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FDC Denver Vs Chicago


If you were going to colocate with FDC would you choose Chicago or Denver? Which is going to have a better network and support?


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(*) Sure not a problem, please contact me within these hours...

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(*) They just got their shipment in and everything will be setup by the end of the day.

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Dear Mr,

Please investigate the incident described in the following partial log,
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Info---------------------------------------------------------------------
Timezone: GMT -2:00

The port in question was 10000 - registered in IANA[2] for: Network Data
Management Protocol

The e-mail contact it was gotten by the following consultation:
whois -h whois.lacnic.net 66.90.101.xxx
Whois-----------------------------------------------------------------------

% Joint Whois - whois.lacnic.net
% This server accepts single ASN, IPv4 or IPv6 queries

OrgName: FDC Servers.net, LLC
OrgID: FDCSE
Address: 141 West Jackson Blvd, Suite 1135
City: Chicago
StateProv: IL
PostalCode: 60604
Country: US

NetRange: 66.90.64.0 - 66.90.127.255
CIDR: 66.90.64.0/18
NetName: FDCSERVERS
NetHandle: NET-66-90-64-0-1
Parent: NET-66-0-0-0-0
NetType: Direct Allocation
Comment:
RegDate: 2003-08-18
Updated: 2004-02-26

OrgAbuseHandle: ABUSE438-ARIN
OrgAbuseName: ABUSE department
OrgAbusePhone: +1-312-913-9304
OrgAbuseEmail: abuse@fdcservers.net

OrgNOCHandle: NOC1402-ARIN
OrgNOCName: Network Operations Center
OrgNOCPhone: +1-312-913-9304
OrgNOCEmail: abuse@fdcservers.net

OrgTechHandle: PKR5-ARIN
OrgTechName: Kral, Petr
OrgTechPhone: +1-630-729-0228
OrgTechEmail: abuse@fdcservers.net

# ARIN WHOIS database, last updated 2008-01-22 19:10
# Enter ? for additional hints on searching ARIN's WHOIS database.
Logs-----------------------------------------------------------------------
Jan 22 11:51:08.961984 66.90.101.xxx.59733 > xxx.xxx.2.8.10000: S [tcp sum
ok] 1684154077:1684154077(0) win 65535 <mss 1460,nop,nop,sackOK> (ttl
117, id 47077, len 48)
Jan 22 11:51:08.962002 66.90.101.xxx.59733 > xxx.xxx.2.15.10000: S [tcp sum
ok] 2112584473:2112584473(0) win 65535 <mss 1460,nop,nop,sackOK> (ttl
116, id 54111, len 48)
Jan 22 11:51:08.962018 66.90.101.xxx.59733 > xxx.xxx.2.11.10000: S [tcp sum
ok] 784051742:784051742(0) win 65535 <mss 1460,nop,nop,sackOK> (ttl 117,
id 34960, len 48)
Jan 22 11:51:08.962043 66.90.101.xxx.59733 > xxx.xxx.2.16.10000: S [tcp sum
ok] 188686613:188686613(0) win 65535 <mss 1460,nop,nop,sackOK> (ttl 117,
id 8194, len 48)
Jan 22 11:51:08.962057 66.90.101.xxx.59733 > xxx.xxx.2.10.10000: S [tcp sum
ok] 1829533742:1829533742(0) win 65535 <mss 1460,nop,nop,sackOK> (ttl
117, id 26158, len 48)
Jan 22 11:51:08.962080 66.90.101.xxx.59733 > xxx.xxx.2.12.10000: S [tcp sum
ok] 1559560773:1559560773(0) win 65535 <mss 1460,nop,nop,sackOK> (ttl
116, id 4558, len 48)
Jan 22 11:51:08.962093 66.90.101.xxx.59733 > xxx.xxx.2.9.10000: S [tcp sum
ok] 60930635:60930635(0) win 65535 <mss 1460,nop,nop,sackOK> (ttl 117, id
551, len 48)
Jan 22 11:51:08.965238 66.90.101.xxx.59733 > xxx.xxx.2.3.10000: S [tcp sum
ok] 1935758257:1935758257(0) win 65535 <mss 1460,nop,nop,sackOK> (ttl

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Here is an email ive sent to them which will detail my issues

I have been asked to use this email to express my issues because your normal support staff are unable to deal with this request.

I began hosting with you with you about 5 days ago with the account below512MB RAM
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In the days ive hosted with you not only has there been the issue of not recieving what i actually paid for but there have been actual issues with the underlaying service.

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Ive had to send 3 support issues in regards to Cpanel licence issues.

Now the problem i am having is with the Quota's.
On the issue of RAM i was told im sharing with 4 people on my node sharing a total of just under 1GB of ram
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Currently on my account is a completly blank installation of whm with absoloutly nothing on it or setup. based on that its presumed my ram quota is 50mb! - One of your assistants told me that ram is delagated as needed on each server but aswell as being plain insufficient to carry out what you claim to be giving me as a customer. Not to forget there is no mention whatsoever of ram being *bursted* between users on the account sign up page. For you to now say its bursted is infact a breach of the trade descriptions act.

