IIS Or Apache
Jan 8, 2008im starting my first steps 4 web development using Mysql & Php but im confused a little bit about the Web Server Software ive Windows XP & sepported IIS but i dont know what 2use IIS or Apache?
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Apache :: Capturing Internal Apache Errors Return Custom HTTP Status
Nov 15, 2013Server Version: Apache/2.2.22 (Unix)
On our production service, we've been getting numerous malformed POST requests to some of our CGI scripts that are showing up as 500 errors in our logs. They are malformed in the sense that the actual content length doesn't match the Content-Length specified in the request.
Here's the most trivial example I can come up with that reproduces the problem for us:
POST /some_valid_alias HTTP/1.1
Host: example.org
User-Agent: Arbitrary/1.0
Content-Type: multipart/form-data; boundary=---------------------------41184676334
Content-Length: 769
-----------------------------41184676334
In addition to the 500 error in the access log, we see the corresponding error in the error log:
(70014)End of file found: Error reading request entity data
Based on the nature of the POST request and the error response, it does appear that Apache is doing the right thing here.
The POST never actually makes it as far as the script being targeted (/some_valid_alias in the above example); in other words, Apache returns 500 to the client, writes the error to the error log and never executes the script.
Is there a way to capture/avoid internal Apache errors like 70014, and return some other HTTP status besides 500 (like 403)? It's particularly annoying in our case, because our server sends us an email for all 500 errors.
So far, our best "defense" against these 500 errors is to disallow POST for these aliases, which normally just ignore the POST data anyway (when the request is not malformed):
RewriteCond %{REQUEST_METHOD} ^POST$
RewriteRule ^/(some_valid_alias)(.*)$ $1$2 [R]
But this won't work for all our scripts, because in some cases we do want to permit POST.
Apache Procs Constantly Rise, Until Apache Is Restarted
Jul 23, 2007I've had this problem a long time now with my hosting network and decided to ask here hoping I get some good solutions, or if someone is willing to looking at this (I'll pay if they want).
Here's what I mean:
[url]
Problem is as you can see apache processes constantly rise infinitely, at least until I restart apache (/etc/init.d/httpd restart). The point of restart is shown in red lines.
And after restart, it goes down again for X amount of hours then eventually rises again infinitely until it's restarted again.
But the fact that after restart it remains down, it means it had the potential to be down all along.
So my question is: what could be causing this and does anyone have solution to keep them low at all times (as per graphs)?
Increasing The Apache ServerLimit In Apache 2.2.8 Version.
May 28, 2008The Linux Server got down when the MaxClients 256 is reached.
Error Log:
"server reached MaxClients setting, consider raising the MaxClients setting"
So that I have tried to increased the MaxClients Value to 500, after changed the value in httpd.conf and restart I get following error message.
" [notice] SIGHUP received. Attempting to restart
WARNING: MaxClients of 500 exceeds ServerLimit value of 256 servers,
lowering MaxClients to 256. To increase, please see the ServerLimit
directive."
So that I tried changed the Server limit in /usr/local/apache/include/httpd.h header file. but it seems like there is no entry.
Apache Version : 2.2.8
So I have added the ServerLimit 500 entry in httpd.conf file and restart the httpd service. But still shows the same warning mesg. Please help me regarding this.
We have the Dedicated server for Flash Game Server with following configuration.
RHEL4 OS
2GB RAM
Intel(R) Xeon(R) X3210 @ 2.13GHz
Cpanel Installed.
Apache 2.2.8
PHP 5.2.4
MySQL 4.1.2 (MySQL Server is working in differend server)
.htaccess Issue With Apache 1.3, But Works On Apache 2.2
Mar 22, 2008I have the following Apache redirect code in .htaccess:
RewriteRule ^sap-latest-news/([0-9]*)/([A-Za-z0-9_-.]*).htm$ /domain.com/app/modules/content/latestNews.php?id=$1 [L]
This redirect works fine on Apache 2.2.8, but doesn't work on Apache 1.3.41
The following is the entry from error_log:
RewriteRule: cannot compile regular expression '^sap-latest-news/([0-9]*)/([A-Za-z0-9_-.]*).htm$'
A simple Rewrite is working fine in Apache 1.3, but the above regualar expression doesn't seem to be working on Apache 1.3. Does anyone know whether Apache 1.3 doesn't support it?
