Apache Won't Terminate Connections, We're About To Give Up!
Apr 19, 2007
I've got an older "Super Server P4" series server @ ThePlanet - it's been a great box for years. We recently upgraded php4 to php5 and did a mysql upgrade as well. Ever since, randomly, without warning, Apache stops terminating connections, so the max connections fills up, and httpd won't respond. Apache doesn't stop running, it just max's out and stops accepting new connections, so customers assume the server is "down", although email/FTP work fine.
The server never crashes, the loads stay down, but httpd just fills up and won't accept more connections. We can't increase max connections (we actually DECRESED IT), because they'll just keep piling up, never terminating, and then ultimately, it will crash the box.
My admin has worked for nearly 2 weeks trying to figure it out, and Scott (AtomicRocketTurtle) and his team have been evaluating it for about a week - it's happened 3x in 2 days ... last night, httpd quit responding for about 7+ hours and since we didn't have httpd monitoring, we never knew until the office opened this AM and I had two very angry customers. Scott suspects it may be some rogue application that triggers it that didn't affect it prior to the php5/mysql upgrades.
Both Scott and Parm, my admin, have about thrown in the towel and are recommending we retire the server and migrate to a new box.
It's older - much older .. I'm pasting specs below, RHEL3, Plesk 7.5 .. but just wonder, before retiring an old server that was RUNNING GREAT prior to the upgrade, maybe someone has seen this happen before?
If so - PLEASE LET US KNOW before I spend the $$$ on a new box.
Current box's specs:
CPU GenuineIntel, Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.80GHz
Version psa v7.5.4_build75060118.18 os_RedHat el3
OS Linux 2.4.21-47.0.1.ELsmp
RAM: 1GB, with 2GB swap
apache 1.3.31
bind 9.2.4-20.EL3
coldfusion Component was not installed
coldfusion-support 7.3-2.96.128
courier-imap 3.0.8-rhel3.build75050824.12
drweb 4.32.2-rh7_psa
drweb-qmail 4.32-rhel3.build75050824.12
frontpage 5.0.2.2634
httpd 2.0.46-61.ent
jdk 1.4.2
logrotate 3.7
mailman 2.1.5.1-25.rhel3.7
mod_perl 1.99_09-10.ent
mod_python 3.0.3-5.ent
mysql 4.1.21-2.rhel3.art
perl-Apache-ASP 2.57-rhel3.build75050824.12
php 5.0.4-13.rhel3.art
phpmyadmin 2.5.3
phppgadmin 2.4.2
postgresql 7.3.6-7
postgresql-server 7.3.18-1
proftpd 1.2.9
psa 7.5.4-rhel3.build75050824.12
psa-agent 1.3.2-2_psa7.1
psa-api-rpc 7.5.4-rhel3.build75050930.11
psa-bu 7.5.4-rhel3.build75050926.17
psa-horde 3.0.5-rhel3.build75050824.12
psa-imp 4.0.3-rhel3.build75050824.12
psa-logrotate 3.7-rhel3.build75050824.12
psa-manual-custom-skin-guide 7.5.4-rhel3.build75050824.12
psa-migration-manager 7.5.4-rhel3.build75050930.11
psa-proftpd 1.2.10-rhel3.build75050824.12
psa-qmail 1.03-rhel3.build75050824.12
psa-qmail-rblsmtpd 0.70-rhel3.build75050824.12
psa-spamassassin Component was not installed
psa-tomcat-configurator 7.5.4-rhel3.build75050824.12
psa-turba 2.0.3-rhel3.build75050926.17
qmail 1.03
rblsmtpd 0.70
samba 3.0.9-1.3E.12
spamassassin 3.1.3-1
SSHTerm 0.2.2-rhel3.build75050824.12
stunnel 4.04-4
tomcat 4.1.24-full.2jpp
webalizer 2.01_10-15.ent
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Jan 25, 2008
I keep trying to restart Apache but it wont restart... I run a command line to restart it, but nothing happens. Here is what I have tried:
Quote:
-bash-3.1# chroot /home/fatehost.net/runtime_layeredpanel/
fatehost:/# /etc/
bash: /etc/: is a directory
fatehost:/# /etc/init.d
bash: /etc/init.d: is a directory
fatehost:/# /etc/init.d/httpd-users
Usage: /etc/init.d/apache2 start|stop|restart|reload|force-reload
fatehost:/# /etc/init.d/httpd-users start
Starting web server: Apache2(98)Address already in use: make_sock: could not bind to address 205.209.135.132:80
no listening sockets available, shutting down
Unable to open logs
fatehost:/# /etc/init.d/httpd-users restart
Forcing reload of web server: Apache2httpd (pid 5955) already running
.