Another issue is the bandwidth now here i take a quote from your site

Q: What kind of transfer speeds and how much data transfer can I expect on the 100Mbit shared bandwidth plan ?

A: You can expect 15-30Mbit/s transfer speeds and 5TB-9TB monthly data transfer.

The average download speed when i manually installed cpanel yesterday was 11kb/s - It doesnt take a genius at all to realise that 11kb/s is clearly a speed you could expect from a 1m/bit connection not a 100m/bit connection. I understand it is shared but the claim above is not what im recieving.

Most replys that i have had from your staff end in - If the recources you recieve at the moment arnt sufficient then get a dedicated server. But the recources i am told i should have are far more sufficient than i need. You just dont provide them, if this is the best vps package then what could i expect on the lowest. What you are actually telling me was if you want to run 1, 1 paged website then the vps is not sufficient for your uses!

All i ask is that either i am given my full quota with an acceptable connection speed as promised or a full refund.

This message is send in confidence of Nick carswell, the views expressed in this communication may not be those of Nick carswell, if you recieve this copy in error please notify me immediatly and delete any copies you may have.

I will post any replies that they send me in relation to this issue, but i appear to not be the first person who has found issues with their service and delivery of service

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And the server specs are this:

CPU - Core2Quad 8300
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Does anyone know why FDC don't list the full server specs like Ghz, control panel, php support, operating system etc?

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can I use FDC DNS instead of mine own to register a domain from GoDaddy.

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My price range is $200/month where FDC fits in.

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I completely amazed on how this Company has managed to engineer their TOS & AUP in such a way that they can in essence discriminate, destroy your hardware and steal your money in the process...

The developed some type of a bias against me, and then the true colors came out. It all started with a simple argument over a Cpanel License on a VDS that I had rented from them. I decide to send my own server instead to save a few dollars and I overnight the box.

-- For support to tell me that the brand new Corsair 750Watt PS is dead. We had sealed the server with stickers to ensure that no one would open it and tamper with the hardware inside. That's the first thing they did, was to remove the stickers and pretend that they PS was dead and that they had to Trouble Shoot.

-- I get the power supply back and it was in perfect working condition, obviously after they had made a few dollars on handling the shipping.

-- I asked them my options and they then try to make me buy a PS from them. Until I ship another one in. They let that ride 2 days until I send a ticket for a reboot. Right away, ohh that PS apparently died right there and then. 4 minutes after I open the ticket asking for a reboot.

> Then I notice some type of QoS going on specifically on my IP. As I know a few others that have servers there and we verified the routes back to our local provider. My upload was about 50kbps. I inquire to get the usual "routes" cannot be controlled.
As well I would see when downloading something from my box; the speeds would startup at max out and throttle all the way down to around 50kbps and maintain. From different local points as well.

> Anyhow I decide not to complain and to pay. Thus I get 2x Internap dedicated bandwidth @ $225.00 a month + $99.00. 1x Internap per Eth interface. That is after I had already paid them $269.00 for the initial VDS as well which I never got a refund for, that was just wasted money now.

> I got to enjoy that for about 8 days. Until I asked for a reboot before I messed up accidently a ifconfig command. That's when it went again, from ohhh the box is rebooted. Took about 4 hours, three techs telling me it was beeing rebooted. Never could I connect again. Then I ask them if I they have perhaps KVM over IP so I Can take care of the problem and save them time. All of a sudden the story evolves to a dead motherboard. When I question the tech, he tells me that he swapped all parts and tested them and that the motherboard was dead. That was as well a brand new WS motherboard. Running at around 34 degrees celcius temp for the 8 days very stable without any issues.

> Of course I complained some, looked for the owner to have a discussion. Stumble on Better Business Bureau US and find that others complained there. Mentioned that in the ticket and they terminated my service; keeping of course the rest of my money; Because that too is in their AUP/TOS no refunds

Thus if I get it right, they can randomly choose people that they believe they can easily take. Or simply dislike. It's simple, break their hardware. They will have no choice to ship it back; to then fill their place with another customer because they are low on space. But still bill the first one for the rest remainder of the month, why? Because they can, it's in their well engineered TOS/AUP. So I got to use it from the 26th of last month to today but still will pay until the 26th of this month.

They are allowed to do all of the above, why because they are big now Right!

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I am having some serious speed issues with my 1Gbit server at FDC. After opening a ticket, they've simply dismissed it as a server configuration problem. However I am convinced it isn't because certain ISP's (usually universities) get good speeds, usually 700kb/sec but the vast majority of my users get between 20-50 kb/sec and it's causing a lot of complaints.

Furthermore I have other servers with FDC which are 100mbit which perform better than my 1 Gbit one. There are no server bottlenecks (CPU/RAM/HDD), since I've closely monitored them (PRTG) and they aren't even heavily utilised. So the problem is with the network at some point.

Speed Test : [url]

where abouts you are downloading from, your ISP and net connection. Wget's from servers are also welcome as are traceroutes.

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