Installed Apache And PHP Only Seeing Default Apache Page
Jun 1, 2007I am having an issue where I have a server that Directadmin is installed on. I go to the a url that is on the server and all i see is the default page of apache saying congrats, it is installed. Although there is no file like that in the public_html any longer and I can see my files in the public_html folder of that specific site.
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Jan 3, 2008I've been searching around with google regarding how to downgrade the Apache 2.2 which comes with CentOS 5 to Apache 1.3.39.
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Jan 12, 2008I'm building a new server for a predominantly php5/mysql5 website and was wondering which version of apache to put on. I know there are some issues with PHP and Apache in MPM, but what's the performance comparison between Apache 1.3 and Apache 2 Prefork?
View 4 Replies View RelatedCan Not Compile Htppd Apache Because Of Apache APR
Aug 6, 2008I am trying to install dedicated web server on my Slackware 12.0.0 machine. I am a novice in Linux, but succeeded in MySQL & proFTPd installation. The problem now in httpd compiling.
I downloaded the latest Apache 2.2.9, but it needs Apache Portable Runtime 1.3.2 installed. I downloaded 1.3.2 version and run ./configure
1. checking size of size_t... 4
2. checking which format to use for apr_size_t... %u
3. checking size of off_t... 4
4. checking for mmap64... yes
5. checking for sendfile64... yes
6. checking for sendfilev64... no
7. checking for mkstemp64... yes
8. checking for readdir64_r... yes
9. checking which type to use for apr_off_t... off64_t
10. checking whether ino_t and unsigned long are the same... yes
11. configure: using unsigned long for ino_t
12. checking size of pid_t... 4
13. checking whether byte ordering is bigendian... no
14. checking size of struct iovec... 8
15. checking for strnicmp... no
16. checking for strncasecmp... yes
17. checking for stricmp... no
18. checking for strcasecmp... yes
19. checking for strdup... yes
20. checking for strstr... yes
21. checking for memchr... yes
22. checking for strtoll... yes
23.
24. Checking for DSO...
25. checking for dlopen... no
26. checking for dlopen in -ldl... yes
27. adding "-ldl" to LIBS
28. checking for dlsym... yes
29.
30. Checking for Processes...
31. checking for waitpid... yes
32. checking for Variable Length Arrays... yes
33. checking struct rlimit... yes
34.
35. Checking for Locking...
36. checking for semget... yes
37. checking for semctl... yes
38. checking for flock... yes
39. checking for semaphore.h... (cached) yes
40. checking OS.h usability... no
41. checking OS.h presence... no
42. checking for OS.h... no
43. checking for library containing sem_open... none required
44. checking for sem_close... yes
45. checking for sem_unlink... yes
46. checking for sem_post... yes
47. checking for sem_wait... yes
48. checking for create_sem... no
49. checking for working sem_open... yes
50. checking for union semun in sys/sem.h... no
51. checking for LOCK_EX in sys/file.h... yes
52. checking for F_SETLK in fcntl.h... yes
53. checking for SEM_UNDO in sys/sem.h... yes
54. checking for POLLIN in poll.h sys/poll.h... yes
55. checking for PTHREAD_PROCESS_SHARED in pthread.h... yes
56. checking for pthread_mutexattr_setpshared... yes
57. checking for working PROCESS_SHARED locks... yes
58. checking for robust cross-process mutex support... yes
59. decision on apr_lock implementation method... SysV IPC semget()
60. checking if all interprocess locks affect threads... no
61. checking if POSIX sems affect threads in the same process... no
62. checking if SysV sems affect threads in the same process... no
63. checking if fcntl locks affect threads in the same process... no
64. checking if flock locks affect threads in the same process... no
65. checking for entropy source... /dev/urandom
66.
67. Checking for File Info Support...
68. checking for struct stat.st_blocks... yes
69. checking for struct stat.st_atimensec... no
70. checking for struct stat.st_ctimensec... no
71. checking for struct stat.st_mtimensec... no
72. checking for struct stat.st_atim.tv_nsec... yes
73. checking for struct stat.st_ctim.tv_nsec... yes
74. checking for struct stat.st_mtim.tv_nsec... yes
75. checking for struct stat.st_atime_n... no
76. checking for struct stat.st_ctime_n... no
77. checking for struct stat.st_mtime_n... no
78. checking for inode member of struct dirent... d_fileno
79. checking for file type member of struct dirent... d_type
80.
