How Important Is The Data Center To Choosing A Host?
May 6, 2008
From testing, I've come to the conclusion that I get extremely fast page downloads from a host in the Equinix Center in VA. I'm in Western NY. I don't know if this data center is better than most or if I just happen to be in an ideal location for their service.
I have a business that gets orders from the whole U.S., but a majority are in the East, especially the NE. Visitors come from everywhere in the U.S., but I'd like to keep the buying customers happiest.
Page download speeds are very important to me and I'd like to keep them as fast as possible for my customers. How important is the data center used by a host going to be to my decision? Also, is there a way to find webhosts from a particular data center? Manually going to webhost sites to find out if they have servers in the Equinix center has been painfully slow.
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May 29, 2008
What is a difference between Network Operation Center and Data Center?
As I understood, DC is a physical location of computers while NOC is somewhat abstract term. It means servers, routers, wires, switches and all other equipment.
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May 21, 2009
I'm wondering if you can tell me something about your experience with a host/server in a different country or overseas.
My webpage will be mostly frequented by Australians.
What do you think is the advantage and the disadvantage of having a host in your own country and having one overseas?
I'm thinking about stability, traffic speed, peak hours in different time zones, customer service, ....
What are your experiences?
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Jun 17, 2008
I am about to start a website in which I will feature lots embedded video clips from sites like youtube, toudou, etc.
I am new this, so I'm wondering how I can choose a proper web host for my site, so that people can always reliably view the videos and at decent speed. I'm not looking to spend a fortune as this is my first website.
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Jul 16, 2008
Choosing the right host is a very important decision. I've compiled a short list of do's and don't when it comes to web hosting.
1) UNLIMITED features. Rarely trust companies that offer unlimited space/bandwidth etc. as this is blatant overselling. When was the last time you saw an unlimited hard drive?! Companies that offer unlimited hosting features may not be around long and their other services tend to suffer - e.g. support.
2) Free hosting. Be wary of free hosts, particularly ones that seem to be giving far too good a deal to you - they probably are. The Webmaster-talk forums are regularly spammed with free hosting, and one that keeps cropping up is called ********.com. I urge you to ignore this as a highly reputable hosts do not spam forums!
3) Your ACTUAL needs. You might be excited by hosts that offer 5GB of storage space and 1000GB (1TB) of bandwidth for very low prices, but you should at the very least be wary of such companies. Besides the con issue, ask yourself - do you even need such large resources? For most small companies and individuals starting up, a maximum of 500MB web storage space and roughly 5GB bandwidth will be adequate. Once your site is up and running, you will be able to see whether you do need more or not and if necessary, you can upgrade. Some hosts (hostmonster.com being an example) seem to offer incredible packages for very low amounts of money. However, companies like this are often unreliable and may end up throwing you off their server if you start using these extreme amounts of resources. See tip no. 5 for solution.
4) Do your research. It's very important to do adequate resource on whichever host you choose: don't just take their word for everything. Check what the technology experts are saying on the issue (e.g. look through reputable technology magazines for reviews). BE CAREFUL WHEN SEARCHING REVIEW SITES - THEY USUALLY EARN COMMISSION FOR EACH SIGNUP SO WILL PUSH THE HIGHEST BIDDING HOST!! While it sounds infantile, type queries like "..... .com sucks" and also search through their own support forums (assuming they have them) to see how quickly issues are resolved. Try contacting their support or sales departments with questions to get a good perspective of their response times. Remember, if their sales department take a while before they have your custom, imagine how long they may take when they do have your custom!
5) When your needs outweight most plans. If you've outgrown your current plan and you are using very large resource amounts, it may be time to think about renting out a VPS (Virtual Private Server) or a Dedicated Server. I emphasize that this will not be necessary unless you are receiving a lot of visitors (traffic) and unless you are storing a very large amount of data (e.g. hundreds of photos, movies or software downloads). VPS' are now relatively cheap and combine reliability with speed and of course more space and bandwidth. A typical entry VPS may offer you 10GB storage and 100GB bandwidth. If you have extreme needs and you are already running a very busy site, you may even contemplate renting out a Dedicated server from a hosting company. Dedicated servers are computers entirely dedicated to your own web site and are very reliable (if you choose the right host) but are overkill for the vast majority of people.
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May 1, 2007
I'm moving from shared to VPS. This forum is helpful, but I seem to notice everyone recommends the hosts that advertise here. That makes me wonder about conflict of interest.
Anyway, I'm looking for a company that has great customer service and will walk me through the first baby steps of having my own VPS for the first time. That and uptime. Everyone else seems to have the same features. So how to choose?
I called 3 hosts today: JaguarPC, LiquidWeb and Spry. Jaguar sounded okay. The sales kid at Liquid didn't seem to be able to answer any of my questions that weren't on his cheat sheet. And Spry had me on hold forever (with good music, though) and dropped my call a minute in.