fatehost:/# /etc/init.d/httpd-users force-reload
Forcing reload of web server: Apache2.
fatehost:/# /etc/init.d/httpd force-reload
Forcing reload of web server: Apache2.
fatehost:/# /etc/init.d/httpd-users restart
Forcing reload of web server: Apache2httpd (pid 13475) already running
.
fatehost:/#
fatehost:/# /etc/init.d/httpd-users start
Starting web server: Apache2(98)Address already in use: make_sock: could not bind to address 205.209.135.132:80
no listening sockets available, shutting down
Unable to open logs
fatehost:/# /etc/init.d/httpd-users stop
Stopping web server: Apache2.
fatehost:/#
fatehost:/# /etc/init.d/httpd-users start
Starting web server: Apache2(98)Address already in use: make_sock: could not bind to address 205.209.135.132:80
no listening sockets available, shutting down
Unable to open logs
fatehost:/#
fatehost:/# sudo /etc/init.d/httpd-users stop
bash: sudo: command not found
fatehost:/# su root /etc/init.d/httpd-users restart
Forcing reload of web server: Apache2httpd (pid 20391) already running
.
fatehost:/# /etc/init.d/httpd-users reboot
Usage: /etc/init.d/apache2 start|stop|restart|reload|force-reload
fatehost:/# reboot
WARNING: could not determine runlevel - doing soft reboot
(it's better to use shutdown instead of reboot from the command line)
shutdown: timeout opening/writing control channel /dev/initctl
init: timeout opening/writing control channel /dev/initctl
fatehost:/# WARNING: could not determine runlevel - doing soft reboot
bash: WARNING:: command not found
fatehost:/# (it's better to use shutdown instead of reboot from the command line)
> shutdown: timeout opening/writing control channel /dev/initctl
> init: timeout opening/writing control channel /dev/initctl
>
fatehost:/# /home/fatehost.net/runtime_layeredpanel
bash: /home/fatehost.net/runtime_layeredpanel: No such file or directory
fatehost:/#
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[root@server1 ~]# service httpd start
no listening sockets available, shutting down
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apache 2.2
httpd.conf file was empty... I'm recompiling right now.
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I have WHM and Cpanel on my dedicated server. Is there a way to give them access to change this? I dont want then to have access to everything either.
Edit your httpd.conf file.
Timeout 50
KeepAlive On
MaxKeepAliveRequests 120
KeepAliveTimeout 10
MinSpareServers 10
MaxSpareServers 20
StartServers 16
MaxClients 125
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Just logged in my cPanel, and Apache Server Status shows
Parent Server Generation: 7
Server uptime: 2 hours 52 minutes 5 seconds
Total accesses: 701666 - Total Traffic: 63.7 GB
CPU Usage: u1610.22 s255.4 cu0 cs0 - 18.1% CPU load
68 requests/sec - 6.3 MB/second - 95.2 kB/request
400 requests currently being processed, 0 idle workers
I told customer service and said my website (a big forum) have 4000 people now, I felt very slow, could the slowness caused by this max apache connection setting?
I got reply: "400 seems to be as high as Apache can go. Your httpd.conf settings currently show 500 max connections enabled. If Apache is stopping at 400 then this is it's hard limit for maximum connections. Also If it was able to go even higher you would eventually run into memory issues on the server that would cause the server to crash."