81. Checking for OS UUID Support...
82. checking uuid.h usability... no
83. checking uuid.h presence... no
84. checking for uuid.h... no
85. checking uuid/uuid.h usability... yes
86. checking uuid/uuid.h presence... yes
87. checking for uuid/uuid.h... yes
88. checking for library containing uuid_create... no
89. checking for library containing uuid_generate... -luuid
90. checking for uuid_create... no
91. checking for uuid_generate... yes
92. checking for os uuid usability... yes
93.
94. Checking for Time Support...
95. checking for struct tm.tm_gmtoff... yes
96. checking for struct tm.__tm_gmtoff... no
97.
98. Checking for Networking support...
99. checking for type in_addr... yes
100. checking if fd == socket on this platform... yes
101. checking style of gethostbyname_r routine... glibc2
102. checking 3rd argument to the gethostbyname_r routines... char
103. checking style of getservbyname_r routine... glibc2
104. checking if TCP_NODELAY setting is inherited from listening sockets... yes
105. checking if O_NONBLOCK setting is inherited from listening sockets... no
106. checking whether TCP_NODELAY and TCP_CORK can both be enabled... yes
107. checking for TCP_CORK in netinet/tcp.h... yes
108. checking for TCP_NOPUSH in netinet/tcp.h... no
109. checking for SO_ACCEPTFILTER in sys/socket.h... no
110. checking whether SCTP is supported... no
111. checking for struct ip_mreq... yes
112. checking for set_h_errno... no
113.
114. Checking for IPv6 Networking support...
115. checking for library containing getaddrinfo... none required
116. checking for library containing gai_strerror... none required
117. checking for library containing getnameinfo... none required
118. checking for gai_strerror... yes
119. checking for working getaddrinfo... yes
120. checking for negative error codes for getaddrinfo... yes
121. checking for working getnameinfo... yes
122. checking for sockaddr_in6... yes
123. checking for sockaddr_storage... yes
124. checking for working AI_ADDRCONFIG... yes
125. checking if APR supports IPv6... yes
126. checking langinfo.h usability... yes
127. checking langinfo.h presence... yes
128. checking for langinfo.h... yes
129. checking for nl_langinfo... yes
130.
131. Restore user-defined environment settings...
132. restoring CPPFLAGS to ""
133. setting EXTRA_CPPFLAGS to "-DLINUX=2 -D_REENTRANT -D_GNU_SOURCE -D_LARGEFILE64_SOURCE"
134. restoring CFLAGS to ""
135. setting EXTRA_CFLAGS to "-g -O2 -pthread"
136. restoring LDFLAGS to ""
137. setting EXTRA_LDFLAGS to ""
138. restoring LIBS to ""
139. setting EXTRA_LIBS to "-luuid -lrt -lcrypt -lpthread -ldl"
140. restoring INCLUDES to ""
141. setting EXTRA_INCLUDES to ""
142. configure: creating ./config.status
143. config.status: creating Makefile
144. config.status: creating include/apr.h
145. config.status: creating build/apr_rules.mk
146. config.status: creating build/pkg/pkginfo
147. config.status: creating apr--config
148. config.status: WARNING: 'apr-config.in' seems to ignore the --datarootdir setting
149. config.status: creating apr.pc
150. config.status: creating test/Makefile
151. config.status: creating test/internal/Makefile
152. config.status: creating include/arch/unix/apr_private.h
153. config.status: executing default commands
154. config.status: include/apr.h is unchanged
155. config.status: include/arch/unix/apr_private.h is unchanged
After that I am trying make and have error at the end:
make[1]: Entering directory `/root/build/apr-1.3.2'
/bin/sh /root/build/apr-1.3.2/libtool --silent --mode=link gcc -g -O2 -pthread -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -DLINUX=2 -D_REENTRANT -D_GNU_SOURCE -.....