Also, will they help me lock my VPS down like a fort so it's ueber secure? Will I have to install PHP, MySQL, phpMyAdmin, and all the other programs I didn't know I needed myself? I have no experience, so it would be good to know. I'm a graphic desiger turned web designer turned noob PHP developer -- I'm scared that I'm not geeky enough.
Anyway, does anyone have the same feeling that all hosts seem the same when you're shopping around? I know I'm going to have to give in, close my eyes and jump at some point (very soon). But this is no fun.
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May 5, 2009
I am in the process of finding a host for my website (as I am not very happy with the current one).
My statistics shows that most of my visitors are from Europe and Asia and not much from US.
My question is, should I think of a host in Europe or Asia?
does it actually make a lot of difference where is your host located ?
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Sep 4, 2009
I and my colleagues often times run into misunderstandings about terminology. I'd love your input on the following - please also make suggestions of terms we should be including in our list - we will be posting these to our website.
CRITICAL POWER LOAD ("CRITICAL LOAD"): The usable electrical capacity at the data center floor and server cord. Does not include any ancilary load for cooling, lighting, common areas or other equipment. VERY IMPORTANT DEFINITION. Also called IT load, data load, server load, etc..
CRITICAL COOLING LOAD: The usable cooling capacity at the data center floor. Does not include any ancilary load for lighting, common areas or other equipment.
PARASITIC LOAD: The power and cooling load for all ancilary equipment and common area operation.
RETAIL COLOCATION: Multi-tenant, turnkey data centers that offer services down to the rack or partial rack / cabinet.
WHOLESALE COLOCATION: Multi-tenant, turnkey data centers that offer services down to the PDU. Typically require commits greater than 300 KW (2000 SF approx).
SHELL DATA CENTER: A building that has been pre-qualified for power and telecom access, with or without any other improvements (i.e. four concrete walls), and amenable to data center development and use. My become a single-tenant property or colocation.
COMMISSIONABLE (WHOLESALE / RETAIL) DATA CENTER / COLOCATION: An unoccupied, fully built data center previously in operational condition but that can be brought to fully operational status with minimal improvements and via the commissioning process.
EXCHANGE COLOCATION: Multi-tenant, turnkey data centers where ISPs interconnect and that offer services down to the rack or partial rack / cabinet.
CARRIER NEUTRAL COLOCATION: Multi-tenant, turnkey data centers that are unaffiliated with a network service provider.
NETWORK SERVICE PROVIDER (NSP) COLOCATION: Multi-tenant, turnkey data centers that are affiliated with a network service provider.
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Sep 4, 2009
I am wondering which is the best data Center to get allow ping from both sites, europe and the USA. For now I am searching for an Data Center at the US East Cost but I am not sure which is the best, therefore I would like to here your opinion on this.
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Oct 31, 2009
I am planing on building a small data center either in Waterloo, Ontario or in the surrounding area of Toronto, Ontario.
My questions:
1.) Is Waterloo a good area to build a data center? I know its a technology area but I havent seen much data centers from the area. And are there any bandwidth providers in the area?
2.) Anyone know a good place in the surrounding area of Toronto ontario where fiber lines will be easy to bring in? Mostly looking for something on the edge of the city, planing of purchasing my own land and a place where it will be easy to expand. Right now looking Bolton area or Brampton
3.) What bandwidth providers can be found in these areas? Need someone who can offer bandwidth for cheap like the do in the states so I can offer my customers cheap bandwidth also.
4.) If I open a data center in Waterloo ontario do you guys think there will be a good demand for colocation there?
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Aug 6, 2009
Would a consumer Gigabit switch work in the DC for sharing a connection with like 2-3 servers?
Obviously, I am not looking for features like bandwidth control and other pluses from enterprise switches....
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May 23, 2008
Anyone know of any re-sellers out of the SBC/ATT data center in Irvine?
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May 23, 2008
I'm going to order a server there, but I was wondering which data center is the best?
My visitors are mainly from US and Europe.
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Feb 18, 2008
any recommendations on UK Data Center?
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Feb 2, 2008
During my minutes of boredom the other day, I spoke to a person from Open Pipe solutions LTD regarding a Data Center network. I wasn't interested I just wanted to know really. I was quoted the following:
20 Static IPs (Upgradeable)
15TB Premium Bandwidth
Up to 100mbps Speeds
Custom network name
£32,000 setup fee ($64,000)
£2,000 per month ($4,000)
Then you have buildings, servers, rack products & other necessities on top. Very expensive!
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Oct 21, 2008
which datacenter is the cheapest on US for dedicated server. Could you write 2 or 3 datacenter fot choose. we don't need managed service.