Can anyone tells me if "400 requests currently being processed, 0 idle workers " is a problem or could it be the cause of the slowness. I imagin if more people request connection, and apache can't deal with that much, it has to let those request wait in the queue, therefore caused slowness or time-out.
The seem server could deal with 8000 people online before, no any problem at all and speed was quite fast. I don't know what i should do now.
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is a way to understand whats the bext max apache settings for me?
Maybe to look over httpd-status requests currently being processed and the number of idle servers or the number of strokes?
Or probably the best way is to use some benchmark application but then i am not sure how to test my config?
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Sep 24, 2007
I currently have a dedicated server with the following specs:
Celeron 2.6ghz
2gb ram
100mbit connection
the cpu load is always under 0.7, and I always have at least 400mb of free ram.
The site takes about 5-10 seconds to load a test page with just a single word on it. When I type netstat -n | grep :80 | wc -l
I get around 1100-1200 connections. I get about 130k page views per day.
My site is about 95% static html, it has about 150 images per page. How can I speed up my site?
Here are my apache httpd.conf settings:
Timeout - 100
KeepAlive - on
KeepAliveTimeout - 12
StartServers - 48
MinSpareServers - 32
MaxSpareServers - 64
MaxClients - 1500
MaxRequestsPerChild - 1000000
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Our web server encounter a problem lately, that an IP address in India repetitively sent requests that uses up all connections available in Apache. All connections appear to be in W state. The connections are not terminated by Apache even though timeout has been set to lower 30 seconds. Similarly, MySQL connections also are not dropped until Apache is restarted.
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I would like to know what is the maximum number of Apache connections a Server can handle? Does this depends on the Config of the Server? Is it Possible for a server to handle more than 2500 Active Apache connections without timeout / connection failure / slowness?
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Webserver is restarted all TCP connections randomly. we are not able to get any error into errorlog file.
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Defaults Values are:
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EnableSendfile Off
Not sure what's wrong with server.
We have installed "Apache 2.4.6-x86 server" on Win 2008 R2 Standard server (64-Bit).
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Jan 22, 2007
Many years ago (8) when I just starting html at the age of 15, I had a site hosted on Eidosnet. I have since noticed that it is still after all this time in Google listings on their server. I had assumed that after a period of inactivity the account would be removed but it would seem this is not the case.
I can't for the life of me remember the password, but form the URL that comes up in Google and the documentation on Eidosnet's site, I have figured out what my username was. I have tried accessing via ftp that webspace and the connection is refused - even before I have a change to authenticate to the server.
I emailed their support giving my username and explained the situation. I was told that their was nothing they could do and that they wouldn't remove the site or disallow robots to it unless I gave them my username and password. I don't know what the password was and even if I do take a guess it's the same one I use now (which is secure), I don't want to give it to them as I use this password for a number of things.
I explained that a tenet of security is that you don't hand out passwords and I have had no help from them whatsoever. Can anyone advise me what I can do to get this very old and pathetic looking site of mine off their servers, or at least so that it can't be crawled by search engines?
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Nov 13, 2008
I am facing to this trouble: apache max out the number of connections. When viewing status, all I get here
Code:
SrvPIDAccMCPU SSReqConnChildSlotClientVHostRequest
0-028240/6/65R 0.1414290.00.020.32 ??..reading..
1-028170/17/65R 0.111510.00.030.22 ??..reading..
2-028350/3/57R 0.20112210.00.000.24 ??..reading..
3-027570/33/62R 1.431412930.00.130.21 ??..reading..
4-026430/75/75R 2.12153190.00.310.31 ??..reading..
5-026440/52/52R 2.061610.00.240.24 ??..reading..
6-028180/13/60R 0.621600.00.070.22 ??..reading..
7-026490/63/63R 2.84143070.00.370.37 ??..reading..
8-028190/7/43R 0.271610.00.020.27 ??..reading..