Apache Down In The Middle Of Recompiling Apache (via Whm)
Nov 12, 2008In the middle of recompiling apache (via whm) after upgrading postgresql to 8.3, apache went down and remains down even after restart. Recompile is still in progress (about 15 minutes in)
tail -f /usr/local/apache/logs/error_log
[Wed Nov 12 15:24:44 2008] [warn] No JkShmFile defined in httpd.conf. Using default /usr/local/apache/logs/jk-runtime-status
[Wed Nov 12 15:24:44 2008] [notice] ModSecurity for Apache/2.5.7 (http://www.modsecurity.org/) configured.
[Wed Nov 12 15:24:46 2008] [warn] No JkShmFile defined in httpd.conf. Using default /usr/local/apache/logs/jk-runtime-status
[Wed Nov 12 15:24:46 2008] [alert] getpwuid: couldn't determine user name from uid 4294967295, you probably need to modify the User directive
[Wed Nov 12 15:24:46 2008] [alert] getpwuid: couldn't determine user name from uid 4294967295, you probably need to modify the User directive
[Wed Nov 12 15:24:46 2008] [alert] getpwuid: couldn't determine user name from uid 4294967295, you probably need to modify the User directive
[Wed Nov 12 15:24:46 2008] [alert] getpwuid: couldn't determine user name from uid 4294967295, you probably need to modify the User directive
[Wed Nov 12 15:24:46 2008] [alert] getpwuid: couldn't determine user name from uid 4294967295, you probably need to modify the User directive
[Wed Nov 12 15:24:46 2008] [notice] Apache/2.2.10 (Unix) mod_ssl/2.2.10 OpenSSL/0.9.7a mod_auth_passthrough/2.1 mod_bwlimited/1.4 FrontPage/5.0.2.2635 mod_jk/1.2.25 PHP/5.2.6 configured -- resuming normal operations
[Wed Nov 12 15:24:46 2008] [alert] Child 22588 returned a Fatal error... Apache is exiting!
httpd configtest
Syntax OK
ps -ef | grep ^httpd (no result)
Cpanel/Centos
Apache 1.3 And PHP4 With Apache 2.2 And PHP5
Jun 1, 2008I have apache 1.3 and PHP 4.4 installed on my CentOS 4.4
Can I install apache 2.2 and PHP 5.x on the same server? I want to test my scripts for compatibility and also to check the performance.
I dont want to break my current setup because it's a production server.
Apache 1 Or Apache 2 , All Else Being Equal
Nov 13, 2008if you were to be presented with a choice to run Apache 1 or Apache 2 given you'd have more or less the same support requests etc, and the same underlying user requirements to implement either one or the other, which one would you choose and why?
I noticed that Hsphere Parallels control panel 3.2 release as may well other control panels, offers such possibility. Personally I've been educated from senior members of previous organizations to appreciate Apache 1 as the defacto version of the web hosting industry (choice here being apache 1 and 2, not IIS or any other web servers)
Could you kindly simply attempt to enlighten me given, indeed support for both will/might remain the same in the future?
Apache :: IIS 7.5 And Apache 2.4.4 Not Working Together
Jun 25, 2013 I am facing while upgrading the current Apache version 2.2.11 to Apache 2.4.4. IIS 7.5 on Windows Web Server 2008 R2 is not redirecting requests to the Apache 2.4.4 which is on Windows Server 2003 R2. I checked the access and error logs of Apache 2.4.4 and there is no entry. The existing 2.2.11 is working completely fine with IIS 7.5. IIS is working as a load balancer in my environment, takes the https requests and forwards that to Apache, then it goes to the App servers. Here, self signed certificate is used between the Load balancer and the Web server.
I have followed exact same configuration as it was used in Apache 2.2.11 but installed it with a different port (444), later changed it to 443 before running Apache 2.4.4 as a service, turning off the Apache 2.2.11 service. And also, my Apache 2.4.4 is working completely fine when I access it through the Web Server level URL (through the server machine name). But it throws me an error 502 when I hit the Load Balancer level URL. Here is the complete error:
"502 - Web server received an invalid response while acting as a gateway or proxy server. There is a problem with the page you are looking for, and it cannot be displayed. When the Web server (while acting as a gateway or proxy)contacted the upstream content server, it received an invalid response from the content server."
how I can solve the issue? I am stuck with this portion for about 2 weeks now, it's really urgent to get it solved!
