefer to find someone who provides the following but if not then could point me in the right direction to purchase:

(Hardware must be able to handle atleast 8 servers of the above spec as I see me expanding to this within 6 months to 1 year)

Switch
KVM
Remote Reboot
Firewall

**Anyone have a price on the hardware above? must handle atleast 8 servers**

Bandwidth - 100mbit

I would say I would like around 2,000gb bandwidth per server

So to start with that would be approx 4,000gb as I would be hosting 2 servers.

Support:

I would like to try and find a host that offers a fair amount of hardware support

I think for the moment thats about all im looking for advice / prices on.

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What Exactly Is Colocation

May 28, 2007

what colocation is? I know its cheaper than a box but what happens if you purchase this?

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UK Colocation...

Oct 17, 2007

Can I have some suggestions/recomendations of colocation facilities in the Reading area or more generally in Berkshire?

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Colocation

Feb 21, 2007

I got an old 1u rackmount server off ebay to use as a home server for some small programs and to test on. Its a Compaq DL360 G1.

CoreNetworks has 1u colocation with 1 TB of bandwidth, remote reboot, and IP KVM access for only $17.95 a month. I was thinking about getting this when they start selling it, but this would be my first server to colocate and I had a few questions.

The server came with rails to mount it on, but would I need to send these also? Or would the datacenter provide their own rails? The server has screws on each side to attach to the rails.
Picture: here

Also, would I just need to pack up the server and ship it? Nothing else is needed?

I know these questions probably seem silly, but I'm new to colocation.

(And please don't post about how they could never sell colocation for $18. I'm not asking about the company )

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Colocation

Jul 2, 2007

I just got a free 2U Dell PowerEdge 2550 server, and I'm thinking about colocating it. A buddy of mine got three for free and offered me one. Of course I took it .

I've had a few dedicated servers in the past with Sagonet, but I'm totally new to colocation. I'd imagine that colocation is cheaper than getting a dedicated server since I'm providing the hardware, but after doing some preliminary research, this doesn't seem to be the case.

I'm a college student, so probably the most I could dish out would be $50/month. I'm not sure if this is even possible. I'm looking for a data center in the MA/NH area.

Anyone have any advice or suggestions as to a data center or reseller where this may be possible? I certainly don't want this server to go to waste sitting in my basement.

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Cheap UK Colocation?

Jul 19, 2007

Im thinking of buying my own server, i need a cheap mid range spec server, where can i get a decent priced one? or maybe a empty chassis..

then id like a decent priced colo, i looked at 49pence there cheap give 3000gb bw and unlimited IP on ripe justification. but there support isnt for me. they dont seem to listen. if anyone has any ideas on where i can find these 2 things please let me know.

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Colocation In Greenville, SC

Apr 20, 2008

Hi there. I am looking for a colocation provider in Greenville, SC and I have found NuVox. I was wondering if anyone had any information about this company, as well as if this is a good price.

They said the service would be:

1/3 Open Rack space - $250.00/month
Bandwidth - $65.00/month/Mb

Does this seem like a good deal? I'm willing to pay a little more than average because I really like that I live less than 2 mile away from them.

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Colocation And Bandwidth

Jan 18, 2007

Colocation and the pricing for bandwidth is so confusing. Just when I think I understand it I get even more confused.

Here is what I have learned. 1MBPS is equal to 324GB a month.

How can a company charge $159 for 2500GB of bandwidth and then charge $350 for 1MBPS? This does not make sense.

Is like say teh following

324GB cost $350
2500GB cost $159

Hmm, am I missing something here?

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Firewall For Colocation

Jul 20, 2007

I'm moving from 10 dedicated server to colocation.

Our setup is as follow:

- 2 HP DL365
- san storage based on EMC Ax150i (iscsi) with 6x500Gb sata disks
- 3 D-Link DGS-3024 ethernet switch
- virtualization based on Xen 3.x and RedHat 5 Advanced Platform
- 100Mbps bandwidth from the datacenter and a /24 network subnet

I'm looking for a layer 3 firewall, I'm inetersted in Cisco ASA series 5505 or 5510 models. Someone as experience with this firewall?

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