9-028080/27/76R 0.361410.00.040.29 ??..reading..
10-026750/50/52R 2.9617630.00.260.26 ??..reading..
11-027720/23/49R 3.641600.00.100.19 ??..reading..
12-026620/64/64R 2.201520.00.290.29 ??..reading..
13-027730/25/64R 1.121500.00.140.19 ??..reading..
which account on server is the reason please? I am on CentOS box with DirectAdmin.
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Apr 12, 2007
any good rule to limit Apache (port 80) connections from 1 IP to 15 with iptables/csf?
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Feb 5, 2007
As you can see my apache is full of Reading connections..... they are filling up my server dening legitimate users to browse trought the websites hosted there... I think this is what is happening to me:
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Im using apache 1.3.3.7 on RHES 3 with latest patches and kernel.
930 requests currently being processed, 6 idle servers
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1-044940/40/40R 0.33340.00.060.06 ??..reading..
2-044950/55/55R 0.47330.00.110.11 ??..reading..
3-044960/35/35R 0.31330.00.050.05 ??..reading..
4-044970/38/38R 0.13210.00.090.09 ??..reading..
5-045410/40/40R 0.16360.00.130.13 ??..reading..
6-046190/28/28R 0.12110.00.030.03 ??..reading..
7-046220/34/34R 0.35320.00.100.10 ??..reading..
8-051640/34/34R 0.135100.00.300.30 ??..reading..
Also, here is the top output of the top command:
top - 12:46:21 up 10 min, 1 user, load average: 1.40, 2.03, 1.06
Tasks: 1063 total, 2 running, 1060 sleeping, 0 stopped, 1 zombie
Cpu(s): 4.9% us, 1.6% sy, 0.0% ni, 93.1% id, 0.3% wa, 0.0% hi, 0.0% si
Mem: 2073516k total, 2001984k used, 71532k free, 42384k buffers
Swap: 2048276k total, 0k used, 2048276k free, 178096k cached
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how to avoid this attack?
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I've been having trouble the past few days with someone who's been "attacking" my site so to speak by continuously downloading very large files with as many connections as (he) can open. I operate a large downloads site for computer games, this person has selected the largest files (like 400-500MB). Not sure of the real intent other than to clog up my bandwidth capacity. Also he appears to be using proxies since as soon as I ban one, another shows up seeminly from China.
Anyway, I have mod_bw and I've limited the number of connections in the downloads area to 2. While that works ok, his tool uses threads like a download manager would and he's using up 30-40 child threads for his 2 file downloads.
So 2 questions,
Is there anyway to not only limit file downloads to 2, but limit the number of connections per request? Many of my visitors do use download managers and I'd like for them to continue using them but use a reasonable number of threads like 6 or 8, but not 30.
Also, is there a way to restrict access to someone using a proxy?
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today 3ix.com logged into my ftp account and delete some files! i thought the site is hacked but the truth my site didn't hacked ! when i asked the support team to allow me to change my ftp details from the client area he said to me " Help24x7: Well, we got complaint from SpamCop against your site and we are unable to host it "
this problem was solved long time ago and spamcup register here in the forum and said to all " im sorry the report was false" ! then 3ix.com restord my account again , why they now open this old problem!
look here at the problem you will finde the full details
[url]
and here the hostcare admin said to me we are sorry the report was false ! we are going to restore your account " We just got confirmation from SpamCop that they feel the complaint was false and I have asked a 3iX Admin to restore your site, it will be live in the next 60 minutes.
Thank you for working with us to resolve the issue, don't hesitate to contact the 3iX HelpDesk if you have any further difficulties.
Regards "
[url]
im very wondering ! why they open this olde proble again! they wast my time and mak me very sad.
dose this justice?
here is also another person they treminate his account please read
[url]
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Copyright (c) 1997-2007 The PHP Group
Zend Engine v2.2.0, Copyright (c) 1998-2007 Zend Technologies
with Zend Extension Manager v1.2.2, Copyright (c) 2003-2007, by Zend Technologies
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