My observation that came through lots of trial and error, I believe that this has something to do with Windows registry!! I came to this conclusion as I uninstalled the existing Apache 2.2.11 and installed it back again, it throws me the same error that I am getting for Apache 2.4.4. Then, I matched it with the other web server, found out some differences in the registry created for 2.2.11 and changed in this one accordingly- now 2.2.11 worked fine in this web server.
ASP.NET On Apache
Jul 9, 2007I need to run asp.net on apache does anyone know how i can set this up ....
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Jan 4, 2009I currently have a dedicated server running centOS5 and webmin. With help of folks here
I was able to bind additional IP numbers using webmin.
I have a small problem now. The idea of binding the IPs was so that I could create "true port 80" shoutcast connections on the new IP numbers. However, when I try this I am taken to the control panel home page (home page to that server). The config on the shoutcast server is set properly (using proper IP #) as I have been able to listen to a stream using the new ip number's (higher ports), but not the main IP number.
My questions, I hope, are simple.
1. Am I able to use these additional IP numbers for Shoutcast Port 80 (true port 80 - only one per IP #)?
2. If yes, do I have to make Apache use ONLY my main IP number, thereby releasing the others for Port 80 use? If so, how do I do this.
Apache 2.2.14 Vs 1.3.41
Oct 20, 2009I am trying to decide on upgrading our Apache version from 1.3.41 to 2.2.14.
From what I can tell 2.2 is MUCH faster, but I have seen many reports of 2.* version crashing more frequently than 1.3.
Does anyone have some solid information on the reliability of 1.3.41 vs 2.2.14?
Also, any other items I may love/miss from upgrading?
We are running php4 (default) + 5.
Apache 2.2.11 Vs Apache Apache 2.0.63
Jun 22, 2009i am using 2.0.63 version and already having high load issue becoz of apache so should i have to upgrade to new version 2.2.11 ? is new versin liter as compared 2.0.63 please suggest what should i do know i am running a forum on the server.
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Feb 22, 2008all i have a vps
i have a problem my apache redirect sites in same directory
my apache2.conf OS debian3.1
Code:
<VirtualHost 62.75.152.217:80>
ServerAdmin info@hideyourtracks.org
DocumentRoot /home/hideyourtracks
ServerName hideyourtracks.us
ServerAlias hideyourtracks.us
TransferLog /var/log/hideyourtracks_access.log
ErrorLog /var/log/hideyourtracks_error.log
<Directory "/home/hideyourtracks">
allow from all
Options +Indexes
</Directory>
</VirtualHost>
<VirtualHost 62.75.152.217:80>
ServerAdmin info@nopremium.org
DocumentRoot /home/nopremium
ServerName nopremium.org
ServerAlias nopremium.org
TransferLog /var/log/nopremium.org_access.log
ErrorLog /var/log/nopremium.org_error.log
<Directory "/home/nopremium">
allow from all
Options +Indexes
</Directory>
</VirtualHost>
Apache 2.0 Or 2.2
May 5, 2008Which version is more suitable for shared hosting with cPanel?
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Jan 10, 2008configuring servers but have a very big website I want to put a new box I'm building, but am not sure if I should install Apache 1.3.xx or 2.xx. I see a TON of web hosts still use Apache 1.3.xx, but it seems that most books now a days say to install Apache 2.xx.
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May 21, 2008what is the best, most secure, and fastest Apache version right now?
I have Apache 1.x installed on my server. I don't know why. I like to always use the newest and most up to date version for my site. I know the 1.x series is still being updated, but what's the difference between 1.x and 2.x and 2.2.x?
I think I may want to use 2.2.x but don't want to use compatibility etc.
My sites only use 301 redirects, modrewrite, and http hosts [url]to [url]-
if I upgrade to 2.2.x, will my sites break?
Apache/2.0.63 Or 2.2.10?
Nov 29, 2008Just took control of a fresh server which has been setup with Apache/2.0.63 with red hat and cpanel. Is there any reason not to use apache 2.2.10? I have a feeling when i question the version they will say its the most stable version they are happy with. What would be the benefits/negatives for the current version?