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Mar 4, 2008
we are currently in need of someone who has had experience with Data Center build-outs. We are located in Northern California so someone in that area would be great. Does anyone here have any recommendations for someone they know or have worked with?
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Aug 31, 2007
We're expanding our project and looking to organize one more data center in US. We would like to get 3Racks with 40A of power each,
500Mbps 95% traffic.
The best would be Carrier Neutral facility with good traffic offerings selection.
We could benefit of 2 types of traffic - inexpensive traffic for serving large files and low latency traffic for web/ajax applications.
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Nov 9, 2007
There is a data center in an office building I manage. I need to lease rack space and the data center manager wants the job. They have made the following proposal:
1 to 4 racks priced at $350 each
5 to 9 racks priced at $300 each
10 to 19 racks priced at $250 each
20 and above priced at $200 each
the management fee is included in above pricing
I do not know the industry standard for leasing commissions but more or less 50% seems high. What do you think? Whatis a fair deal for all?
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Jun 16, 2008
Just wanted to get everyone's ideas on something. The web development company I work for is actively seeking business throughout the world. All of our applications are currently hosted on servers in the north west UK and London.
It may work out that we pickup some business in South America, South Africa and Asia.
A lot of people in our company are saying that it will need to be hosted near to our clients for speed issues as if we try and host the websites and backend applications from the UK they will be too slow. Surely the point of the internet is that it doesnt matter where the stuff is hosted. Colleagues are saying that if we are trying to administer servers on the other side of the world the poor connections will mean we will struglle.
In some of the countries the infrastructure must be pretty advanced. London has huge POP on the net and surely this will help.
Hosting stuff for clients based in South America isnt too bad as I think we would be ok hosting stuff in America. Likewise I'm sure there are similarly developed countries in Asia will be able to provide hosting. Not too sure about South Africa.
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Apr 20, 2008
SOFT LAYERS data center did not fulfill its legal obligations with regards to the protection against hackers. I complained to SOFT LAYERS against the server hosting the Hackers sites two times and although they shut them down they keep coming back. They don't reply to my messages. These hackers are causing a lot of damage, what can I do to shut them down permanently. Please advice, SOFT LAYERS only talk to these guys to ask them to remove the hacking contents but they never do and SL don't bother to check on the.
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Jul 7, 2008
I'm thinking of using a host in Canada for an E-Commerce store targeting USA customers. Does this matter?
Would I get a little more "love" from search engines if the site was hosted in the USA?
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May 26, 2008
how many commerical D/C there, and how many private-owned D/C there,
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May 7, 2008
We are planing to setup a 3 tier datacenter in a space of 30000sft.
Now what will be the cost per sft.
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May 6, 2008
Can anyone recommend a good data center in the Washington, DC area for colocation.
Please share any positive or negative experiences.
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Feb 27, 2008
What is the best data center to rent a server from? I don't need a managed server I can admin and secure it remotely.
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Jul 8, 2008
I was wondering what people in Australia use with regards to data centers. Do you go local in Australia or are overseas data centers just as good, with regards to speed?
If local what do you guys use?
If overseas, where do you get the fastest bandwidth to Australia, etc.
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Mar 29, 2007
we have come to a point where we would like to operate our own data center and move on from doing collocation.
Could anyone that have any experience in setting up their own data center help me out in terms of what kind of equipment needed?
From my qucik research, I would be needing the following:
1. Air Conditioning System - I am thinking of using Liebert System 3
2. UPS System, still not sure what type that suits our needs
3. Diesel Generators, still not sue what type that suits our needs
The server room would be roughly 1,200 square feet. How many Liebert System 3 would I need, how many tons, chilled water or compressors? We have roughly 200 servers at the moment, but would like to accomodate the room to up to 1,000 servers.
What kind of UPS system would you recommend us using?
What kind of Diesel Generators would you recommend us using?
How much is the total cost - roughly to fund this setup?
Are there other main points that I missed besides, AC, UPS, and Diesel Generatros? I mean aside security, network equipments itself, etc. The main basic things.
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Mar 16, 2007
Does anyone own/operate or work at a datacenter in Southern California (Riverside County). I am looking for a place to possibly colo at and even work at, I just havent found any Southern California Data Centers besides La and San Diego, and I do not really want to drive to either. Also if anyone has wanted to start one in that area but hasnt found a partner, let me know, I may be interested in getting in on a deal with someone.
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Aug 28, 2007
I found this interesting article: [url]
It shows Chicago as the greenest city for a data center, which absolutely surprised me even considering I'm in Chicago. Overall, I thought the article was interesting and gave a different view on things. I figured at least someone else here would be interested in the article.
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Feb 12, 2009
I am in the UK, all my users are in the UK.
How crazy would it be to get a web host in another country?
I like the look of an American company.
There are plenty in the UK, but they don't tick as many boxes.
What would difference in speed be? (approximately)
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