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Jul 17, 2008rebuilding easy apache using SSH?
I'm still stuck with Ioncube problems, got [url]and you'll see what problem im having.
What Is Apache Doing
Oct 25, 2008Is it possible to see what apache's doing in more details than using:
apachtop
mpstat
sar
ps -eo pcpu,pid,user,args | sort -k 1 -r | head -10
Everynow and then I'm seeing one of it's processes climb to 100% CPU and I'd like to know what's behind it?
Php 4/5 And Apache 2
Mar 8, 2008I would like to compile apache 2.2 with php 4.4.8 and fastcgi, plus phpsuexec support.
Is this a stable option or not?
I would also like to do the same, but with php 5 as well simultaneously on another server.
My question is how would a clients script know what to use, php4 or php5 on the same box?
Also, when is MPM Prefork recommended?
Apache SSL
Aug 11, 2008form last three days my server stopped responding and after restarting everything becomes normal. I am using Plesk 8.4. I found the following SSL error in /var/log/httpd/error_log
[root@kkj1 conf.d]# tail -f /var/log/httpd/error_log
[Mon Aug 11 15:18:35 2008] [warn] Init: SSL server IP/port conflict: doamin.com:443 (/var/www/vhosts/doamin.com/conf/httpd.include:12) vs doamin1.com:443 (/var/www/vhosts/domain1.com/conf/httpd.include:12)
[Mon Aug 11 15:18:35 2008] [warn] Init: SSL server IP/port conflict: default-79-125-179-18:443 (/etc/httpd/conf.d/zz010_psa_httpd.conf:84) vs. domain1.com:443 (/var/www/vhosts/domain1.com/conf/httpd.include:12)
[Mon Aug 11 15:18:35 2008] [warn] Init: You should not use name-based virtual hosts in conjunction with SSL!
[Mon Aug 11 15:18:35 2008] [notice] Apache/2.2.3 (CentOS) configured -- resuming normal operations
I am unable to understand this problem. Because of this error server suddenly stopped working (Even I cannot ping to the server) and if i stopped Apachi everything becomes normal.
Apache 2.2 Or Apache 1.3x
Mar 3, 2008I am running WHM on apache 2.2 and my server management team is forcing me to downgrade to apache 1.3x
They say that cPanel does not recommend apache 2.
Apache 1.x Or Apache 2.2.x
Feb 3, 2008which is better to use, apache 1 or apache 2.2?
And what is your reason of your choice?
Apache Use 100% Of Ram
Jun 10, 2007i have a problem with my server on RHEL and cpanel 11 apache is using 100% of ram and the load go up till 100 checking the error log i have found:
child process 7204 still did not exit
could not make child process 21840 exit, attempting to continue anyway
these are my setting:
Timeout 60
KeepAlive On
MaxKeepAliveRequests 64
KeepAliveTimeout 3
MinSpareServers 16
MaxSpareServers 32
StartServers 15
MaxClients 256
Apache Keeps Going Down
Nov 6, 2008my apache keeps going down every 10 or 15 minutes it's bothering me too much what i can say is the site like site.com stop running but if i opened the site.com/cpanel its working and also whm is working and when i make restart to the apache through the whm everything back to normal
my sys info
apache 2.2.10
CENTOS Enterprise 5.2
Processor Information
Processor #1 Vendor: GenuineIntel
Processor #1 Name: Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU E1200 @ 1.60GHz
Processor #1 speed: 1596.108 MHz
Processor #1 cache size: 512 KB
Processor #2 Vendor: GenuineIntel
Processor #2 Name: Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU E1200 @ 1.60GHz
Processor #2 speed: 1596.108 MHz
Processor #2 cache size: 512 KB
Memory Information
Memory for crash kernel (0x0 to 0x0) notwithin permissible range
Memory: 1023556k/1038848k available (2096k kernel code, 14580k reserved, 877k data, 228k init, 121344k highmem)
PHP+Apache
May 2, 2007Perhaps one of you could enlighten me as to what I've done wrong.
When I try to access the server [url]or [url] it downloads the source to index.php as x-httpd-php. This should not happen.
When I try to access the server [url] or [url]it executes the script and works fine.